Fata1moose
Banned
Midship is re-created in Halo 3 and while the gameplay isn't exactly the same, it won't be the same here either so that's kind of a waste. Though It'll probably be there. I'd like to see Sanctuary and Containment as the final two.
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Midship is re-created in Halo 3 and while the gameplay isn't exactly the same, it won't be the same here either so that's kind of a waste. Though It'll probably be there. I'd like to see Sanctuary and Containment as the final two.
Steelyuhas
Member
Don't really care about the H2A changes because it's inherently limited by only being six maps. How can that compete against the full games with 20+ maps? It can't, making H2A MP no more than a side dish in this package.
Zoso Achilles
Member
Yeah could be, but my expectations are at zero for that game anyways. If it turns out alright then great, I'll play it. Otherwise, other haloz will be alive now.
It really needs to be. Six maps aren't enough to support multiplayer long term.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
What do you all think of the potential PvP playlists they previewed? (Alliteration Points +10)
Steelyuhas
Member
Neither is forging maps
So my impressions from the panel:
The colletion in itself still seems amazing, with the playlists, campaigns, control schemes and stuff.
Hearing the part about new Easter eggs and skulls made me also really happy.
All have to keep in mind the original MPs are still aviable for everyone in 60fps
So to our new MP game: H2A.
I wished they didn't waste so much time on presenting Ascension, they could at least teased Coagulation with spawning on it and just showing us the skybox.
I also am not happy that Coagulation is gonna remade.
SO the changes:
ARs in Halo 2 Anniversary, well I don't see the point why they would be there?
Silenced SMGs same thing, just stuffing up the sandbox
Speed Boost, I don't think Speed boost is bad. So I welcome it.
Gungoose? I think it is an interesting idea, will probably be fun.
Upped the Magnum damage? hmmmm interesting.
No Button combos? Was expectable.
Shield thingy on Ascension? Have to play it to say how I like it, will probably be OP in Oddball or other Objective gametypes.
BUT!
We have still no sprint and no Armor Abilities, thank god for that. If those things aren't in, I'm still super confident in the game
The colletion in itself still seems amazing, with the playlists, campaigns, control schemes and stuff.
Hearing the part about new Easter eggs and skulls made me also really happy.
All have to keep in mind the original MPs are still aviable for everyone in 60fps
So to our new MP game: H2A.
I wished they didn't waste so much time on presenting Ascension, they could at least teased Coagulation with spawning on it and just showing us the skybox.
I also am not happy that Coagulation is gonna remade.
SO the changes:
ARs in Halo 2 Anniversary, well I don't see the point why they would be there?
Silenced SMGs same thing, just stuffing up the sandbox
Speed Boost, I don't think Speed boost is bad. So I welcome it.
Gungoose? I think it is an interesting idea, will probably be fun.
Upped the Magnum damage? hmmmm interesting.
No Button combos? Was expectable.
Shield thingy on Ascension? Have to play it to say how I like it, will probably be OP in Oddball or other Objective gametypes.
BUT!
We have still no sprint and no Armor Abilities, thank god for that. If those things aren't in, I'm still super confident in the game
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
They seem to take place after Halo 4. It's probably plot teases for Halo 5.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
i think the VO takes place after 3, but the montage is just explaining who the arbiter is.
Well, the new Coag isn't necessarily THE forge palette, but they said that all the new maps are forge-able, so perhaps it will become the forge palette for most maps anyway given the amount of space you have.
Something like the 3 flat pillars you got in H4 would be a nice add-in though.
Something like the 3 flat pillars you got in H4 would be a nice add-in though.
MrGreencastle
Member
Holy shit yes.
If they spawned in on Coag, we would have seen the forge pieces used to make the bases.
If I recall correctly Master Chief doesn't say a word to the Arbiter during Halo 3 at all.
I remember thinking how rude it was
Zero interest in the H2A multiplayer. Doesn't bother me one bit, though. The only thing that worries me is the playlist situation. One hopper for each game isn't enough, and frankly I don't see many people enjoying the process of switching from game to game at the whim of democracy.
Ideally, they would give each game its own set of playlists along with a separate selection dedicated to all the games. Something like:
All Games
Halo: CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo 4
And under each category the usual suspects; Slayer, FFA, Objective, SWAT, BTB, Snipers, etc. Sparse population may be the issue 343 is worried about, but we need more options than just "Halo x Team" if we want our fix in a certain game.
Ideally, they would give each game its own set of playlists along with a separate selection dedicated to all the games. Something like:
All Games
Halo: CE
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo 4
And under each category the usual suspects; Slayer, FFA, Objective, SWAT, BTB, Snipers, etc. Sparse population may be the issue 343 is worried about, but we need more options than just "Halo x Team" if we want our fix in a certain game.
So my impressions from the panel:
The colletion in itself still seems amazing, with the playlists, campaigns, control schemes and stuff.
Hearing the part about new Easter eggs and skulls made me also really happy.
All have to keep in mind the original MPs are still aviable for everyone in 60fps
So to our new MP game: H2A.
I wished they didn't waste so much time on presenting Ascension, they could at least teased Coagulation with spawning on it and just showing us the skybox.
I also am not happy that Coagulation is gonna remade.
SO the changes:
ARs in Halo 2 Anniversary, well I don't see the point why they would be there?
Silenced SMGs same thing, just stuffing up the sandbox
Speed Boost, I don't think Speed boost is bad. So I welcome it.
Gungoose? I think it is an interesting idea, will probably be fun.
Upped the Magnum damage? hmmmm interesting.
No Button combos? Was expectable.
Shield thingy on Ascension? Have to play it to say how I like it, will probably be OP in Oddball or other Objective gametypes.
BUT!
We have still no sprint and no Armor Abilities, thank god for that. If those things aren't in, I'm still super confident in the game
Pretty much my thoughts exactly.
As long as sprint/armor abilities are absent, I'll give it a go and see how it plays.
No big deal if it's no good, since we'll always have the original MP to fallback on.
MrGreencastle
Member
Can we have a breakdown of the changes seen on Ascension by a good halo 2 player, and explanations for why they are bad?
edit: thanks IHaveIce
edit: thanks IHaveIce
YourExWife
Member
Personally, I was looking forward to checking out the Anniversary maps as a different way to play some updated OG stuff. I've never really liked Ascension itself, so I don't really have that big of a qualm with it changing. But some of the other remade maps are my favs, so it's a different story. "If you wanna H2 classic, go do that" - well obviously that's likely going to be the case, but that doesn't mean people can't express disappointment in the Anniversary maps if they were looking forward to them *SPECIFICALLY FOR NOSTALGIA REASONS TO BEGIN WITH*.
Maybe it's just me, but I was under the impression that H5 was the "new" game.
Looks like no weapon I've ever seen before. It's hard to tell what it actually is though.
No but they help.
II SHABUTIE II
Neo Member
Considering Coagulation is being remade, 343 really missed out on a chance for RvB magic at the RTX panel.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Just remember to always party up with HaloGAFers so you can vote for Classic Halo 2 options every time when NuCoagulation 4v4 SMG starts shows up
PachinkoChampBruh
Member
Assault Rifles were shown as a selectable weapon in one of the old Halo 2 betas, although we don't know if they were ever actually implemented. Technically a restored cut feature if they were.
Mongoose/Gungoose were announced cut vehicles way back at the game's release
Silenced SMG is a weapon that was cut from Halo 2, is in Halo 2 PC, and was shown being used in Bungie prototypes like this:
Mongoose/Gungoose were announced cut vehicles way back at the game's release
Silenced SMG is a weapon that was cut from Halo 2, is in Halo 2 PC, and was shown being used in Bungie prototypes like this:
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
How is the Halo 2 PC Silenced SMG different than the normal SMG? Is it just like the ODST SMG?
Pfhunkie
Member
Dat grenade countAssault Rifles were shown as a selectable weapon in one of the old Halo 2 betas, although we don't know if they were ever actually implemented. Technically a restored cut feature if they were.
Mongoose/Gungoose were announced cut vehicles way back at the game's release
Silenced SMG is a weapon that was cut from Halo 2, is in Halo 2 PC, and was shown being used in Bungie prototypes like this:
As for silenced SMGs, I've never been a fan of silenced weapons in general in the Halo franchise. It really fit in with ODST but that's just about it for me.
You make it sound like a bad thing. Will be interesting to see how the new mongoose is used in objective gametypes.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
bet you can't stick it
and has been answered a bunch of times!!!
vincent vega
Member
concerned about this as well. for each separate game they should have at least 2 playlists: team slayer and btb
Fata1moose
Banned
The Q&A reminded me of the South Park episode where Stan asks god why he hasn't gotten his period yet.
So my impressions from the panel:
The colletion in itself still seems amazing, with the playlists, campaigns, control schemes and stuff.
Hearing the part about new Easter eggs and skulls made me also really happy.
All have to keep in mind the original MPs are still aviable for everyone in 60fps
So to our new MP game: H2A.
I wished they didn't waste so much time on presenting Ascension, they could at least teased Coagulation with spawning on it and just showing us the skybox.
I also am not happy that Coagulation is gonna remade.
SO the changes:
ARs in Halo 2 Anniversary, well I don't see the point why they would be there?
Silenced SMGs same thing, just stuffing up the sandbox
Speed Boost, I don't think Speed boost is bad. So I welcome it.
Gungoose? I think it is an interesting idea, will probably be fun.
Upped the Magnum damage? hmmmm interesting.
No Button combos? Was expectable.
Shield thingy on Ascension? Have to play it to say how I like it, will probably be OP in Oddball or other Objective gametypes.
BUT!
We have still no sprint and no Armor Abilities, thank god for that. If those things aren't in, I'm still super confident in the game
I more or less feel the same way.
Just about, also can be dw'd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93mkuqxPydM#t=105
Best video i've found yet (would record it myself, but the laptop i'm currently stuck can't record and play halo 2 at the same time)
Mentioned it in my H2 features request thing, guess I have to go update that now
Pretty glad that original Halo 2 is in the package, because H2A seems kind of uninteresting to me after seeing some of the additions. Not necessarily because they seem like overly offensive additions, I just don't see why they exist for the most part. Like, the Gungoose? The Mongoose didn't have guns for a reason....the Ghost already exists. How is this differentiated from that besides having a passenger and not being able to strafe? It's like you've made a Ghost/Warthog bastard that ignores what the Mongoose was intended to be. Even if this is what was originally going to be in the game (I honestly don't know), that got cut and changed for a reason.
Also legitimately entertaining to see the return of "well just wait until you've played it!" as though we've time traveled two years into the past, or as though human beings are totally incapable of critical thinking and rational inference.
No way they're final, though, considering they don't have anything for higher player counts on the list.
Also legitimately entertaining to see the return of "well just wait until you've played it!" as though we've time traveled two years into the past, or as though human beings are totally incapable of critical thinking and rational inference.
Haven't watched the panel, but Wario posted a screenshot of the playlist page. Seems like a one-size-fits-all solution, which I think is wildly inappropriate given the drastically different strengths each game had. Lumping Slayer and Objective in together is a really fast way to make me either disinterested or actively annoyed - it's really obvious how those voting lobbies are going to go.
No way they're final, though, considering they don't have anything for higher player counts on the list.
Weird, it's almost as though being an unarmed transport was its intended function because that role+guns already existed. Truly a mystery for the ages, you're right.
Why not have the Gungoose? The Mongoose is essentially pointless except in objective modes.
Orochinagis
Member
The new prophets design makes them looks like ET with glowing robes.
Yep but without dash and limited ammo maybe?
Yep but without dash and limited ammo maybe?
I5CharactersMax
Neo Member
They can make all the changes to H2A that they want, as long as they leave the original H2 and HCE multiplayer alone. H4,H2A its all the same noise.
nillapuddin
Member
my crazy going all in theory of the day
Every piece of Halo armor will be available to be used on any map at any time.
Every piece of Halo armor will be available to be used on any map at any time.
Orochinagis
Member
Can you customize your spartan in Halo 2 A?
Huge difference in mobility. Can't strafe on a mongoose, for example.
MrGreencastle
Member
So my impressions from the panel:
The colletion in itself still seems amazing, with the playlists, campaigns, control schemes and stuff.
Hearing the part about new Easter eggs and skulls made me also really happy.
All have to keep in mind the original MPs are still aviable for everyone in 60fps
So to our new MP game: H2A.
I wished they didn't waste so much time on presenting Ascension, they could at least teased Coagulation with spawning on it and just showing us the skybox.
Agreed. No Coag footage is suspicious. Could be too early, could be something about the map they don't want to reveal just yet?Forge World
I also am not happy that Coagulation is gonna remade.
If they had to pick a classic big map, they should have picked Containment (assuming it's not in). But I understand why they did it - it's THE most iconic halo map overall in the mainstream in my opinion. Hasn't had a proper remake really. Valhalla and Forge World "coag" don't count.
SO the changes:
ARs in Halo 2 Anniversary, well I don't see the point why they would be there?
Silenced SMGs same thing, just stuffing up the sandbox
Ignoring the obvious with BR starts, AR starts are better than SMG starts (and MORE gun options isn't bad, imo, especially considering forge is in for custom/"classic"/"fixed" variants) Will have to wait and see what the AR is like > Halo CE, 3, or 4 style? Hopefully CE, that's the only good one. Silenced SMG, meh. Fanservice.
Speed Boost, I don't think Speed boost is bad. So I welcome it.
Gungoose? I think it is an interesting idea, will probably be fun.
Upped the Magnum damage? hmmmm interesting.
I want to see how much they upped it. I dislike Halo 2's magnum only slightly less than 3's, they were both shit, imo, so we will see.
No Button combos? Was expectable.
Didn't even think/hear of this. Makes sense, but I'm sad about it, missed opportunity to polish them up.
Shield thingy on Ascension? Have to play it to say how I like it, will probably be OP in Oddball or other Objective gametypes.
Reminds me of Snowbound and Epitaph > maps so poor they needed to re-release shield door-less versions of them. Not being permanent and having 3 buttons is interesting, but the problem is the thunderdome being made even more of a thunderdome.
BUT!
We have still no sprint and no Armor Abilities, thank god for that. If those things aren't in, I'm still super confident in the game
No AAs is a godsend. Glad they made that decision. Same with Sprint.
Responses in bold. All in all, I think it looks fine. "director's cut"?.... not really, aside from remade cut content I guess.
Hmm did not know about this at all. Barely played Halo 2 vista mp... Sweet!
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Edit: couple kinda shitty gifs from other thread:
H2A MP seems pretty meh to me. I'll just ignore it. I do worry about the time being spent on it and adding yet another version to the already extremely bloated versions of Halo that will be available. Which I guess is my concern overall. The playlists will make or break the collection. I'm still excited but somewhat worried about that aspect. Seems pretty messy and iffy right now.
Nirvana
Member
You realise you can still play Halo 2 original multiplayer in 1080p right?
See what Havok says other than strafe and a passenger they're the same role in the sandbox.
The Henery
Member
Skybox on Ascension looks sensational. Liking the added cover on plasma pistol walkway. Gungoose is hilarious... I take it a passenger is required to fire?
New vehicles added to H2A... Hopefully a Hornet or Chopper.
The questions asked NEVER fail to astound in their brainlessness. "So, 343 and MS have repeatedly denied the existence of a Halo 2 anniversary for the past couple of years despite relentless cajoling, prodding and haranguing on forums and twitter. They finally confirmed it five months before its release..... I know. I'll ask if they're releasing a Halo 3 anniversary three years from now. I wanna know what the answer to that will be!
Terrible waste of Q&A, as is routine.
New vehicles added to H2A... Hopefully a Hornet or Chopper.
The questions asked NEVER fail to astound in their brainlessness. "So, 343 and MS have repeatedly denied the existence of a Halo 2 anniversary for the past couple of years despite relentless cajoling, prodding and haranguing on forums and twitter. They finally confirmed it five months before its release..... I know. I'll ask if they're releasing a Halo 3 anniversary three years from now. I wanna know what the answer to that will be!
Terrible waste of Q&A, as is routine.
