Kssio_Aug
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That Silent Majority sure loved Halo 4.
Is there a graphic about Halo CE, 2 and 3?
Not that I'm not sure Halo 4 is the less popular one, but I'd like to know how much worse it did compared to the others.
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Is there a graphic about Halo CE, 2 and 3?
Not that I'm not sure Halo 4 is the less popular one, but I'd like to know how much worse it did compared to the others.
Is Halo 5 only going to owners of MCC? If this upcoming patch doesn't get matchmaking working consistently, I am going to have a hard time convincing myself not to ask for a refund. Too many other new releases that I want to play with my limited gaming time.
343 gon be like
when they hit that button
Frankie's reaction when the patch goes live while lurking this thread.
greatnorthern
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Well if anyone wants play co-op for the last few missions of CE on Heroic over the next few days, feel free to add me: Reliable Merman
I promise to limit myself to one beer (ok, maybe two)
I promise to limit myself to one beer (ok, maybe two)
That Silent Majority sure loved Halo 4.
This graph doesn't mean shit. What am I supposed to be comparing it with? Where are the global Xbox Live numbers?
I dont remember Halo 3 having that kind of dropoff after Call of Duty 4, Uncharted, Crysis, Guitar Hero 3, and Mario Galaxy all came out within a 2 month span after.
I am sure Halo 3 was drastically affected by MW. Especially as it built in popularity.
Welfare
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StalkerUKCG
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So you think that even though people really like a game they never played it post launch because of other quality titles?
The GOTY and the end of that chart was launched more than a year post Halo 4 launch. The game lost more than 300,000 players in a 3 month period. Players than clearly never returned.
The playlist numbers for Halo 4 playlists were terrible on a fairly consistent basis with some hoppers being below 500 players regularly.
KINGofCRA5H
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Yo what up guys just checking to see how the patc-
Oh. Nevermind.
Oh. Nevermind.
therealminime
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It's not exactly the same thing but this one gives you some idea of how popular it was compared to other games, no numbers though. Halo 3 in the top three for three years.
Pretty much.
Still love the franchise, just so many shooters to play with the yearly releases of many games.
AHappyPanda
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Mmm...
People really didn't like Halo 4. Like...really did not like it.
I thought the engine was fantastic, felt great, moved great, but there was just too much other bullshit to "lessen the skill gap"
Fuck the skill gap. If I'm better than you, I'm better than you. Don't handicap me just because you don't play enough/you are not good enough.
Same goes for me, if I get my shit kicked in, well too bad for me, there's better players in the world.
Deputy Moonman
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Psh I never lose hype to play halo 1 and 2. Even with the major launch issues, nothing can diminish the love I've had of a series for over 10 years. If people move on to other games, that's their prerogative and i have no ill will. For me, I'll wait a week or even a month to play this game, especially halo 1 multiplayer, for which i've been waiting for 10 years to play on xbox live. I've tasted the goodness of hang'em high and damnation. There is no turning back or abandoning ship. I just don't think this is a game that you somehow lose hype for, unless it's a completely new experience to you. Nah nah bro classic halo for life =)
ozz ex machina
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Only cod had comparable multiplayer, and yes it did greatly effect the halo 3 population and took it off the top spot.
But that is obviously not the reason why halo 4 tanked.
Stevey
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I don't understand that at all, why is 1 at the top of the scale and 20 is at the bottom in "Unique XBL users"- what figures am I looking at?
Kssio_Aug
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Pretty terrible.
Thanks! Yeah... much worse. =o
Well, I hope MCC makes better then it. With that messed up release they sure lost some numbers already, but maybe people will keep interested in this one for longer.
I also hope that Halo 5 become a trully good game. Is that December 9 new release date confirmed?
I believe the 1 to 20 means its position as most played game in that period. The title however, is confusing.
Primethius
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Top 20 rankings. So, Halo 3 was #1 and switched with #2 occasionally.
Stevey
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Oh, I see now.
RANKING of unique users. Meaning 1 is #1 for the amount of unique users logged on.
EDIT: BEATEN LIKE A RENTED MULE
Enordash
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I suppose the first part is fair for a lot of people. I guess it's not as big of a deal to me since I don't have an interest in any of the other games releasing around it. I still think it's kinda crazy for people to give up on the game entirely because it took a week to fix (not saying you are doing this specifically). I'm not saying that I haven't been frustrated with the brokenness or I'm somehow giving them a free pass on the game being broken on day 1. I just think all the people that returned the game on day 1 were quick to react.
Primethius
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Somebody had also compiled a list of peak numbers for Halo 3 and Reach a year after launch and those were drastically higher then Halo 4's. Although I can't find them right now. I want to say Halo 3 had above 1 million peak population and Reach around 850k, where as Halo 4's numbers were abysmal.
MAX PAYMENT
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To be fair, I was initially talking about halo as a brand (Not specifically halo 4). I thought it was absurd to say that the general public has a sour opinion about the halo brand, which is entirely untrue. Halo MCC will sell well and people genuinely care about halo 5.
I know halo 4 was a misstep, but I honestly have no idea why StalkerUKG turned it from a halo brand discussion to a halo 4 discussion.
Everyone knows halo 4 was a weak multiplayer entry.
I know halo 4 was a misstep, but I honestly have no idea why StalkerUKG turned it from a halo brand discussion to a halo 4 discussion.
Everyone knows halo 4 was a weak multiplayer entry.
Streaming some Halo: CE Anniversary, first time I have played this campaign in years.
For better or worse, Legendary too.
www.twitch.tv/st1ss
For better or worse, Legendary too.
www.twitch.tv/st1ss
Shpeshal Nick
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One way 343 can "owe us" is to get the Halo 5 beta in our hands asap. I mean, its there. Its playable, plenty of people have played Halo 5 MP.
Why make us wait over a month?
Why make us wait over a month?
Primethius
Banned
It's all about the time you dedicated to a game around when it was launching. I have DA: I that I'm playing through with a a bit of GTA V on the side. I always knew I was going to do that. I have Smash and Pokemon tomorrow and I've made time for those games. Similarly, I had MCC and it was supposed to have an entire week all to itself. With the state of things now though, MCC will probably get relegated to playtime when I want to do BTB with friends instead of what I expected it to be, which was to initially hook me back into the ranked playlists like Halo 3 did back in 2007 with a bit of every other game on the side.
link1201
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Plenty of people played Halo 5. Locally. In a controlled environment.
When the issue with MCC is matchmaking and online in general, you really think that Halo 5's MP is good to go/
StalkerUKCG
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Because the last game of the Halo brand was Halo 4 and it wasn't very good and lots of people didn't like it. Halo Reach got some negative reactions due to overpowered AA's and Bloom. The Halo Multilayer pro scene was dying out. MLG had left it for dead and so had many of the big name pro's. Any vocal opinion of the game was sour in turn opinions of the future of the brand were tainted. It's a good indicator of how people feel when no one is playing the games latest entry.
AHappyPanda
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You think just because people have played Halo 5 MP LOCALLY means its ready for a wide release....after the debacle of the MCC launch....wat?
If I remember right Halo 3 was on top of the Xbox live charts for a very very long time.
Just finished up Halo CE on legendary last night and f#$% the Maw level. Terrible spawn locations for the enemies in the reactor room. If you don't just rush up into the tunnels on top, they literally spawn around the corner as fast as you can kill them, endlessly. You can be like 10 feet away from the spawn point and they keep coming, you have to actually charge through until you can see the corner they spawn in to stop it. I don't remember that shit. The worst is you have to charge in not knowing if you're going to run into a soldier or a f#$%ing popper.
All in all though, it was great playing through the whole game except that one part. How do I view my Xbox One clips online or do I have to upload them first?
All in all though, it was great playing through the whole game except that one part. How do I view my Xbox One clips online or do I have to upload them first?
MAX PAYMENT
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So you think that public opinion of halo is sour?
If Microsoft believed this, we wouldn't be seeing a MCC or Halo 5. Do you think that Halo MCC will sell poorly through the holiday and the 5 will struggle to sell when it releases?
Anyone I know that's played halo thinks it's awesome and is looking forward to halo 5 and the MCC of they haven't already picked it up. That's far from a "sour public opinion" of halo to me.
I'm really interested to see how MCC sells this holiday to see how sour public opinion really is.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
I'll let you both in on a secret. Its a free Beta. Its meant to have issues they can fix BEFORE launch.
Logically, the earlier they get it to us and give us more time with it, the less of a chance of an MCC situation happening again.
AHappyPanda
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Here's another secret...with how fucked up MCC is, I bet they take their sweet ass time with the launch of the H5 Beta. People won't care it's a beta after dealing with the MCC mess, they're gonna expect it to work. People are already upset it's taken over a week to get shit fixed in MCC (and not even completely) and they won't stand for a broken H5 Beta launch.
The new Microsoft. Agile software development.
They can always change up the playlist. This is a chance to listen to the community.
Same people say same things. Broken records.
Waiting for the patch calls for jamming out to ODST: http://youtu.be/Em6DV3y1qWc
MAX PAYMENT
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That would be awesome. They could make the Covenant legitimately scary in this format.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
MCC and Halo 5 aren't the same thing. The same way Halo 4 had no technical issues but Halo CEA on 360 did.
Seeing the pattern?
It seems the outsourced projects focusing on remasters have issues. The one project 343 were in control of had no issues (technical ones)
The issues with MCC wouldn't apply to Halo 5. Any issues with 5 will be something else entirely. Hence, the beta.
MAX PAYMENT
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Yeah. You know the covenant inside a room is a vastly superior force, but you have the element of surprise and shock and awe. I'd kill a man for this game to come into fruition.
Yes you are correct until COD4 dropped.
I believe it was Halo 2 only.
MarauderShields
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It was off and on #1 until MW2 came out.
hearsaybear
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Jeff Gerstmann's take on this on the most recent bombcast is pretty spot on.
This is and has always been Microsoft's flagship. The state they released this in is insane. I'm not saying it should have been perfect, but saying they couldn't possibly have known about the issues until the game was out in the wild is untrue. The game came in too hot, with too many people contributing disparate parts. The whole package has suffered with the matchmaking getting the worst of it. The online community has been irreparably harmed. People went back to call of duty, people moved on to literally any other game that came out in the last month.
Releasing the halo 5 beta early would only serve to fracture an already minimized community or draw people away from MCC further minimizing that community.
This is and has always been Microsoft's flagship. The state they released this in is insane. I'm not saying it should have been perfect, but saying they couldn't possibly have known about the issues until the game was out in the wild is untrue. The game came in too hot, with too many people contributing disparate parts. The whole package has suffered with the matchmaking getting the worst of it. The online community has been irreparably harmed. People went back to call of duty, people moved on to literally any other game that came out in the last month.
Releasing the halo 5 beta early would only serve to fracture an already minimized community or draw people away from MCC further minimizing that community.
AHappyPanda
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You're right, any issue with H5 would be something else. I'm just saying, they can't afford to push out another half-baked product, whether they controlled the entire workflow from start to finish or not. If we get it early and it works, great.
If it doesn't work, 343i just dug themselves even deeper; not sure why they'd even want to risk it, just make the beta last longer versus making it available early.
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