The moment she told me "you're bombing babies" I knew the conversation was lost. You can't argue with someone who equates our hard work not to hurt civilians, compared to them who did atrocities the world can not abide.
Yup, me too.
Yup, me too.
And some more sad news, the German/Israeli girl, Shani, who was raped and paraded on the back of a truck naked was found dead
True but I but I think he was referring to that there was in general a continuous improvement throughout the 18th and 19th century and then there was a big period of regression in the 30s and 40s which obviously he thought was a good thing. It was no doubt bad before but it was typically better than the previous century but with recent events I would say anti semitism has gone back 100 years and these people haven't just started hating Jews, they obviously always had. Also when you look at people being pro segregation, racial hierarchy etc. This century looks like it's going backwards. I have even see a shocking number of comments saying Hitler was right recently. This stuff was always there just hidden.
I think everyone kinda knew she was dead, everyone except her mother who thought she was alive. But now it's confirmed.
The West is not falling as of now but I wouldn't be surprised if it does. I remember reading about the fall of Constantinople to Islam which finally ended the Roman /Byzantine Empire. It didn't happen overnight, it was gradual and Europe could easily have United to defeat the invaders but they didn't because they were too preoccupied with squabbling with each other. I don't see why it would different now.
Show that then, not unrelated footage presented as being from this conflict. This just gives a free win to the ones who want to see evidence of Hamas deception as fake news.
True.
I’ve been hearing predictions of the fall of the west due to the hordes of Islamic migrants since at least 2001. We’ve been told to just “wait a few decades” for over two decades, and yet here we are in 2023 and I don’t recall the last time anyone interjected the viewpoint of sharia law into the public discourse on gender reassignment surgery.
To be honest, this one is a bit more complicated and hard to predict. Demographically Muslims just don't make up that much of the population in most European countries and even less in America. It would take decades at the current rate for Muslims to become a majority outside of some urban areas. It is possible if demographic trends continue but It will take at least 50 years. Politically things would then change as is it has everywhere else that has seen the same trend.. However what we don't know is if Islam goes the way of Christianity of if successive generations become less religious. It doesn't look like it now but it could happen. I remember people saying that Conservatism would die out because when polled the vast majority of young people in the 60s were left wing but now they are 70 they vote overwhelmingly for the right.
Yes, and please don't be offensive to animals.
Hitchens has used this historical fact as evidence on the real identity of Islam and its teachings.History fascinates, as always. Jefferson and Adams met with the ambassador of Tripoli after the Barbary States captured and enslaved ~1.25 million Europeans and Americans and demanded tribute from the USA. They had some choice words about the meeting in their letter back home. Jefferson then decided not to pay tribute and instead sent the fledgeling American navy there to take them out and rescue the captives.
"Founders Online: American Commissioners to John Jay, 28 March 1786
American Commissioners to John Jay, 28 March 1786founders.archives.gov
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We took the liberty to make some inquiries concerning the Grounds of their pretentions to make war upon Nations who had done them no Injury, and observed that we considered all mankind as our friends who had done us no wrong, nor had given us any provocation.
The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their Prophet,1 that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every Musselman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.
That it was a law that the first who boarded an Enemy’s Vessell should have one slave, more than his share with the rest, which operated as an incentive to the most desperate Valour and Enterprise, that it was the Practice of their Corsairs to bear down upon a ship, for each sailor to take a dagger in each hand and another in his mouth, and leap on board, which so terrified their Enemies that very few ever stood against them, that he verily believed the Devil assisted his Countrymen, for they were almost always successful. We took time to consider and promised an answer, but we can give him no other, than that the demands exceed our Expectations, and that of Congress, so much that we can proceed no further without fresh instructions.
There is but one possible way that we know of to procure the money, if Congress should authorize us to go to the necessary expence, and that is to borrow it in Holland. We are not certain it can be had there. But if Congress should order us to make the best terms we can with Tunis, Tripoli, Algiers and Morocco, and to procure this money wherever we can find it, upon terms like those of the last loan in Holland, our best endeavours shall be used to remove this formidable obstacle out of the way of the prosperity of the United States.
Inclosed is a Copy of a Letter from P. R. Randall Esqr. at Barcelona, the last from Mr. Barclay was dated Bayonne. It is hoped we shall soon have news from Algiers and Morocco, and we wish it may not be made more disagreable than this from Tunis and Tripoli. We are &c.
J.A.
T.J.
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The more things change...
The problem is that even among jews some of them (or maybe a lot?) do not support Israel.
Yeah, I believe with muslim population growing in Europe you will get a lot of folks aligned with the middle east in europe. It would be something similar to western countries aligning with other western countries and vice versa. Will be a gr
Some Jews don't, but overwhelmingly they do. Some Jews also supported Hitler, some people think people can change. And as you grow older you understand that people can change if they work at it, and most are lazy.
Europe was very different in 1450. When Constantinople got reinforcements from Europe, they were seen as being like weird dysfunctional barbaric savages, not some sort of advanced Atlantean stormtroopers from the future. It was only after Constantinople fell that Europe went through the Renaissance or "Rebirth" where they recovered a lot of knowledge that they lost with the fall of the Western Roman Empire, largely fuelled by eastern scholars fleeing to the west with their libraries.
Westerners expect a certain level of freedom and comfort. When things become less comfortable, they leave and the demographics change very fast. It happens in Israel all the time. When a town's Haredi population becomes large enough, certain areas of the city become ultra-religious, with male/female separation and special dress codes, etc. When this happens, the secular Jews start feeling like it's not their home anymore, they don't feel comfortable in their own neighborhood and eventually, they leave.
Even worse, Hamas allegedly found the group that murdered him, but Arrigoni's parents urged Hamas that they shouldn't be put to death.
Which will accelerate the process even further. But it can also mean that an extreme right-wing party might rise.
Probably. And then finally we will have cries about "nazi nazi nazi", "threat to society" etc.
