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No thank you :p

The longest power shortage I've had in Holland was 2,5 hours, and that was 5 years ago. Don't think I've had any problems since then.

Though you should see or train system in the winter. Complete clusterfuck.

Yea it sucks here in the winter. For whatever reason my town is the last to be serviced for outages
 

Fuchsdh

Member
Hint for America: if you lay your power lines underground, you get a lot fewer outages.

Tell that to my county. They're too busy trying to raise $100 million to put a streetcar down an already traffic-clogged street to jack up property values even more.

No matter your politics, you're an idiot if you think that one-party government ends up good for the people.
 
Hint for America: if you lay your power lines underground, you get a lot fewer outages.
Guess what? We know that. You seem perfectly willing to cover the enormous cost of modifying the electric power infrastructure across our entire nation though, so thanks for that. This is an infrastructure set up begining around the 1880's, by the way. It really is too bad Edison didn't think of that when he set about electrifying the nation, but hindsight is 20/20. So please, get your air of superiority out of here.
 

exYle

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I just realized, if we have ~15 minutes per the 50 episodes per season, then doesn't that mean we're essentially looking at a second, 12 and a half hour campaign with god knows how many cutscenes? I wonder if near the end of Season 1 there'll be a "play all" option.

Do you mean an option to play all episodes in sequence without returning to the menu?
 
Guess what? We know that. You seem perfectly willing to cover the enormous cost of modifying the electric power infrastructure across our entire nation though, so thanks for that. This is an infrastructure set up begining around the 1880's, by the way. It really is too bad Edison didn't think of that when he set about electrifying the nation, but hindsight is 20/20. So please, get your air of superiority out of here.

Hint for the rest of the world: America's land size is just short of the entire land mass of all of Europe

lol.

Just because it's a lot of work doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.
 

willow ve

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lol.

Just because it's a lot of work doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.

You quite honestly don't have any idea the cost, time, or hassle (political action, right of way, eminent domain) associated with burying the entire grid.

Following your logic we should have a manned mission to mars, a permanent colony on the moon, and Halo 4 should have visible skill ranks and campaign theater. I mean after all it's just a lot of work so it should be done.
 
lol.

Just because it's a lot of work doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.
Again, pay for it. Of course it should be done, but the U.S. is currently more than 16 trillion dollars in debt. You'd have a hard time convincing the general population that a complete restructuring of the electric power infrastructure should be top on our list of concerns right now.
 
You quite honestly don't have any idea the cost, time, or hassle (political action, right of way, eminent domain) associated with burying the entire grid.

Following your logic we should have a manned mission to mars, a permanent colony on the moon, and Halo 4 should have visible skill ranks and campaign theater. I mean after all it's just a lot of work so it should be done.

Non of those are really necessary (ranks and campaign theater are :p). However, by the amount of power shortages I read about in the US, a buried power grid would be of great use. You aren't going to tell me all those power shortages don't cost a lot of money. A lot of first world nations have buried power grids and all of them had to pay for it.
 

willow ve

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Non of those are really necessary (ranks and campaign theater are :p). However, by the amount of power shortages I read about in the US, a buried power grid would be of great use. You aren't going to tell me all those power shortages don't cost a lot of money. A lot of first world nations have buried power grids and all of them had to pay for it.

HaloGAF is moving slow today. Regardless this is the last post I'll have about this issue. See below quote for an example. What state government, or arm of the federal goverment, has the money to do this? I agree that it would be great, would rid the country of lots of electrical downtime, and would be much more aesthetically pleasing and environmentally beneficial, but it simply costs too much to just make a switch.

The problem arises when cities want to switch from existing above ground utilities to underground utilities. The rough cost is about $1 million per mile to bury it underground. To give you an idea, FPL (Florida Power & Light) has a total of 64,000 miles of distribution lines. A little over a third, 24,000, is buried underground. Therefore, if FPL had to bury everything underground they would look at a total cost of 40,000 x $1 million = $40 billion! That’s roughly $15k per customer or $9.5k if you want to split the cost amongst all customers, which needless to say is a huge amount of money. Even if you divested the cost over ten years for the consumer it would still add $79 – $125/month to their electric bill. Not many customers will opt for that, I can guarantee you that
 

heckfu

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You quite honestly don't have any idea the cost, time, or hassle (political action, right of way, eminent domain) associated with burying the entire grid.

Following your logic we should have a manned mission to mars, a permanent colony on the moon, and Halo 4 should have visible skill ranks and campaign theater. I mean after all it's just a lot of work so it should be done.
Lol I think we've finally gotten mad about everything possible here.

"Hi, I'm Willow and ill be DAMNED if some Dutch prick tells ME where to put my power lines!"
 
Lol I think we've finally gotten mad about everything possible here.

"Hi, I'm Willow and ill be DAMNED if some Dutch prick tells ME where to put my power lines!"

Hi, I'm a European prick and I'm going to tell America out of the blue to bury their entire power grid and refuse to listen to all the reasons why that's completely impractical!
 
Laughing too hard over here.

"YOU'RE TELLIN' ME WE CAN GET CABLE THROUGH THE ERF AND LEAVE THEM POLES UP FOR KIDDY RIDES?"

:lol it's all subjective.

Also, set my sensitivity to five (10 sens for life) the other night in HERLERR RERCH and rather than desperately try and sweep snipe, paced my aiming and shots during firefights, it was surprisingly effective. I also got a ridiculous blain on two guys playing a match with Munish, I'll have to get a clip of it later. Do we have any way to render stuff anymore?
 

IHaveIce

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Hi, I'm a European prick and I'm going to tell America out of the blue to bury their entire power grid and refuse to listen to all the reasons why that's completely impractical!

Out of the blue? Guys were complainig about power outages and someone said how it wouldn't occur that often.

It's not like anyone said "D'uuuh America is sooo stupid, why don't they do this and that and everything"

Heckfu said it perfectly
 
K

kittens

Unconfirmed Member
Hi, I'm a European prick and I'm going to tell America out of the blue to bury their entire power grid and refuse to listen to all the reasons why that's completely impractical!
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Gray Man

Banned
Regarding Halo 4's UI...

I wonder if any of the design decisions were influenced by metro, or "The Windows 8 Experience"
Much more of the UI seems to be based on tiles, squares, and horizontal movement as opposed to vertical, or at least what I've seen of it.
Anyone else notice this?
 
Okay, thanks! Can you link me to the spoiler thread?

Anyhoo, here are my extremely early impressions of the MP - only about 40 minutes of playtime. And for those keeping tally - I really liked Halo, absolutely loved H2 and would consider it one of my favorite games ever, was disappointed by 3, and just casually played Reach and wasn't much of a fan because of awful maps.

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I'm cutting out my SP statements from a post elsewhere, so sorry if my syntax is a little goofy:

First thing I noticed - no instruction manual or even a slip. Just a measly Gold Trial and that was it. Lame. I hate that.

Booted up the game - and man, the production values are immediately apparent. The Title Screen just oodles style, and the menu system is very slick. The loading screens have a great look, too. Also, the different modes seem to open with short little CG segments, and they really do a great job of setting up the feel of what you're jumping into.

Holy crap, what a massive graphical step up from the other Halo games. I was someone who was incredibly disappointed by Halo 3 - I felt it was just a small step up from Halo 2. Reach looked a little better, but the framerate was very dodgy. But Halo 4 really does look great. No, it's not quite the looker as Gears 3 or Killzone 3 - but you have to remember, the scale her is significantly greater. My biggest beef with the previous titles was the horrible jaggies littering the screen. Unfortuantely, they're far from completely gone, but it's a massive improvement from Reach. Furthermore, the framerate, at least early on, really holds up well in the action. It feels like a solid 30. I doubt they're hitting quite that - but as someone who finds framerates very important, this game hasn't disappointed from the get-go, at least.

That said, the textures are pretty low-res. Rocks look okay, but ground textures and "crates and boxes" are very plain and blurry up close. Also, I've noticed a very slight "pop-in" on the textures when quickly moving and looking for it - it's not Halo 2 or Rage bad - honestly, it's not bad at all; but it's there.

Multiplayer - Again, very slick menu system. I like the sequence of finding a game and jumping in. So far, I've only played three maps - but already, they seem like a giant upgrade from Reach. Multiple chokepoints, a natural flow the action, and multiple ways to tackle an enemy in any location. Also, there was always a sense of direction. I'm hopeful I didn't just get a rare taste of the good maps - I hope my first impression with all of them is this solid - as the crappy Reach maps are my biggest reason for not playing that game.

Weapons are great, and nothing has felt too overpowered this early on - but really, it's WAAAAAYYYYYY too early for me to stand by that. I can't say I've felt cheated yet, but remember, it's only been a couple games.

The sound is greatly improved. Just fyi; it's a step-up, IMO.

Everything moves faster. The pace is faster. The respawns are closer to the action. The reloads at least feel faster. The vehicles are definitely faster. This definitely feels Call of Duty-ified. Trust me, I'm the LAST person that would be excited for that - but honestly, I gotta say it works pretty well. The action feels quick. But with that said, I hope that the game doesn't lose it's deliberately slow and methodical pace - a staple of the series and the reason I so much loved Objective-type games on Halo and Halo 2.

My big concern is if MP will still have that great, teamwork Halo strategy of the games of old. Nothing was like a team working together, strategically, in a slow and decisive pace to capture a flag or arm a bomb minutes into sudden death. Having a Warhog driver at the ready - a teammate holding the clock by hiding near an objective - a couple guys giving directions from above - while others sneak in through an unwatched corner of the base - that kind of teamwork I'm desperately hopeful has not been cut in favor of a faster moving game.

EDIT: Sorry, don't have a receipt, but I can snap pics of the game from any angle if someone needs that:

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Cool stuff, thansk for the write up! Be sure to share more impressions if you think of anything.. just remember, no spoilers!

Myyke just alerted me of this happening in our games last night.

Making sweet, sweet love to the floor.

Kinky.

Hi, I'm a European prick and I'm going to tell America out of the blue to bury their entire power grid and refuse to listen to all the reasons why that's completely impractical!

lol, you do realize buried power lines would help with a lot of issues, right?
 
Wonder what the average population for Reach will be once H4 officially releases...

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You have to wonder if Bungie cares at all.

Since Skyrim managed to come out on a Friday, why didn't 343 shoot for a Wednesday release? You know, 11/7/2012? That's why they picked such an obscure date!
 

Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Hahahahaha. 'merica.



I had a sudden moment of grace this morning and fixed that bug. Do you want the updated code? Or do you want to wait until I'm done?

Don't bother. I'm not going to have power for the whole fucking week lol
 
lol, you do realize buried power lines would help with a lot of issues, right?
Look at what I wrote again. Impractical =/= undesirable.

Wonder what the average population for Reach will be once H4 officially releases...

There will still be quite a few people playing, people like me who can't afford to get H4 at launch.

I personally won't be playing Reach though, it's not worth it.
 
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