Sorry if this has been posted already but for some reason, I'm not able to get the update. I restarted my Xbone and it just gives me a prompt saying something like Syncing Data for the MCC then it goes away, anyone else have this issue or is it just that the update hasn't been sent to me yet?
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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action
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The Jackdog
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Well its not like they can stop complaining and play multiplayer.
People are pissed, and they want 343 to hear them, and they want answers.
I really don't think thats asking too much.
No one is saying "i want this games bugs, all of them, crushed, and the game working 100% properly, now".
People just want to play multiplayer. This was possible on the original xbox. I don't think anyone is being unreasonable, its been over a week now, and this patch promised to fix a number of issues, and so far it seems to of fixed barely anything.
The Jackdog
Member
You're right, they aren't gonna abandon it.
But they said this would fix it.
And they haven't given a timeline on any of the other issues.
AND this didn't fix it.
He has been on radio silence ever since
Where is he, I expect him to say something besides retweeting patch news from 343
An apology would be nice, we don't have to believe it but at least make the effort
DarthWalden
Banned
Man, disappointed... It worked pretty well for me last night. I played a couple games of H2A and was in these games in about a minute... Not ideal but definitely not broken... It's looking like maybe that was just an anomaly based on some of the testimonials here.
The game is still a blast to play when your not fighting this borked MM.
The game is still a blast to play when your not fighting this borked MM.
psychotron
Member
The single player and co-op has horrible bugs too. If everyone puts the game away and waits for a fix, it'll never come. If people aren't vocal about their dissatisfaction with a product, what incentive is there for the manufacturer to do anything? I really don't understand people that attack the rightfully angry customers, then enjoy the benefits of their complaining when things get done. Some people can only buy a game every so many months, and they have a right to enjoy a functioning product.
I'm in Virginia, on a college network (despite the great download speeds, college Internet is kind of the pits for online gaming because so many users bogs it down). Getting into matches every single time after the patch. I'm playing solo, mostly on the Halo 2 Anniversary ranked playlist, but my tests on the other playlists have also been successful.
It's a real bummer that it isn't working for everyone, but that it's starting to work better for some people gives me hope that they will continue to make marked improvements.
Twilight Gap
Member
have not enjoyed a single game of H2A so far. not sure if it's just the maps or something else but it's just so slow and boring.
The Jackdog
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On one hand I'm sure during the holidays that guy is locked away in meetings most of the day.
On the other, i think if there was a time to start being VERY vocal, its now.
If I put down 40k$ for a brand new car that is delivered non-functionning and the guy delivers it to me knowing it won't start, then I would go back to the shop and demand to fuck the shop owner's wife on the fucking roof of the car while he fixes it.
Please, ponder the importance of online for Halo, the bullshit MS has put on us with online during X1 1st year and join us in our burning hatred for being treated like pigeons.
Ajemsuhgao
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You really think that if people in this thread, or threads, on NeoGAF cut the constant complaining, that the game wouldn't get fixed? Like we're the sole source of negative feedback for 343? Please.
Ajemsuhgao
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Yeah, completely reasonable response.
Reality though? You wouldn't do shit. You'd sit and wait.
Your scenario also assumes they knew that this was going to happen. From what I remember, this isn't the case. Something went wrong after launch. Pretty sure Frankie specifically said this.
It's not like 343 was just sitting there going "Well, time is up, might as well launch it half broken because fuck our customers. Ahahaha, that'll really piss off the kids."
gamechanger87
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Got into a bunch of games at the beginning, then I downloaded MM data and it reverted back to long wait times.
343 really needs to be more up front with this. Its embarrassing.
Regarding the "potential" MS compensation, I think an MS credit of $10 for all people signing in and playing Halo in a 24 hour span next week would make some sense. There is no DLC to give away and they can track unique GTs that log in to the game. By giving out credit, they can attempt to stymie some returns while keeping the money in the system.
MS tosses around credits for XBL rewards anyway.
343 really needs to be more up front with this. Its embarrassing.
Regarding the "potential" MS compensation, I think an MS credit of $10 for all people signing in and playing Halo in a 24 hour span next week would make some sense. There is no DLC to give away and they can track unique GTs that log in to the game. By giving out credit, they can attempt to stymie some returns while keeping the money in the system.
MS tosses around credits for XBL rewards anyway.
7DollarHagane
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" time is up, launch it half broken " is the exact thing they did
What the fuck?
The Jackdog
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Yeah matchmaking server issues i can see being a surprise but the insane amount of issues in the campaigns i can't see them not knowing about.
Unless their QA team is a dog in a construction hat how do you miss campaigns simply not saving? How do you put a bunch of pomp and circumstance into multiplayer but miss parties not sticking together?
You think DL half the game as a day1 patch gave me a good impression?
343i made the decision to bring 4 games running on different engines and all their MP maps. Now they are responsible to make all that work. but a hefty Day1 patch was already asking for forgiveness.
it's called "grotesque". I'm just doing this because I can't find/understand the poster's reasons to ask for patience/forgiveness when he is, too, stucked with an unplayable game he paid 60$ for.
psychotron
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That's the kind of backwards thinking that causes things to not get done. "Well, my voice alone doesn't mean anything because I'm sure others are complaining, so I'll do nothing." Every single complaint counts, and I've absolutely seen developers do things because of what they saw on neogaf alone. You're underestimating the ability of this forum to get attention.
edit: Remember this? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=450878
PerezDeCorcho
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wat
Prinz Eugn
Member
This is above and beyond the normal few glitches, the game simply does not work at least a third of the time. The product is defective, not just disappointing. You severely underestimate how burned some people are over this game, and how many are simply casual fans who once gone are never coming back without something extra.
Returning for a refund is probably one of the better ways in the end to get this terrible trend in game development to stop, since it hits companies in a place they really care about (their wallets).
The Jackdog
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I would hate to see what happens when mcdonalds forgets your french fries.
So many aspects of the game are a complete mess there is no way they didn't know something was up.
You can't name one aspect of the game doesn't doesn't have issues. The UI has issues, MP, Parties, Split Screen, Online Co-op, SP saves .. the list goes on and on.
They knew. These people are professional software developers. There is no way that many issues were missed by the QA team. Somebody decided to release it instead of delay it. It was a short sighted decision. MS deserves 99.9% of the backlash they are getting.
He demands to screw the Hamburglar on the counter while they make him some fresh fries.
Ajemsuhgao
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I fully understand the ability and influence of GAF to change things, but there is no influence needed from "us" on something that is literally fixing a broken thing. The people complaining aren't making suggestions to better the game. It's just whining.
And in this case it isn't "I'm sure others are complaining," like I'm making an assumption. It's "Others are complaining." Waypoint, Twitter, twitch, everywhere.
There's no discussion to be had in the MCC thread on the Gaming Discussion sub-forum, because 90% of the posts boil down to shit game, I demand a refund, 343 sucks, etc.
We could be talking about the stuff that works. We could be giving impressions on campaign, cutscenes, terminals, our thoughts on the 4 games and how they'll shape Halo 5. But nope. Angry circlejerk.
I'm price sensitive. So the bigger the exchange, the bigger the threat I'm gonna go berserk if cheated.
He had no problem hyping it up the past 6 months, saying it was a gift for the Xbox community, I hope he is at least embarrassed
psychotron
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I've seen many posts where people identified a specific problem and provided pictures and videos to clarify. Yes, there are many posts of "Just fix this shit", but it comes with the territory when people have been burned, and they absolutely have. I'm pretty easy going when it comes to issues with games, but this is above and beyond. This is the crown jewel of the XBox brand, and it was treated closer to the Silent Hill Collection. Hyperbole, I know, lol.
soundscream
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I'm in NJ and have been able to connect regularly. But I do play at odd hours so I can't say if that might be a factor.
But one thing I wonder is what was 343s actual involvement in the programing of this game. Say what you will about Halo 4 but it worked. Watching the documentary about the MCC they put out a few weeks ago it looks like multiple studios were working on this. Is it a possibility that there were to many cooks in the kitchen while 343 was to busy making Halo 5 to make sure everything came together?
Ecto311
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And how many people got this game and have no idea that it is broke? Just the average dude that does not read the net for much about halo? I bet they are just hanging onto it for the time being and not sure why it doesn't work now but are seeing improvements. How many people just got it and the update and it is fine without knowing about this previous shitshow? How many are getting it from a used trade in and it is fine? I can see that it is defective to us but without the explosion online here and on Reddit and Facebook I would not really know that it is a problem just think maybe not that many people have the game and it is not filling up because of that.
This feels like the iPhones bending. It was huge online and apple claims very few have done it. Maybe once everyone gets this patch and the servers are ready for the load it will be fine - there are even posts here of people not getting the patch and still playing the game so there is a bit of fuckery there right?
Too bad they cant take it down like blizzard does every Tuesday for Warcraft and force fixes on everyone.
Ajemsuhgao
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I'm fine with people posting the issues they're encountering and useful information. That's great and can actually help. It's the repeated whining complaints that I have a problem with.
DJ Lushious
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Of course. The 15GB Day One patch sent people on GAF up in arms. Rightfully so, as it was the first big red flag of this game's launch.
It's very skewed and misinformed of you to lump GAFfers into the "angry circlejerk" category, particularly when there has been a JIRA page set up by a user to specifically track issues going on with the game.
The Jackdog
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That day 1 patch seemed to really be raw content. Reviewers had the game and it was all single player, that patch enabled multiplayer. They said before the game came out they had to do it cause the disc couldn't fit everything
Couldn't fit and the mp content wasn't done until a couple of weeks before launch.
Frustrated_Grunt
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Got fed up with Matchmaking last night and put in Advanced Warfare for the first time and got a match in 2 seconds. Felt like such a relief after what I was putting up with for the last week.
Ajemsuhgao
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Not all GAFfers, obviously. But it's very apparent that there is a good percentage of posters that are whining just to whine. And there are posters who actually have useful stuff to say.
Dougieflesh
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Everybody who plays it knows its broken. It isn't an isolated issue in the slightest.
BruceLeeRoy
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Bro you should try Destiny. Its made me appreciate that game on a whole new level.
Frustrated_Grunt
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I do have the trial downloaded, so I'll probably make time this weekend to see if the gameplay sticks for me.
BruceLeeRoy
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Gameplay is sublime, Co-op is great fun everything else.....ehhhh YMMV
Diablohead
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First game always seems to work well, playing games back to back is when problems appear again.
Ecto311
Member
Has worked fine for me for the most part. I would say 80% of the time before the patch and still working at that level or better now. If I didnt read here or reddit/facebook then I would think its just new game jitters and not even know the shit performance others are having.
SicSemperTyrannis
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Are you referring to Frankie? If so, I was rewatching the Halofest footage the other day and there was an interview with Frankie and Ayoub. When the interviewer was asking Frankie about TMCC he kind of sidestepped with his answer and said something along the lines of, "We still have a lot of work to do...". During Halofest I'm sure no one thought anything of it, but now it makes me think he absolutely knew the level of borked this game was going into gamers homes.
Yuck. Why play a terrible game just because it has good match-making? I wouldnt even say Destiny has that, since nearly all of the end-game content has zero matchmaking.
The Jackdog
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Phil Spencer, but I remember what you're talking about
Kevin Shields
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Same here. Post patch has been perfect barring a couple uneven teams...
Celebrimbor
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This game...
Finally got to play one H2A match, was pretty fun actually, only that at the end the game tells me everyone left and we won the game ( I even got the MVP achievement lol, i was the second worst in my team)
Finally got to play one H2A match, was pretty fun actually, only that at the end the game tells me everyone left and we won the game ( I even got the MVP achievement lol, i was the second worst in my team)
Not only is that metaphor completely out of whack, it sounds like you think the wife is somehow the husband's property and that's really not a healthy attitude to have.
SmokedMeat
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We're past day one. We're now past week one and the patch hasn't resolved the problems with the game.
Demanding a refund for being duped by a billion dollar corporation into buying their broken product makes the consumer a prick?! Really?? Fuck that, what about my wasted time? The wasted gas dealing with their faulty product? We were there day one and 343 and Microsoft failed to deliver on their end.
And while single player is fine for you, these are old games. I only bought the package for the multiplayer, so what good are campaigns (that were busted themselves) doing me?
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