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Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action

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Sir_Vival

"I don't remember PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW being a part of the Star Wars movies."
Yeah, the lack of LAN is a huge misstep. Not only is that lame on its own, but 10-20 years from now we probably won't be able to play. My friends and I still lug our OG Xboxes over to play Halo 1 and 2.
 

Gestault

Member
The lack of LAN support is a real disappointment for me. I honestly don't understand why it wasn't included. It was a big part of my enjoyment of particularly Halo 1 and 2.
 

Booshka

Member
Wait, LAN is broken too?

Remember at least one of you will need to be signed into gold. Otherwise it should function as a normal LAN. All other players can be silver/guests.

Per game. In theory, 15 cheapskates and one millionaire.

Right now it's system and it may change in the future, but it is a tiny amount of data going out, so a crappy connection and a trial account would work in theory. Even a tethered phone, potentially. I caveat all of this heavily as we're still deep in dev and all or any of it is of course subject to change.

But frankly gasoline and breaker boxes will be bigger challenges for most.

Yes, LAN, along with the rest of the game is broken. These caveats that Stinkles talks about, makes playing LAN a pain in the ass.
 

GravyButt

Member
So if one were to be getting an xbox one friday, do you think it is at all worth the gamble? Especially if the person never played any of the halo campaigns? Only played 3/4 multiplayer and loved it.
 

Booshka

Member
So if one were to be getting an xbox one friday, do you think it is at all worth the gamble? Especially if the person never played any of the halo campaigns? Only played 3/4 multiplayer and loved it.

It's worth it, play the Campaigns first, don't save and quit levels, finish them to completion, or pause and leave your Xbox running. Hopefully Matchmaking will be functioning at an acceptable level by December.
 

clav

Member
Wait, LAN is broken too?

No, matchmaking with parties is not going well.

You can still play on custom game.

edit: derp. I read that wrong. Still doesn't change about matchmaking and parties which includes split screen woes via multiplayer matchmaking.

Lone wolves are safe.
 
Just got my refund. It looks like Xbox Support has now been given the ability to refund all purchases of the Master Chief Collection:

Normally, all transactions being made are final and non-refundable but since there is still an on-going issue with the game, we can process a refund as a one-time courtesy. But I would just like to inform you that our engineers are doing their best to fix this as quickly as possible especially that it's been more than a week now.

I might buy it again when the issues are sorted but for now hopefully this sends a message.
 

GravyButt

Member
No, matchmaking with parties is not going well.

You can still play on custom game.

edit: derp. I read that wrong. Still doesn't change about matchmaking and parties which includes split screen woes via multiplayer matchmaking.

Lone wolves are safe.

When you say lone wolves are safe, theres no issues joining a game if your not in a party?!
 

chidrock

Member
When you say lone wolves are safe, theres no issues joining a game if your not in a party?!

I don't know about anyone else but I keep trying over and over to get into a game under team slayer and it takes forever. I keep getting messages of things being full, connections being lost and by the time I get into a game it loses connection when there are 7 seconds until the next match and says it's incomplete.

What sucks is that it's so great playing halo again when I get into a match, and I don't know how to give up and play another game until this is fixed...


Edit- I also had no idea about the LAN not working without live and that blows.
 

Tain

Member
I just lost hours worth of work on a H2A map in Forge. I:

- Opened a map I started two days ago
- Made changes
- Went to save, noticed only "save as" was showing
- Puzzled at "save" being gone, chose "save as"
- Not thinking, I gave it the same name and a different description.
- Spent way more time on it, "save" appeared and I used it frequently
- Quit Forge, the variant is gone. The only version that exists is the one from a few days ago. Anywhere.

I am livid right now. Where the fuck was it saving to?
 

Shin-Ra

Junior Member
Right now it's system and it may change in the future, but it is a tiny amount of data going out, so a crappy connection and a trial account would work in theory. Even a tethered phone, potentially. I caveat all of this heavily as we're still deep in dev and all or any of it is of course subject to change.

But frankly gasoline and breaker boxes will be bigger challenges for most.
Yes, LAN, along with the rest of the game is broken. These caveats that Stinkles talks about, makes playing LAN a pain in the ass.
Sounds a lot like online DRM for an offline feature to me.
 

Booshka

Member
that's only a pain in the ass if you live in an oil rig. My phone could power the LAN.

It's not your connection that is the problem, it's Microsoft's, and its ability to connect the other players to you.

That's the entire problem with having an online required LAN.
 

Oozer3993

Member
Here is your quasi-weekly reminder that most guides for getting the skulls in Halo 2 have incorrect information about how to get the IWHBYD skull. Most claim you need 7 checkpoints to get it to spawn. This is not true. Heck it was debunked just a couple months after Halo 2 came out. I'm not sure who the first person was to disprove it, but here's a post of mine from the dearly departed High Impact Halo forums:

P3TU2dL.png


There are three triggers to get the skull to spawn:

1. Play on Legendary solo (it won't spawn in co-op)
2. Load the Jackal snipers in "Sniper Alley"
3. Get lucky with a 1 in 7 random number generator

That's right. It is random whether the skull will spawn or not. If the skull is not in the room when you get there (and give it a second or two to pop up), then restart the level and try again. Reverting to your last checkpoint won't work (unless you follow this video from the great Grumpy to mess with the checkpoints) since the random number generator has already been run. You need to restart the level to get it to run again. Dying is OK. It won't ruin anything. Here's a video I made spawning it in Halo 2 Anniversary, using the same route I've used since I made that post on HIH 9 and a half years ago.
 
Yo matchmaking is a fucking mess. What the hell?

I thought the patch was supposed to fix this crap. I'm having worse luck tonight than I did before the patch (and it was basically unplayable then).

How did the game get released like this? I feel bad for 343i, since it's probable they were under Microsoft's gun to have this ready before Christmas.

This is pulling the rug out from under Halo 5 hard.
 

zma1013

Member
So during the arbiter missions, anyone think the active camo disappears way too quickly? I do not remember it being this useless. I could swear it held longer.
 

Chitown B

Member
Here is your quasi-weekly reminder that most guides for getting the skulls in Halo 2 have incorrect information about how to get the IWHBYD skull. Most claim you need 7 checkpoints to get it to spawn. This is not true. Heck it was debunked just a couple months after Halo 2 came out. I'm not sure who the first person was to disprove it, but here's a post of mine from the dearly departed High Impact Halo forums:

P3TU2dL.png


There are three triggers to get the skull to spawn:

1. Play on Legendary
2. Load the Jackal snipers in "Sniper Alley"
3. Be on the right side of a 1 in 7 random number generator

That's right. It is random whether the skull will spawn or not. If the skull is not in the room when you get there (and give it a second or two to pop up), then restart the level and try again. Reverting to your last checkpoint won't work (unless you follow this video from the great Grumpy to mess with the checkpoints) since the random number generator has already been run. You need to restart the level to get it to run again. Dying is OK. It won't ruin anything. Here's a video I made spawning it in Halo 2 Anniversary, using the same route I've used since I made that post on HIH 9 and a half years ago.

Yup. Though I'd like to know how anyone figured out it's 1 in 7.
 

//ARCANUM

Member
There was a small update today, they said they were bringing Rumble H2A back for people who don't want uneven teams while the fix it.

Where did you see that? I don't see rumble in the playlists either...

Edit - okay I see on waypoint that they said that now. But I'm still not seeing it in game. Is it supposedly live?
 
I can't imagine it won't get updated again before Black Friday. Huge missed opportunity for sales and brand confidence if they can't resolve some of the MP.
 

//ARCANUM

Member
I can't imagine it won't get updated again before Black Friday. Huge missed opportunity for sales and brand confidence if they can't resolve some of the MP.

Honestly though, with media not really covering this, how well known are the issues? Does Joe Schmo public even know?
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
They need a new patch before black friday. They really do.

I just could find a match after more then 10 minutes and got stuck in the map selection btw.


Nah... Giving up for now again:
Searching... Searching... Searching...
Full session error.
Searching... Searching... Searching...
Lost connection with the host.

Sometimes it works and I find lots of matches. Sometimes it seems to be as bad as ever. And I cant see how worst ir could be. Even servers completely shut down would not be that bad imo.

Theres nothing that can be done really. I would like to say the contrary, but I am really skeptical that 343 or whoever is in charge of those patches will be able to fix that crap.
 

Oozer3993

Member
Yup. Though I'd like to know how anyone figured out it's 1 in 7.

A High Impact Halo member named Soldier of Light managed to decompile the code.

Code:
(begin
 (if (or (game_is_cooperative) (not difficulty_legendary) (not (= (random_range 0 7) 0)))
  (sleep_forever)
 )
 (sleep_until (volume_test_objects tv_e5b_main players))
 (game_save_cancel)
 (game_save)
 (sleep_until (not (game_saving 1)))
 (if (not game_reverted)
  (begin
   (set q_e5b_started 1)
   (object_create key)
   (sleep_until (and (unit_has_weapon (unit player0) objectsweaponsmultiplayerballhead_sp.weapon) (volume_test_object tv_e5b_main player0)))
   (sleep 30)
   (e5b_reset_player)
   (wake e5b_inf0_main)
   (wake e5b_resetter)
  )
 )
)
 

Kssio_Aug

Member
How the hell I kill people in Halo 3?
I can swear I shoot the hell out some guys with no effectivity at all!! They all kill me in breeze and I cant kill them even when I hit like 5 plasma rifle shots! Wtf!
 

clav

Member
Man Halo 4 just feels so out of place in this set particularly right after you finish 3 (which is amazing). Halo 4 is a technical marvel but i cannot pinpoint what exactly is missing from it.

Enemies are not fun to battle. There's only one pattern. Shoot the floating wing things. Clear out the rest.
 
Played for the first time since the patch tonight and we got 3 games in a row, Halo is saved! Well, after the third game we didn't find a game for an hour and a half. And the third game was Team Slayer on Snowbound and it had a few issues. Namely...

http://xboxclips.com/Sordid Sentinel/c028413b-44d0-42f7-af3d-c7d304a5c6a8

This is what appeared after Snowbound loaded. Why is the 360 Anniversary main menu still in the game anyway? What a shambles, I'll put it away 'till the next patch.

Edit: Also, every game was uneven and the hosts were shit. Fix those dedi's while you're fixing everything else pls 343.

Haha that's an amazing glitch.

I honestly wish it happened to me. I love that menu so much. I wish it came up in the game somewhere legitimately.
 
How the hell I kill people in Halo 3?
I can swear I shoot the hell out some guys with no effectivity at all!! They all kill me in breeze and I cant kill them even when I hit like 5 plasma rifle shots! Wtf!

The plasma rifle is very effective at dropping shields but useless after they're down.

In general covenant weapons are effective at taking down shields but not health.

Human weapons drop shields slower but kill quickly once they're down.

I'm assuming you're talking about mp.
 
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