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HaloGAF |OT: Anniversary| So fades the great harvest of our betrayal.
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NobleGundam
Banned
Thanks bae
NobleGundam
Banned
If it wasn't for me Ian wouldn't have gotten in tbh. The 343vHG didn't happen tonight :/
But interview is nailed in, prepare your butts
Concept art. He's holding concept art.
YourExWife
Member
Every post you make about food/drink makes me love you.
Also, tonight was amazing! I'm gonna have to make a video of some of the shenanigans. What happened to your connection at the end, man?
II SHABUTIE II
Neo Member
Yeah, I wouldn't look too far into it. Sometimes concept art can be slightly deceptive. It could just be a quick "slop job" gun. I don't think the idea is to show off any new/old gun in particular. Kinda like how sometimes marines and Chief end up in MP concept art, but never in the actual mp portion of the game. By MC I mean olive green campaign Chief.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
How's the The Pit remake in Halo 4? I haven't had a chance to play it yet.
II SHABUTIE II
Neo Member
I was never a fan of The Pit, with that said, Ricochet on Pitfall is one of the funnest things to do in Halo 4. Aside from that, it plays pretty similar to how it used to, difference being mainly sprint, getting you through mid quicker and getting you out of harms way all too often.
Some quick shots of that Anni Ascension in Reach map, because Waypoint finally caught up:
Rock Staircase
The changed bridge w/ OS. You have to crouch jump to get to the ramp, like in the demo
The widened banshee ramp. This area is really sloppy, could have done a better job even for a prototype
The sniper jump, reach style. Amusingly, there's an opening on that forge piece, but it's on the wrong side. This ledge lets you just walk forward once you get on it due to the little ramp so it mostly works the same
Second pass I'll do something better than the glass sails
Rock Staircase
The changed bridge w/ OS. You have to crouch jump to get to the ramp, like in the demo
The widened banshee ramp. This area is really sloppy, could have done a better job even for a prototype
The sniper jump, reach style. Amusingly, there's an opening on that forge piece, but it's on the wrong side. This ledge lets you just walk forward once you get on it due to the little ramp so it mostly works the same
Second pass I'll do something better than the glass sails
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Fyre I don't want to sound rude or anything... but why did you do that? It seems like unnecessary work? Reach won't feel close at all kovement wise to H2A, and has complete different sandbox.
Also I heard there are even more new vehicles in HH2A? If that is cprrect we can bet Cpagulation isn't the only remade BTB map.
Also did they clarify if the Banshee in H2A will be bombless? Because fucl the banshee bomb
Also I heard there are even more new vehicles in HH2A? If that is cprrect we can bet Cpagulation isn't the only remade BTB map.
Also did they clarify if the Banshee in H2A will be bombless? Because fucl the banshee bomb
LinkToTheFuture
Member
Sotaro composed? I thought he was just the sound engineer. I was under the impression it was Neil / Kazuma that were running the sound track.
It was fun back when you could actually expect to play it. It worked well with ricochet too. I can't reLly think of any problems with it either. Obviously sprint has an effect on how it plays but... eh.
RoyalLaFlame
Banned
True. I miss Martin O'Donnel.
Seeing this music playing in MCC on the Halo 2 screen... omg. So many memories.
Sotaro did not compose, I apologize. I was thinking of Kazuma but screwed up.
There will be some form of stats tracking, yes. However, we do not know how this will look like exactly. With 4 months left for developement, I could imagine this is something that stands at the very end of the roadmap.
Not to worry, we still have time. Actually came in to post a final final call on questions, interview is soon and we need to get it all organized.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
User 73706
Banned
I'm assuming if actual audio gets recorded it'll be part of the podcast itself. Still gotta talk with the RR crew about mastering this one.
Exploratory
Banned
Please leave.
Orochinagis
Member
No idea, it happens when it past the 1 am, I guess the dead rat just felt of the internet cable again.
Superb matches yesterday anyway
Because the maps need to be shiny to be good...
Orochinagis
Member
More? I had a headache for the map brightness in the stream.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Good shit. I love watching competitive play on Simplex.
He's just saying he hopes there's a way to play actual Halo 2 on the updated maps. I feel the same way.
Obviously it isn't a dealbreaker as I can still play the hell out of CE/2/3, but I can't help but be a bit disappointed that (what should be) the best versions of these maps are tied to a gametype I have no interest in.
Just to get a feel for the changes. You can just change Reach settings to imitate Halo 2's, and play with ZB to imitate the H2 BR.
I also find it amusing to make a map from a video before the map is actually released.
Also, it took me like, a half hour to make
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Question: Do you all want to see the pulse grenade return in Halo 5? If so, would you change it? The Halo 4 variant seems widely regarded as useless, and I'm wondering if it really has a place in the sandbox.
I'd rather not see it in 5. This is coming from someone who has like 2 kills with it total.
Orochinagis
Member
Right know in Halo 4 is a finisher grenade, it have less danger than a plasma grenade and you can simply pass trought it without being in danger at all
It needs to drain shield faster the more you stay in the area (maybe a slow movement ability?) not killing the spartan in the process and the explosion needs a pushback ability or stun for vehicles.
So I finally managed to check out the Ascencion walk through (so busy procrastinating and whatnot) and MY GOD. I know it's been said but that skybox is GORGEOUS. I couldn't believe what I was looking at! I love that the Halo ring is to scale as well. It's the little things.
That coagulation concept art is nothing to scoff at either! I mean I'm genuinely looking forward to an actual remake of it and not a Forge variant. Can't wait to see if those open areas to the side in the art are actually going to be implemented in some way.
That coagulation concept art is nothing to scoff at either! I mean I'm genuinely looking forward to an actual remake of it and not a Forge variant. Can't wait to see if those open areas to the side in the art are actually going to be implemented in some way.
I don't think it really does much myself I mean the concepts alright but the execution is lacking. Like the rest of the forerunner weapons in 4 it just takes up space in the sandbox which it doesn't really justify. So I wouldn't want it back again.
I would like to see it return but only if they can give it more of a defined role.
The only thing I ever really used it for was to kind of "block off" players that were after me since it acted sort of like a wall. Other than that though I only used it if I had nothing else. It's really a shame too because the concept sounds pretty cool, but the grenade is just too weak and it doesn't have much impact except in a select few situations.
The spike grenade for instance had the same sticking ability as the plasmas, however it's own blast radius was much smaller. This was fine though because it had the ability to stick to any surface and shoot off a cone of pointy death that would ricochet just to make sure it killed you. This gave it a unique role in the sandbox that was fun and felt good to pull off.
If the Pulse grenade is brought back it needs to have that unique role. One possible change could be to add a slight EMP blast when the grenade hits detonates. It won't happen until the grenade actually is set off though so it could be avoided. The EMP could be represented by a ring of sorts that blasts outwards showing the actual reach of it too.
Sort of like this
It would still put up the pulse sphere as well. Slightly increase the damage output of the sphere as well to make it more threatening and keep it the same size. This way if the players shields were hit at all it would deter them from running straight through the sphere itself.
I can't really think of much else that would keep its current play style.
Maybe give it a EMP effect, so it would shut down or slow vehicles that passed through it, and drain shields. Right now the issue is that it doesn't seem to do much except stop people from moving through an area. Either boost its damage, boost its utility, or boost that defensive capability, I guess.
Orochinagis
Member
Sort of like this
It would still put up the pulse sphere as well. Slightly increase the damage output of the sphere as well to make it more threatening and keep it the same size. This way if the players shields were hit at all it would deter them from running straight through the sphere itself.
I can't really think of much else that would keep its current play style.
So if i gather several guys and everyone throws pulse grenades it nukes the match?
User 73706
Banned
I think the Pulse Grenade could work as a low-grade Incendiary, kind of like the Frag-to-Plasma relationship. Pulse is a duration-based AOE, could offer slightly more damage in-field and also induce slowdown on horizontal and vertical planes, making it a Stasis Grenade of sorts. In other words, you could lock enemies attempting to flee or cake a power weapon in it to prevent a speedy getaway by the enemy team, slow down an otherwise lethal fall on your part, etc.
I think in addition to the weaker, more movement-focused Pulse there needs to be a stronger fourth grenade type that goes in for direct kills, though.
I think in addition to the weaker, more movement-focused Pulse there needs to be a stronger fourth grenade type that goes in for direct kills, though.
Yes. It would actually bleed over into other peoples matches as well killing all that are playing on that map. The only thing that they will see before they die is a pretty light and then dead.
This way it will not only be feared, but it will add a dynamic element to the the online multiplayer that is super cool. If the enemy team is running away with your flag or destroying you with all dem vehicles, a giant death ring could blast out of nowhere followed by a lovely blue sphere of doom. If that happens you can even find out what players initiated it and send them a thank you message because it will be tied to their kills.
This will also eliminate KD boosting since you can just nuke the entirety of multiplayer once and you're good.
nillapuddin
Member
UNSC EMP grenades/discs just need to be a thing.
Instant explosion upon hitting an object or player, small radius, full shield deletion.
Direct vehicle hit = full stun
Non direct vehicle exposure = temp slowdown
They even use some device like that in Headhunters, I feel like that's the only additional grenade type that could be meaningfully useful in our sandbox.
Instant explosion upon hitting an object or player, small radius, full shield deletion.
Direct vehicle hit = full stun
Non direct vehicle exposure = temp slowdown
They even use some device like that in Headhunters, I feel like that's the only additional grenade type that could be meaningfully useful in our sandbox.
Was it a TS game?
Gone to game 5, lost 2 TS games and CTF flag game on Dispatch
Eww, team slayer still in competitive. I hope there are more objective gametypes in Halo 5.
God damn the negativity.
So many people are just assuming the changes are going to be horrible without really knowing.
Also aren't Certain Affinity and Max (the guy who originally designed the maps...) the ones designing the new maps...?
