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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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Impala26

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not really. there are probably half a dozen places online where you could set up or fill in a group in less time than it takes to find a match in MCC.

I usually got 10-15 replies in ten minutes when i would use /r/fireteams.

Point still stands that while a typical person can do this, it essentially boils down to having to do MANUAL matchmaking yourself outside of the actual game. I still can't justify why Bungie designed the game this way.
 

Naked Lunch

Member
Friends should never be split up in matchmaking. This is basic stuff here. Something is majorly wrong. Played for about 2 hours last night with 2 different friends. We managed to get into about 10 different big team battle games:

- We got split up in 9 of the 10 games. This is completely unacceptable and defeats the purpose of matchmaking.

- In every game that we saw same screen guests, they were split up. People playing on the same TV are being put on different teams.

- If you ever hit B to back out of matchmaking to re-search, it almost never finds a match. You have to go back to the dashboard and quit/relaunch the game.

- Halo CE is far more laggy and the hit dectection was far worse than before the patch. We got into about 5 Halo CE matches. You can sometimes die in CE now by just picking up a weapon. Hilarious but... Something got royally screwed up there.


Yeah, its going to be a while before this gets fixed.
 
When I was matchmaking and getting stuck on players found, the only fix for me was to close and reload the game completely, this seemed to help for a few games until it would eventually stick on players found again.
 

Impala26

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Cross-Posted from HaloGAF community thread because I'm in total agreement.

They're clearly working hard to fix it and I doubt anyone at 343 is happy this happened. They have been communicating progress, they gave us progress, but apparantley this game is buggier than was imagined. I doubt its something like "Yeah johnny just needs to rewrite some code and We'll have it fixed by monday!"

It would be nice if there was slightly more transparency. Like what this one bug was that cascaded down and rekt the entire game.

I think the studio is stretched way too thin. Maybe its pressure from MS to pump out more Halo shit but they REALLY need to tone it down. Everyone was fine with a Halo game every few years and a book here and there.

But now they got the insane package that is Halo MCC, still working on Halo 5, and that Spartan Strike Mobile game. Still churning out comics, books, and toys. Making the Halo Channel and making time consuming videos of pointless shit like map walkthroughs... Making Halo Nightfall and that other Halo movie or series or whatever spielberg is doing.

And who knows what they're working on that isn't even announced yet.
 
Halo CE feels so off to me if I'm not host. It's terrible, absolutely terrible. Sometimes you die in a mere second without ever seeing bullet hit indicators on your avatar. Other times random nades kill you even if you're full health, and worse the stupid game types spawn power weapons and power ups every fuckign second. Who thought this was a good idea???? oh and i'm sick of battle creek already. Seems like it's the only map i play in CE.

Fuck this game is so screwed up

Noticed the same problem with ce. No indication that I'm being shot with the pistol and phantom grenades with no sound killing me.
 

Enordash

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When I was matchmaking and getting stuck on players found, the only fix for me was to close and reload the game completely, this seemed to help for a few games until it would eventually stick on players found again.

Same here. This is frustrating to no end. When I'm playing with friends, most of them just quit for the night when a full game reboot is recommended.
 

Chitown B

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Halo CE feels so off to me if I'm not host. It's terrible, absolutely terrible. Sometimes you die in a mere second without ever seeing bullet hit indicators on your avatar. Other times random nades kill you even if you're full health, and worse the stupid game types spawn power weapons and power ups every fuckign second. Who thought this was a good idea???? oh and i'm sick of battle creek already. Seems like it's the only map i play in CE.

Fuck this game is so screwed up

unless you're in customs, you're not host.
 

Wereroku

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unless you're in customs, you're not host.

Have you read anything that has come out in other threads? Frankie even said that the MM uses P2P when the servers are having trouble. Many people are having P2P matches outside of custom games and it is pretty easy to tell the differences.
 

Chitown B

Member
Have you read anything that has come out in other threads? Frankie even said that the MM uses P2P when the servers are having trouble. Many people are having P2P matches outside of custom games and it is pretty easy to tell the differences.

how are you telling the difference for sure?
 
What is it with asshurt teams quitting when the other team has a significant lead? Some people have no concept of good sportsmanship and not being a sore-ass loser these days. And with the frustration of some people actually being able to get into games, you'd think they'd stay and make the most of the match for themselves, and the other team. Been a few times now where an entire team I'm playing against has just outright quit, leaving one poor sod to face an entire team alone, and vice versa. I've been on both ends of it.
 

Onikaan

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So what did this patch actually do to fix anything beyond some fancy search icons? Every problem I've had with this game is still apparent. Fed up.
 

Bgamer90

Banned
If the game's main issues aren't fixed by Black Friday then this will be more of a flop/disappointment than it already is.

Might sound crazy but I think the only appropriate way they could say "sorry" about this if the main issues still don't get fixed by Black Friday is by giving every person who bought the game in November a few free months of XBL and then making the game free to play on XBL Gold.

The latter would continue on making Halo MCC a system seller even with its terrible launch, especially when the issues get fixed obviously (well, that is if they ever do).
 

Impala26

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What is it with asshurt teams quitting when the other team has a significant lead? Some people have no concept of good sportsmanship and not being a sore-ass loser these days. And with the frustration of some people actually being able to get into games, you'd think they'd stay and make the most of the match for themselves, and the other team. Been a few times now where an entire team I'm playing against has just outright quit, leaving one poor sod to face an entire team alone, and vice versa. I've been on both ends of it.

Play all these Halo games... EXACTLY as you remember them.
 

Sanjuro

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Just ordered it. Should be here tuesday. Pretty excited i havent played halo since 3 came out!

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huh? have you seen the gameplay from H5?

The one with the super overpowered sword complete with super lunge and increased movement speed? (because that's what the sword truly needed...) Or the SMGs that are absolute death dealers? Or the one-hit kill flying ground pound?

Yeah. But hey, it'll maybe work.
 

Skele7on

Banned
My day off today I played 4 games all uneven teams and then I went on destiny.

I feel so shitty as I can't even ring myself to start playing campaign yet.

:\ please don't become battlefield...

You'll see soon enough the Beta being delayed whilst they fix issues.
 

Enordash

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The one with the super overpowered sword complete with super lunge and increased movement speed? (because that's what the sword truly needed...) Or the SMGs that are absolute death dealers? Or the one-hit kill flying ground pound?

Yeah. But hey, it'll maybe work.

This feels a bit overblown, lol, but these things aren't broken in the same sense. This beta is supposed to reveal all the unbalanced nonsense after all.
 
Has Bloodline EVER come up for someone on the H2A playlist? It hasn't come up for me once, not even in the map voting process.

Is it actually in the map listings for that? I have never seen it online either.

With the way matchmaking works right now I will now probably get 3 v 3 on that map tonight when I play.
 
This feels a bit overblown, lol, but these things aren't broken in the same sense. This beta is supposed to reveal all the unbalanced nonsense after all.

Not broken in the same sense no.

I'm just flabbergasted they need a beta to see what's unbalanced even just up to this point. I took 5 minutes watching gameplay videos and went "wow, that sword is OP as fuck." "he's killing people with SMGs in 1/2 - 3/4 clips?" "wow, that ground pound looks easy to nail"
 

Chitown B

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The one with the super overpowered sword complete with super lunge and increased movement speed? (because that's what the sword truly needed...) Or the SMGs that are absolute death dealers? Or the one-hit kill flying ground pound?

Yeah. But hey, it'll maybe work.

Sword isn't any more powerful than the regular sword. It's always been one hit and lunge. And it's Midship, which always had a sword in the middle. So.....?

I didn't see anyone using SMG's in the video I watched. DMR/BR all the way.

They are still working out the abilities, but there will always be pro settings.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Sword isn't any more powerful than the regular sword. It's always been one hit and lunge. And it's Midship, which always had a sword in the middle. So.....?

I didn't see anyone using SMG's in the video I watched. DMR/BR all the way.

They are still working out the abilities, but there will always be pro settings.


New sword has increased movement speed, had it in 4 too.
 

Mendoza

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I know that matchmaking is still shit, and the Placebo patch that they release fixed it for some, but any news on making the online co-op for campaign playable?

It's a fucking lagfest and it's inexcusable.
 
Sword isn't any more powerful than the regular sword. It's always been one hit and lunge. And it's Midship, which always had a sword in the middle. So.....?

I didn't see anyone using SMG's in the video I watched. DMR/BR all the way.

They are still working out the abilities, but there will always be pro settings.

The video I watched, the lunge very, very obviously has a much larger range and reach, it was absurd. And it had increased movement speed. The very, very last weapon in Halo that ever needed a buff was the sword, so when they take steps to buff it, it seems completely non-sensical to me. EDIT: And I don't care that it's on the map, it's that they fucking took time to make it more powerful. Who the hell thinks this is a good idea?

Watch more videos, you will see the SMGs.
 

HaleStorm

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Has Bloodline EVER come up for someone on the H2A playlist? It hasn't come up for me once, not even in the map voting process.

If you count being put into a BTB game from the H2A MM hopper, then yes, you can get stuck playing Gungoose CTF if you are in the H2a playlist.
 

Sordid

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I know that matchmaking is still shit, and the Placebo patch that they release fixed it for some, but any news on making the online co-op for campaign playable?

It's a fucking lagfest and it's inexcusable.

H2A, 3 and 4 work fine for me. CEA is super laggy with the same co-op partner though :/
 

Chitown B

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The video I watched, the lunge very, very obviously has a much larger range and reach, it was absurd. And it had increased movement speed. The very, very last weapon in Halo that ever needed a buff was the sword, so when they take steps to buff it, it seems completely non-sensical to me. EDIT: And I don't care that it's on the map, it's that they fucking took time to make it more powerful. Who the hell thinks this is a good idea?

Watch more videos, you will see the SMGs.

halfway through this and the guy is rocking it without touching an SMG. However SMG/AR have always been beasts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfRg4Oqgq94

For Midship, there's gonna be a sword. Unless maybe they take it out for pro. Honestly I don't really care. Things I've read make it seem like the sword will be used sparingly.

New sword has increased movement speed, had it in 4 too.

Alright then. I don't remember it in 4, but I didn't see it much there nor did I like 4 much.
 

Kssio_Aug

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Is there a difference between hard reset and turn the console off with energy saving mode? I heard it can help with the issue of not finding any match.
 
Has Bloodline EVER come up for someone on the H2A playlist? It hasn't come up for me once, not even in the map voting process.

Heh, nope. I have yet to play that map.

Is there a difference between hard reset and turn the console off with energy saving mode? I heard it can help with the issue of not finding any match.

I always have my console in Energy Saver if I am going to play Multiplayer and Instant On if I am playing a Single Player game. For some reason I get Open NAT with Energy Saver and Moderate with Instant On.
 

Chitown B

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Is there a difference between hard reset and turn the console off with energy saving mode? I heard it can help with the issue of not finding any match.

hard power off disconnects from all network activity and clears the cache. You'll get a fresh connection to your router if you do this.

Has Bloodline EVER come up for someone on the H2A playlist? It hasn't come up for me once, not even in the map voting process.

is it listed in the maps for that list? Seems like it would be a BTB map.
 

Mendoza

Member
H2A, 3 and 4 work fine for me. CEA is super laggy with the same co-op partner though :/

That must be the reason then, because we're starting from the first and working our way through. We've been flipping coins over facetime to determine who hosts and who lags.

Tonight I'm going to suggest we just start from 2.
 

Chitown B

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If I get a refund for my digital copy of MCC, will I lose my saved data? Forge maps, campaign data, etc?

No. Just like you wouldn't if you played on a friend's game.

But again if you're worried about that, why are you returning the game? I just don't get it. Patience, people.
 

U2NUMB

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If the game's main issues aren't fixed by Black Friday then this will be more of a flop/disappointment than it already is.

Might sound crazy but I think the only appropriate way they could say "sorry" about this if the main issues still don't get fixed by Black Friday is by giving every person who bought the game in November a few free months of XBL and then making the game free to play on XBL Gold.

Wait.. what? So I bought the game.. paid 60 bucks for it and you suggest I get one month worth of Gold added to my subscription and yet anyone else who did not buy it gets the 60 dollar game for free?

What am I missing?
 
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