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HaloGAF |OT: Anniversary| So fades the great harvest of our betrayal.
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Ragnarok Flames
Banned
im gonna read through fall of reach now.
ElzarTheBam
Member
That reminds me, I have all this Halo merchandise that I don't have space for; books, artbooks, comics etc.
If anyone in the Uk (from HaloGaf) wants to take take it off my hands for a good price before I put it on eBay, please PM me.
Franchise Media Manager @ 343, worked on this past tournament to.
It's Halo we've all probably played enough to where we only need 3 warm up rounds a year to be good to go lol
Onikaan
Member
You'll be fine. Doesn't take long to get back into the swing.
I'm just going to play CS:GO until launch to keep me in the competitive/strategy mind set.
Same.
Onikaan
Member
We should get some HaloGAF matches of CS:GO going to build team work lol
Depends on what game type you play.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
My MCC hype is through the roof. My Destiny hype almost entirely dissipated after the beta, but it's slowly sneaking back... Only one week to wait!
I actually miss Halo 4. Doubles and Throwdown were really fun.
So down.
SteamID: Vinftw22
edit: be forewarned, I'm so bad, havent played competitively since Source. Just re-installed yesterday!
I'm on mostly during the weekends if you and others want to play.
Just remember to shift walk, control bursts and no peaking on CT side and you're good lolSo down.
SteamID: Vinftw22
edit: be forewarned, I'm so bad, havent played competitively since Source. Just re-installed yesterday!
I'm on mostly during the weekends if you and others want to play.
Der Flatulator
Member
Oh yeah I was going to ask if two player split screen is still 60fps?
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I'm guessing they're saving Coagulation for their big Forge blowout.
I was surprised about how they really just talked about Forge in the PAX panel and didn't actually show anything. It seems like they've been pushing back Forge announcements a lot -- I wonder if they're having issues getting aspects of it working right.
Onikaan
Member
SWAT and Slayer.
It's that or suffer at the hands of Armour Lock.
I feel the changes that were made have helped me enjoy the game immensely.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
LMAO why
After exploring most of the moon, I can't wait to see what else there is. I did it when the One multiplayer wasn't working so it was just this solo journey through eerie caves systems and ruins. It actually creeped me out a bit. Though having your friends around to t-bag corpses will probably take a bit out of that.
Are there any RvB related events before launch? I'm still hoping for them to reveal it.
The Librarian
Banned
Tashi, you did a great job over there. Thanks for helping out with the tournament!
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I mean, Halo 4 wasn't all that bad. I really loved how the ordnance system gave new players and veteran players alike access to power weapons, creating an even and balanced playing field. The wide array of perks meant that players had to be alert and stay on their toes, raising the skill ceiling while also empowering new players. And making it so that players can't drop the flag in CTF prevented exploitable glitches like flag juggling, which in turn made the game more streamlined and fair.
Halo 4. Truly a master piece.
Halo 4. Truly a master piece.
Onikaan
Member
I knew it.
Your bravery has neither bound or limit. (or ceiling)
Ryan McCaffrey?!
It's better than pretty much all the other shooters out at the moment?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
LMAO why
keep it mind I dont subscribe to the newsletter of "its a bad Halo, but its a very good game otherwise!" shit. It failed at what it set out to do, keep your buts to yourself
CS:GO am cry
Orochinagis
Member
I kinda agree, Ordinances and perks needed more work to be balanced not just random with disadvantaged sinergies.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
PvZ Garden Warfare am cry
Altered Juice
Member
I don't Hate Halo 4, but you listed all the worst things about the game as improvements.
The ordnance system killed the need for any map control at all, because anyone could just bring power weapons to themselves. As a result, what was once a characteristically mobile game became completely stagnant. No fighting for sword rooms or rocket hallways... which was kinda always the whole point of Halo since 2001.
As for the flagnum. It's a cool idea, but all it really does is doom flag carriers to certain death unless they sit in a corner while their team defends them from the entire opposing team's inevitable attack, which diverts all the focus away from defending their own flag. It would work in a game with a higher player limit than 16 (or eight in most of Halo's cases). Halo 4's player limit is 16, and 4v4 and 5v5 matches are way more common than 8v8. So...
I always regarded Halo 4 as the fruit flavored chewable Halo. It's easier to swallow and tastes really good, but you only get half the nutrients you'd get from any other game in the series.
BF4, game of the forever.
I checked my Waypoint profile yesterday. I actually haven't played Halo 4 since last July.
like damn, I didn't know it was that long ago. Anyone up for some Labor Day Halo 4 tonight?
whoosh
Are you field testing stand up material for Mix?
Pfhunkie
Member
My issue with ordinance is on a very basic level. The internal debate at 343 Industries that probably gave birth to the idea of ordinance was, I imagine, this: "How do we reward players who are doing well?"
I'll tell you how you reward players who are doing well. It's really simple! For each kill they get, they get a point. Then, if they keep doing well, they win the match because they have more points than the other players. On the flip side, you have the argument that people who aren't as good need help to which I say they can receive help... by playing the game against people who are just as good or better than them so that they can become skillful at the game.
Simply put, you're playing well? Good. Keep playing well. You're playing poorly? Good. Keep trying until you're better. The journey to being a good player is what makes a game enjoyable.
I'll tell you how you reward players who are doing well. It's really simple! For each kill they get, they get a point. Then, if they keep doing well, they win the match because they have more points than the other players. On the flip side, you have the argument that people who aren't as good need help to which I say they can receive help... by playing the game against people who are just as good or better than them so that they can become skillful at the game.
Simply put, you're playing well? Good. Keep playing well. You're playing poorly? Good. Keep trying until you're better. The journey to being a good player is what makes a game enjoyable.
They definitely let too many "modern" features creep into Halo 4.
I put "modern" in quotes because they're not really an improvement on old systems, they're just trends that only work for a certain type of game. A type of game to which Halo has always been sort of an antithesis to.
Halo is in the Unreal: The Quakening family, not the Call of Battlefield: Hell's Highway family. It's not a military shooter. There's a military faction in it, but there's a reason why you spend most of every game in the franchise as a guy whose been separated from his group. It's so you don't have to be bogged down by that handholdy bullshit that comes with playing as a real shooty soldier man whose always with his squad.
The military in Halo is only there to make the Fantasy/ Pulp sci fi elements feel that much more bizarre. It's not there to be focused on, it's there to be focused from.
Military focused videogames have used the military hierarchies to give videogame style progression some context. There is, of course, a trade off here. Progression makes you feel good between games. When a match ends, look at those numbers wrack up. That glorious "beepbeep*sound of bar filling up*beepbeepbeep-SLAM*rankup*-beepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeep-SLAM-beepbeep-WOOSH*itemunlock*-beepbeepbeep" between games has kinda taken center stage while the actual game seems to be developed just so that moment between every match can happen. No one plays for the game when progression is the focus.
In my opinion, the only progression in Halo should be the player's god damned muscle memory. Aesthetic only unlocks are cool too. Not emblems though. No one should be limited on how they can make their emblems on Day 1. I played Halo as an escape from the "more hours = bigger guns" BS from any other shooter out there today. It was kinda crushing when news came out that Halo 4 was going to start incorporating these kinds of things.
Also, no one should EVER be able to start with a BR and a plasma pistol under any circumstances. Like... I know there's 343 employees on this forum. When that came up on the white board, was there any hesitation at all? I know there was awareness that these decisions would be controversial, but did no one really consider how detrimental they'd be?
I put "modern" in quotes because they're not really an improvement on old systems, they're just trends that only work for a certain type of game. A type of game to which Halo has always been sort of an antithesis to.
Halo is in the Unreal: The Quakening family, not the Call of Battlefield: Hell's Highway family. It's not a military shooter. There's a military faction in it, but there's a reason why you spend most of every game in the franchise as a guy whose been separated from his group. It's so you don't have to be bogged down by that handholdy bullshit that comes with playing as a real shooty soldier man whose always with his squad.
The military in Halo is only there to make the Fantasy/ Pulp sci fi elements feel that much more bizarre. It's not there to be focused on, it's there to be focused from.
Military focused videogames have used the military hierarchies to give videogame style progression some context. There is, of course, a trade off here. Progression makes you feel good between games. When a match ends, look at those numbers wrack up. That glorious "beepbeep*sound of bar filling up*beepbeepbeep-SLAM*rankup*-beepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeepbeep-SLAM-beepbeep-WOOSH*itemunlock*-beepbeepbeep" between games has kinda taken center stage while the actual game seems to be developed just so that moment between every match can happen. No one plays for the game when progression is the focus.
In my opinion, the only progression in Halo should be the player's god damned muscle memory. Aesthetic only unlocks are cool too. Not emblems though. No one should be limited on how they can make their emblems on Day 1. I played Halo as an escape from the "more hours = bigger guns" BS from any other shooter out there today. It was kinda crushing when news came out that Halo 4 was going to start incorporating these kinds of things.
Also, no one should EVER be able to start with a BR and a plasma pistol under any circumstances. Like... I know there's 343 employees on this forum. When that came up on the white board, was there any hesitation at all? I know there was awareness that these decisions would be controversial, but did no one really consider how detrimental they'd be?
ElzarTheBam
Member
If I see anyone playing Halo 4 in the MCC, I'll delete you.
Special exception OddOne, he's gone come Nov 11 regardless.
Special exception OddOne, he's gone come Nov 11 regardless.
Nah, pretty sure it was the opposite, how do you even the playing field for people who don't memorize weapon spawn locations & timers.
I will exclusively play the Halo 4 only playlist. Send messages to ElzarTheBum to join.
I never memorize timers
I always just made the rounds until something popped up. As for memorizing locations, that's pretty easy. It's all the same bits of your brain you use to remember where your toilet is.
Has anyone asked if Spartan Ops is gonna be in the MCC? Would be a shame if MCC shipped without some dumb coop sandboxy fun.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
I never memorize timers
I always just made the rounds until something popped up. As for memorizing locations, that's pretty easy. It's all the same bits of your brain you use to remember where your toilet is.
Has anyone asked if Spartan Ops is gonna be in the MCC? Would be a shame if MCC shipped without some dumb coop sandboxy fun.
"Fun" that was bullshit. Spartan Ops was badly written, Designed (really, cant use content on my hard drive if im a silver member) and badly executed.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Not tried PvZ, Ram?