I understand that you don't like how this effects the flow of gameplay and the pace of battles, but I feel the exact same way about long range sniping weapons and camping strategies.
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I understand that you don't like how this effects the flow of gameplay and the pace of battles, but I feel the exact same way about long range sniping weapons and camping strategies.
Dude..my opposition is due the fact that half the weapons are missing from the 'pro' playlist. Due to the fact that..well i dont know. If youre cool with 3 weapons..hey..whatever. Have a good night.
Rickenslacker
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i don't know about half, but slayer pro will be more than the three weapons you can spawn with.
Pop
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Big bag of doritos gives you 12 matches...
Latvian Hitman
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According to Kevin Franklin, your three choices for primary weapons in Slayer Pro will be BR, DMR and AR.
Due to the fact that automatic rifles have a skill-gap the size of a peanut.
You can choose the AR in Slayer Pro? sigh...
Sure ..i respect your right to be into whatever you are into.. I just stated that i feel that the pro playlist is way too limited...I want more weapons. We can disagree..its cool. Hey also i never stated anything should be out of the game.
Pop
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Yeah True Skill will match you accordingly :/
At this point I'm disappointed, I never thought 343i would go the route of Bungie and scrap skill ranks. Hell Blops 2 will have a marvelous skill ranking system.
Rickenslacker
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it is not even a case of weaponry as i'm more opposed to the surrounding mechanics that the rest of the game is fluffed with (and that i'm subsequently advocating some devils here in a simultaneous discussion). i don't know what the entire weapon set of slayer pro will be, but the ones i care about will be there, as well as removing the things that seem questionable right now. you can have your infinity slayer to use the entire weapon set, experience points, doritos, loadouts, killstreaks, perks, radar, gamer fuel, etc.
I dont know about any of this. Im advocating for adversity. 3 weapons we have all played with in the previous games. Why not start with the LR and the Carbine?
Dude we don't know the whole weapon pool of Slayer Pro and the starting weapons could still be added. Maybe the LR is on the map or I don't know.
But the most appealing thing about Slayer Pro is the lack of armor abilities, different armor mods and radar.
EDIT: I ALSO WAANT COOODES
((I don't know, I honestly don't get that either. Slayer Pro as it is in Halo 4 right seems like it's in between being a bare bones playlist and being a normal one. It's not really a classic playlist either.
So once again we're splitting up the community between the things 'designed for the casuals and the 'pro' shit. This really sucks. Why even bother with armor abilites and all that shit fi you cant use it in 'competitive play'.
Rickenslacker
Banned
this is exactly what we've spent 11 ots wondering ourselves.
Moa
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Site is fucked, getting the same problem here.
And this is why COD has owned halo since cod4
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Uh, no. This is akin to hardcore mode and other shit like search and destroy.
The sky isn't falling.
Orochinagis
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Come on man. Not the same. Search and destroy didnt hinder basic game mechanics in cod.
xxjuicesxx
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I dunno. I think by decreasing the number of weapons it becomes harder to be better than others. This creates a competitive environment. The thing thats brilliant is the things they do add have such a large gap in skill that there is a huge drive to get better and better.
Now don't think pros cant adapt cause traditionally, they can go into any playlist and wreck kids just as hard.
The problem with a lot of other weapons is these MLG teams have such great teamwork every long range weapon becomes overpowered because they set up crossfire. Where one enemy steps somewhere and they get hit instantly from two people sometimes more. This means a weapon like a plasma rifle is useless because it doesn't hit instantly and has no distance, so eventually it gets ignored and removed.
Now think of the carbine...its pretty much the DMR. Theres maybe a slight difference here and there but its really just a counterweapon for the campaign. Its unneccessary if you just give everyone the original weapon its meant to counter. Its a superfluous unneeded gun.
Pop
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I bought the big Doritos Jacked bags with the promo for H4 on the front.
Yes. Nobody is saying it's not a logical step to cater more to the casual player, that's what sells you copies. Competitive play scares off a lot of people so it makes sense to make the game more accessible to new and bad players. But often this will lower the overall skill-gap which hurts the competitive players the most.
MaximumFlipFlop
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Is the stream still going?
Orochinagis
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neoism
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its has to have chief on the lower left corner of the bag....
I'd assume they mean that each "option" in player ordnance has a percentage chance of dropping.
For example:
Binary Rifle (5%)
Sniper Rifle (15%)
Needler (10%)
Rocker Launcher (15%)
etc.
Each time you got a PO, you would have a 5% chance that it was the Binary Rifle.
I would assume that each of the three slots has a set number of options that can drop so there won't be duplicates.
squidhands
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I believe you can edit these percentages and weapons for custom games too, so you could always have it be rockets, or sniper, or overshield, etc.
Why's that?
Ah, I see, thanks. When I saw the Binary Rifle drop in the BTB video I thought it had to be based on a skill-metric.
Haha..
Kibbles
Member
I kept my pre-order so I can sell it to make up for my purchase of the standard edition, get the Map Pack Pass, and have some extra money left over, since it seems to be selling at a nice price.
So iirc, everyone who plays within the first 2 weeks you will have the same 6 specializations as the LE?
Hah, it would be more likely to be based around a mario kart system; people in the back get the good shit.
But no, it's based on percentages and a random number, and yes, you can edit the percentages for custom games.
Halo players are scrambling for explanations as to why Halo is losing players; "splitting the player base" is just another lame excuse in a long line of lame excuses that avoid the actual issue.
squidhands
Member
That's what I've heard, but you still have to get to level 50 before you can even re-enlist for a specialization, so I don't know what good it does to have them early. There's gotta be something I'm missing.
K
kittens
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Haha, you guys are still going strong over here. I'm going to try to stick it out in the Halo 4 OT. Feeling masochistic.
Wifiplayer13
Member
Just got power back after nearly 48 hours. What'd I miss?
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Exactly. How do "pros" deal with with care packages, perks, etc. in CoD? I think the competitive community should embrace Halo changes, not ask for stripped down playlists.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I had assumed in my mind you linked to the "actual" OT and thought "awww, he should have linked to kylej's".
Forgive my foolish assumption, well done.
By it not being a big part of the competitive scene? Although clearly Treyarch are hoping to change that.
If, hypothetically, you reached level 50 day one, you would only have two choices of specializations to enlist in, out of the eight total that exist. The rest will be unlocked over time after release. If you have the LE you can choose any of the 8 whenever you want, without having to wait for them to be made available to the general public.
Wifiplayer13
Member
Lol. That was pretty funny. "...the UNSC can't store information longer than my Link to the Past SNES cart."
What bothers me is that there are so many other ways to appeal to the casuals without hurting the competitive merit of the game, yet they are often not utilized effectively if at all in Halo's case.
There's a myth that seems to be going around: a game that is too competitive won't be popular. It's funny how none of these people that spout this can explain why the #1 PC game right now is League of Legends. LoL's number one priority is competitive balance; they are constantly releasing updates to balance the game. They grab the attention of the casual audience by their free-to-play business model, unlockable characters & skins, spectator mode, an unranked mode, and most of all -- a game that is fun because of how well balanced it is.
Let's also not forget the insane popularity of StarCraft & CounterStrike in the past. Both those games sold a ton.
Most people enjoy competitively balanced games because they are fair and lack frustrating, BS moments.
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