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[ElRenoRaven]

Halo either does too much, or not enough. It either sticks the formula, or strays a bit too far from it. I read this so many times in reviews today. Such a lose lose situation.

It really is. That's one reason I don't envy 343 at all. They were damned if they did and damned if they didn't. To take someone else's creation and then make it your own is almost impossible. I may not like everything I've seen. For me it's probably going to end up a 7 or so overall. Which isn't bad on my scale mind you. In spite of that I do however give 343 props for doing what they've done and I'm buying it.

 

[The P of Poland]

And if I'm reading this right, the guy actually had the balls to compare Halo's enemy variety unfavorably to CoD's.
It's like a parody.

 

[orznge]

These are the fans that 343 is shooting for though. The guys who think that CoD multiplayer is more "advanced" and the "future" of shooters. If they're willing to incorporate sprint, loadouts, unlocks, and perks, why shouldn't casuals expect them to add in iron-sights as well.




How can you say that when Halo his borrowed practically every major feature from Call of Duty except iron sights? Iron sights is one of the least egregious thing they could have taken from CoD.

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[Gr1mLock]

That review was so lame. His thoughts warrant something closer to a 5 or a 6 score, instead he was a rebel and went an ENTIRE point below the average for the game. He must be a guy who'd drink milk one day after the expiration date.

 

[Aggrotek]

That review was so lame. His thoughts warrant something closer to a 5 or a 6 score, instead he was a rebel and went an ENTIRE point below the average for the game. He must be a guy who'd drink milk one day after the expiration date.

But the expiration dates are just guidelines for the retailers... the date it'll go bad is usually a week or longer after the date printed.

 

[Beckx]

Halo either does too much, or not enough. It either sticks the formula, or strays a bit too far from it. I read this so many times in reviews today. Such a lose lose situation.

Why drive yourself crazy with reviews? This is an industry that's convinced people that "9.8" (or 7.2 or 4.5) is something reachable in a subjective review process of an entertainment product. To the point that they have gamers squabbling over whether tenth of point deductions were justifiable.

Also, aim down sights are from the devil. "Halo 4 is beautiful, but I can see too much of it. Please cover half my screen with a gun."

I can't tell if sarcasm or not.

Seriously. From what's quoted here this guy - forget his conclusions or his score - is a parody of every mainstream AAA game consumer. I don't want to think, I don't want to explore, life is hard, I just want to sit back and enjoy the ride.

 

[GrimBrother One]

He must be a guy who'd drink milk one day after the expiration date.

WHAT A BOSS!!!

 

[The P of Poland]

But the expiration dates are just guidelines for the retailers... the date it'll go bad is usually a week or longer after the date printed.

This just makes his point even more- the reviewer is that much more of an idiot.

 

[Lunchbox]

That review was so lame. His thoughts warrant something closer to a 5 or a 6 score, instead he was a rebel and went an ENTIRE point below the average for the game. He must be a guy who'd drink milk one day after the expiration date.

i wanted to see 10s across the board so i couldve spit at bungie
or 4s/5s so i can go back to them and get beat like an abused wife aka play reach

this 9s/8s crap is boring

 

[Genesis Knight]

Why drive yourself crazy with reviews? This is an industry that's convinced people that "9.8" (or 7.2 or 4.5) is something reachable in a subjective review process of an entertainment product. To the point that they have gamers squabbling over whether tenth of point deductions were justifiable.

Also, aim down sights are from the devil. "Halo 4 is beautiful, but I can see too much of it. Please cover half my screen with a gun."

I love it when people say they'd be more accurate with ADS. Hahaha.

 

[Aggrotek]

This just makes his point even more- the reviewer is that much more of an idiot.

It was more or less a bad joke... I suck.

 

[Korosenai]

That guy in the machinima stream is soooo annoying now

"flood dick lol"
"make a flood dick lol"
"lol flood lol dick lol"
"flooood diiiiick"

 

[Omni]

No bulletin today?

 

[Gr1mLock]

It was more or less a bad joke... I suck.

Hey i got it. However lately my milk has been going bad pretty much on the date if not a day before.

 

[MaximumFlipFlop]

Why drive yourself crazy with reviews? This is an industry that's convinced people that "9.8" (or 7.2 or 4.5) is something reachable in a subjective review process of an entertainment product. To the point that they have gamers squabbling over whether tenth of point deductions were justifiable.

Also, aim down sights are from the devil. "Halo 4 is beautiful, but I can see too much of it. Please cover half my screen with a gun."

Oh believe me, reviews have so little say in my purchases these days. I tend to use them as rough guidelines. I left the review thread due to people bitching about Edge giving the game an 8. I don't care about numbers or scores, but I do love reading reviews. My main problems with the reviews I read today, whether good or bad, was that so many expect Halo to become something it simply is not. They expect it to adopt everything from the modern FPS. The day Halo does that, is the day Halo stops being Halo. Reviewers that can't see past that simply have a very skewed view on gaming.

 

[xxjuicesxx]

That didact symbol just looks like a No Grenades Allowed symbol. Looks so dumb.

 

[willow ve]

No bulletin today?

No bulletin forever. They're too busy trying to moderate the Waypoint forums (which pretty much burned to the ground when the live stream confirmed no visible ranks).

 

[CreateNowSleepLater]

Sort of OT, does anyone know how sites like theHaloCouncil produce these video streams displaying everyone at once like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaB8Mi_RUsQ&list=UUdnbmtBwMzOjYVG6SsLIq-g&index=8&feature=plcp

I have side project unrelated and would love to be able to do something like this.

 

[Aggrotek]

Hey i got it. However lately my milk has been going bad pretty much on the date if not a day before.

Damn the pasteurization process!

 

[The P of Poland]

It was more or less a bad joke... I suck.

It's okay, man, you don't suck. We're here for you.

But yeah, it was a bad joke.

 

[Gr1mLock]

Damn the pasteurization process!

I give it a 7.1

 

[Aggrotek]

I give it a 7.1

Should have had ADS.




Ok, that's enough with my stupid humor. Bed time. Wake up to FUD. Will be good.

 

[Fuchsdh]

Halo either does too much, or not enough. It either sticks the formula, or strays a bit too far from it. I read this so many times in reviews today. Such a lose lose situation.

Pretty much. That's why I ignore reviews for sequels, simple as that.

EDIT: That review is hilarious. The environments are too large (despite other reviewers saying they were small like Halo 2), and iron sights are necessary for an FPS?

 

[Blueblur1]

No bulletin forever. They're too busy trying to moderate the Waypoint forums (which pretty much burned to the ground when the live stream confirmed no visible ranks).

You've got to be kidding. That sounds hilarious. :lol

 

[The P of Poland]

No bulletin forever. They're too busy trying to moderate the Waypoint forums (which pretty much burned to the ground when the live stream confirmed no visible ranks).

I'm almost certain we were supposed to have one tonight.

Why on earth were they taking questions for this weeks bulletin otherwise?

 

[Genesis Knight]

No bulletin forever. They're too busy trying to moderate the Waypoint forums (which pretty much burned to the ground when the live stream confirmed no visible ranks).

Hahah, oh geez I'm laughing so hard right now. Love the way you put that.

 

[Booshka]

Why so low? Ethics ya know.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

No bulletin forever. They're too busy trying to moderate the Waypoint forums (which pretty much burned to the ground when the live stream confirmed no visible ranks).

Just went to Waypoint, first three un-sticky topics about ranks

Can't make this shit up

 

[daedalius]

Really? dog-tired conventions, like no ADS?

ffs.

 

[GodfatherX]

not that I cant accept a bad review for Halo 4, but this EGM review is all over the place and seems written by somebody that had his opinion on what the game would be before he even picked up the sticks. Comparing it's story to BLOPS and Far Cry? if thats considered the pinnacle of modern FPS story telling then I'm glad that Halo 4 "feels as empty and uninspired as its strong, silent protagonist".

 

[FyreWulff]

Really? dog-tired conventions, like no ADS?

ffs.

People don't honestly understand that ironsights has game design implications. They think it should just be there. They don't understand the why, they just want it there. And it's funny when Halo is referred to being stuck in it's old ways when the mechanics behind Ironsight in first person shooters is older than Halo.

 

[Tashi]

not that I cant accept a bad review for Halo 4, but this EGM review is all over the place and seems written by somebody that had his opinion on what the game would be before he even picked up the sticks. Comparing it's story to BLOPS and Far Cry? if thats considered the pinnacle of modern FPS story telling then I'm glad that Halo 4 "feels as empty and uninspired as its strong, silent protagonist".

So basically the people shitting on this review are pretentious Half Life fans?

Spoiler

I'M JOKING. IT'S A JOKE. CALM DOWN EVERYONE

 

[Genesis Knight]

People don't honestly understand that ironsights has game design implications. They think it should just be there. They don't understand the why, they just want it there. And it's funny when Halo is referred to being stuck in it's old ways when the mechanics behind Ironsight in first person shooters is older than Halo.

Talking about Doom/Wolf3D's center-anchored guns or something else? Because that's not really the same as ADS.

 

[Demoncarnotaur]

No bulletin forever. They're too busy trying to moderate the Waypoint forums (which pretty much burned to the ground when the live stream confirmed no visible ranks).

:lol

I guess that means more than 1% care? I really am surprised they didn't bring some sort of visual rank system.. I am nowhere near a top tier player but even I enjoyed ranked MM.. sure I spent a lot of time in social slayer, but I definitely got into ranks and really wanted to see something in Halo 4.

 

[feel]

Really? dog-tired conventions, like no ADS?

ffs.

It seems like all you post is complaints about the current topics. People should be able discuss whatever they want about the games, and if stuff is being recycled there's usually a good reason for it.

 

[Arnie]

It seems like all you post is complaints about the current topics. People should be able discuss whatever they want about the games, and if stuff is being recycled there's usually a good reason for it.

Exactly. Queue my post...

I'm glad Waypoint's blowing up about ranks. I want 343 to understand just how much they under-served this particular community of Halo players who don't want the exact same bastardised experience system that's been prevalent, and thus uninspiring and overplayed, for the last half decade.

This is Halo, I don't really believe many on the multiplayer design team understand or care for that enough, personally.

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

There are about 250+ on and none will touch CTF or Dominion, really want to try them already. Top 3 playlist ATM are: IS, BTB IS, and to my surprise TS Pro.

RIP Objective

How very sad and I'm not impressed if this is a sign of things to come in matchmaking. I seriously hope the community get behind objective games more than they did with Reach.

I also hope 343i have some potential tweaks just "in the bag and ready to publish to matchmaking" rapidly so they don't lose the potential population for objective games either.

The last thing I want is for them to have their day in the sun with their settings, miss the objective mark and not updated it quickly enough so they lose the population long term. That would suck.

Fingers crossed their objective settings actually bring population back to objective, at least their playlists having CTF on its own is a solid move in the right direction.

 

[FyreWulff]

Talking about Doom/Wolf3D's center-anchored guns or something else? Because that's not really the same as ADS.

The same mechanic of slowing your movement in trade for much higher accuracy aiming exists in Goldeneye, and I believe a game before even that (a military sim). The only difference is there's blurry gun sights on your screen instead of a red crosshair. Mechanically.

It's just funny when they say the game moves slowly, then want a mechanic that slows you down. And it'd just be stupid if every single gun in Halo was 1SK, if I'm assuming they also want the autoaim-to-head popping into the sights and shooting effect.

(I'll be back to continue thisin a bit, going on a Game Fuel hunt)

 

[Computron]

WHAT? Halo 4 will not have ironsights?

WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED.

 

[Genesis Knight]

The same mechanic of slowing your movement in trade for much higher accuracy aiming exists in Goldeneye, and I believe a game before even that (a military sim). The only difference is there's blurry gun sights on your screen instead of a red crosshair. Mechanically.

Oh, ok. I haven't played much Goldeneye, so I didn't know what you were referring to.

 

[Pop]

How very sad and I'm not impressed if this is a sign of things to come in matchmaking. I seriously hope the community get behind objective games more than they did with Reach.

I also hope 343i have some potential tweaks just "in the bag and ready to publish to matchmaking" rapidly so they don't lose the potential population for objective games either.

The last thing I want is for them to have their day in the sun with their settings, miss the objective mark and not updated it quickly enough so they lose the population long term. That would suck.

Fingers crossed their objective settings actually bring population back to objective, at least their playlists having CTF on its own is a solid move in the right direction.

The better question is, What will happen when their new objective gametypes start failing in numbers? Will they remove them for classic gametypes?

Edit: The backlash on waypoint forums over skill ranks is phenomenal.

 

[Kibbles]

WHAT? Halo 4 will not have ironsights?

WHY WAS I NOT INFORMED.

PRE-ORDER CONFIRMED.


These reviews complaining about the lake of iron sights are insane.

 

[GodfatherX]

So basically the people shitting on this review are pretentious Half Life fans?

Spoiler

I'M JOKING. IT'S A JOKE. CALM DOWN EVERYONE

what the fuck tashi?

Spoiler

great montage work

THC video review spoiler free?

 

[Arnie]

Edit: The backlash on waypoint forums over skill ranks is phenomenal.

 

[Korosenai]

That new Community Evolved update was pretty cool.

 

[Genesis Knight]

I never go to official forums. Was there a huge kerfuffle over Reach not having visible skill ranking either?

 

[Barrow Roll]

I never go to official forums. Was there a huge kerfuffle over Reach not having visible skill ranking either?

Reach had Arena, its just nobody knew of its shortcomings yet.

 

[Arnie]

I never go to official forums. Was there a huge kerfuffle over Reach not having visible skill ranking either?

Bungie at least tried with the Arena, which was also a fairly unique and exciting concept. 343 don't give a shit.

 

[DeadNames]

Bungie at least tried with the Arena, which was also a fairly unique and exciting concept. 343 don't give a shit.

Hey now.

We both know that's not completely true.

 

[Fuchsdh]

That new Community Evolved update was pretty cool.

Downes is a pretty cool guy and doesn't afraid of anything. Also, he makes chili.

Hopefully a taste of things to come.