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[ADiTAR]

Tanzanian national taken hostage by Hamas confirmed dead

A Tanzanian national who has been missing since Oct. 7 has been confirmed killed by Hamas, Tanzania’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs has announced.

abcnews.go.com

The footage of the killing of this man on Twitter is some of most brutal inhuman shit I’ve ever seen. None of the killers is wearing anything that points to them being from Hamas. They look like civilian Palestinians.

Here is the footage, because news networks strangley don't want to share it.

 

[tommib]

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

CTRL + F "background check" was the thesis statement. Thanks for reading that but the whole of this wasn't about visas. Just gave perspective as to how tedious the entry process is for Mexicans. Visa isn't just for living, that's for an anytime/everyday visit to the States. If it's the same for other countries, great. Should be difficult to gain entry. When I applied for my Mexican residency it was a 3-year process. Expensive, ton of paperwork, ton of stipulations and if I failed anything in criminal background check, it would have been void. However, we're talking general entry into a country. Customs and border control will do what exactly for inbound flights regarding background checks? This is a new process for non-U.S. muslims visiting the States if they're being checked. I was literally implying to single them out with checks. Not going to derail this thread, so if it's not a constructive response...save it for elsewhere.

Do you even know what a visa is? You need to apply for a visa before you travel to the United States, unless your country is visa exempt (mostly other western nations). Customs and border will verify that you have the ability to enter the country at the port of entry and might perform extra scrutiny if necessary, but the background checks were done weeks to months prior during the visa process. Just because you don’t see them doing a background check at the airport doesn’t mean these people haven’t been vetted. The process starts and is completed overseas when they fill out their visa application and includes a criminal record check and an interview at the embassy.

Like I said, the only Muslim country that has visa free access is Brunei. You’re basically ranting about a problem that doesn’t exist and your “solution” is already in place.

 

[ADiTAR]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Thats basically how it is in any sketchy place. The people are down in the dumps, while all the political and military leaders live in nice houses and drive a Mercedes.

 

[tommib]

From a historical perspective the Gaza War will be pivotal not because of its intensity, but because the global response to the war revived the extremist claim that all of Israel is “illegitimate” and “occupied.”

Once a position only held by terrorists and disheveled ideologues, protestors and influencers now rant about “75 years of occupation” and chant “From the River to the Sea.” For the first time in a long time, these protests and polls are giving the Palestinians a false sense they are making progress when they couldn’t be further from their goal.

Unlike other refugee populations that were absorbed and resettled, the Palestinians were encouraged early on to embrace futile and counterproductive positions like the elimination of Israel and the “right of return.” If these maximalist positions become mainstream again, it will condemn the Palestinian people to another 75 years of statelessness.

A “return to 1948” is a cruel and seductive mirage for a destitute people who are conferred with a perpetual refugee status generation after generation. It inspires them to take pride in intransigence, to find solace in defeat, and to insist their patience will outlast that of the Jews. As a result, for 75 years the Palestinians have shown that they “learn nothing and forget nothing,” ensuring that the only thing they learn from their mistakes, are how to make new ones.

It is doubtful whether they would persist with such a failed strategy were their global supporters not such eager accomplices in this self-destruction. The Palestinian people have become a national Sisyphus forced by their “allies” to roll a boulder up a hill for eternity.

The aspiration for a Palestinian state is both legitimate and feasible provided it is based on building a future not rooted in a mythical past. However, this will take time because it requires internalizing several sweeping developments that have transformed the conflict 75 years on. This includes the permanent existence of Israel, the expulsion of Jews from Islamic lands, and the 2M Palestinian Israelis who don't want any part in the "struggle."

The Jews too once had a fanciful aspiration of an independent state, but they abandoned a maximalist strategy and made the best of the opportunity they had. Zionism transformed miserable and defeated Jewish refugees into proud and industrious Israelis, unrecognizable to their ancestors a generation or two before. Importantly, the Jews were encouraged by their global supporters to build, and so it must be with those who support the aspirations of the Palestinians.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The Jews too once had a fanciful aspiration of an independent state, but they abandoned a maximalist strategy and made the best of the opportunity they had. Zionism transformed miserable and defeated Jewish refugees into proud and industrious Israelis, unrecognizable to their ancestors a generation or two before. Importantly, the Jews were encouraged by their global supporters to build, and so it must be with those who support the aspirations of the Palestinians.

The strive for economy and ambition works wonders.

Howard Stern even joked about it one time saying if Jews were stranded in the desert, they'd probably figure out how to make a living growing lemon trees.

People who live in highly indoctrinated and religious upbringings dont realize how growing an economy solves lots of issues. When you got people striving for good with education, a job, something to keep you productive and busy where you buy shit with all the money flowing, it keeps the cycle going for society. And when things are humming, it expands internationally with business and tourists. Give it a few decades or centuries and those crappy houses and businesses turn into slick homes and skyscraper head offices. They can be religious if they want to be, but it wont be the highlight of their lives taking over their minds with hatred. There's other things to worry about during the day.

Think of it like being at work. Strive to do a good job, be chill with coworkers and bosses and over time things go pretty well. But if someone wants to focus on doing their own thing, not being productive, and publicly hating and criticizing coworkers then things wont go well and company will hate you back. You'll never grow as an employee doing better. Instead you'll be stuck at a dead end job.

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I think Gaza War will be also pivotal in a way that it will be the final nail in the coffin of the global international structures like UN.

 

[ADiTAR]

The strive for economy and ambition works wonders.

Howard Stern even joked about it one time saying if Jews were stranded in the desert, they'd probably figure out how to make a living growing lemon trees.

It's called winning with the cards you are dealt. Israel is 60% desert and we have huge crops and farms there of bell peppers and more. We have grown stuff in the desert.

 

[Happosai]

Do you even know what a visa is? You need to apply for a visa before you travel to the United States, unless your country is visa exempt (mostly other western nations). Customs and border will verify that you have the ability to enter the country at the port of entry and might perform extra scrutiny if necessary, but the background checks were done weeks to months prior during the visa process. Just because you don’t see them doing a background check at the airport doesn’t mean these people haven’t been vetted. The process starts and is completed overseas when they fill out their visa application and includes a criminal record check and an interview at the embassy.

Like I said, the only Muslim country that has visa free access is Brunei. You’re basically ranting about a problem that doesn’t exist and your “solution” is already in place.

My goodness. You're just like that other guy in the thread. Firsr of all, I travel the world...I've gone through the visa process. That's not at all what I was talking about with background check. I made it very clear I was referring to customs giving extra background checks to people entering the U.S. or anywhere else right there at the airport. Not talking TSA pat down before you twist it into that. They could be background checked during the visa process, get a visa issued, not go through a more thorough check AGAIN upon arriving in the U.S. (or elsewhere where they are risk) and pull a Muhammed Atta. Then again, I didn't have high hopes you've read anything I wrote given I wrote that in November and it's December 17th.

As I stated before, if you're going to derail, I'm not continuing this with you in January 2024.

If Western media wanted to redeem themselves for demonizing IDF, encouraging anti-Semite groups or just having ignored every; footage like this would be it. If the world saw this coupled with the video of Hamas stealing 'relief' money; people will ask how these poor terrorists were able to afford spending on such a project. Look no further than the UN among many others who've funded this without getting charged for their part in funding the terror attacks and Hamas.

 

[ADiTAR]

The West is weak. This guy should've been planted the moment he made a threat.

 

[ManaByte]

Nazis are canceling Spielberg now.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

The West is weak. This guy should've been planted the moment he made a threat.

Good thing I dont live anywhere close to Eaton Centre. As I said in above post, it always seems every city gets the worst people downtown or in high dense areas. Great to visit for stuff to do, but not to live. And some people wonder why over time every city has the richer chill people moving away to the burbs even if it means a pain in the ass commute back to downtown.

For those of you who dont know, that giant mall is a downtown relic and the main mall tourists will shop at as it's the only one downtown. it's such an iconic place, the name Eaton Centre has been kept even though the Eaton's store went bankrupt probably 20 years ago and at one time Sears Canada took over their space. But it's still called Eaton Centre. When I went to university downtown in the 90s, it was fine. Dont remember any protests and weird shit although you always had panhandlers on sidewalks and some in subway stations.

Any scuzzy protests may happen across the street at Yonge/Dundas Square. You also got a lot of students downtown due to many colleges and universities within walking distance and who knows what weird shit any homeless and druggies contribute (they would be more east of Yonge St, since going west of Yonge St is Bay St (business district buildings). But Eaton Centre is right at the heart spanning the entire east/west block of Yonge/Bay. So when you add up all the weird people and any loser students with a screw loose, that part of the city is a good potential for idiocy.

 

[BadBurger]

My god, they're huge.

Edit: also, how can a human being support Hamas? They're brazen murderers, rapists, and torturers. This world makes no sense.

 

[ADiTAR]

My god, they're huge.

Edit: also, how can a human being support Hamas? They're brazen murderers, rapists, and torturers. This world makes no sense.

How did people support the Nazis? Why did people join ISIS?

Antisemitism is really self hate. Blaming someone else for your shit.

It's kinda like what I see on dating profiles. People who list what they don't want in a partner is actually what they are.

 

[Happosai]

How did people support the Nazis? Why did people join ISIS?

Antisemitism is really self hate. Blaming someone else for your shit.



It's kinda like what I see on dating profiles. People who list what they don't want in a partner is actually what they are.

Who wrote this? Can't get more opaque than that. What they (anti-Semitics) have is a deep brain rot.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The West is weak. This guy should've been planted the moment he made a threat.

It's by design. Weaken from within. Those calling them "tin foilers" will wake up when it's already too late.

Cuntinive dissonance.

 

[ADiTAR]

Who wrote this? Can't get more opaque than that. What they (anti-Semitics) have is a deep brain rot.

https://amirpars.substack.com/p/confessions-of-a-former-antisemite

 

[Dirk Benedict]

I'm going to get a little political with my answer, but not in a way that praises one party over another. The general conservative response to "why am I not successful?" has been "bootstraps." "You are not successful because you haven't tried hard enough or worked hard enough. There are plenty of success stories out there, so why not you? It must be your fault."

DEI changes the source of blame from "you are to blame" to "society is to blame," at least for everyone on the planet other than white men. "You are not successful because of systemic racism. You are not successful because white privilege. You are not successful because of sexism." And if you are a white male (or a Jewish, it would seem), society isn't to blame of course, and we're right back to blaming you for your failure.

If you're paying attention, the end result is the exact same thing. Shift the blame from corporations who don't pay well enough, massive retailers like Amazon who have destroyed countless businesses, wealthy liberal zip codes that don't share their taxes with neighboring schools (not that conservatives do this either), a government that doesn't try to improve education and helps companies outsource our jobs, etc.

And if DEI actually brought people of various races together in unity and mutual friendship and respect, instead of just proximity, it wouldn't be anywhere in corporate America, because it would make workers much more likely to unionize. It's been shown that DEI actually has the opposite effect. The more racially and culturally diverse a company is, the less likely they are to unionize. Kind of ironic, isn't it?

And that's why it has been so deeply entrenched. Because it allows rich and powerful liberals to pass the blame, just as rich and powerful conservatives have done for decades.

Because if you're Amazon and you embrace DEI, you can tell you employees you won't pay for their Covid sick leave anymore, and you can turn a blind eye to your employees peeing in bottles to keep to your absurd delivery schedule, and you can slander and intimidate anyone trying to organize your workforce, all while getting a great ESG score that says you're an ethical company that people should invest in.

And that's what DEI is ultimately. Nice cheap words.




You might have to scroll a bit to get to the rest of the twitter thread, but there are plenty of examples given.


It makes sense that there would be so many Jewish liberals. Jews have been persecuted throughout their existence, and the claim is that liberals care more about that sort of thing. And it's true that liberal thought is historically to thank for a lot of important progress made in society. But right now Jewish people are quickly learning where they've been placed into a modern intersectional victim hierarchy without their consent or approval, and I think they're starting to wake up to how illiberal and ultimately destructive all of this really is.

We're always teetering on the edge of politics, here.... but LIberalism in its modern form is very negative and detrimental to Western Values and our way of life. I see it as just that.
It tosses aside logic, reason, facts for pure chemically driven-emotional-decision.

 

[tommib]

I was reading the Wikipedia page for Hezbollah and noticed a recent edit:

If you follow the conversation on edits, this is where we are:

"Butler was asked whether the left could support Hamas and Hezbollah. She responded that "understanding Hamas, Hezbollah as social movements that are progressive, that are on the left, that are part of the global left, is extremely important." It was possible, she added, to see them this way while being critical of "certain dimensions" of them. She has since insisted that fury at her remarks decontextualizes them. ...
To critics of her claim that Hamas and Hezbollah were part of a "global left," she replies, "My first point was merely descriptive: those political organizations define themselves as anti-imperialist, and anti-imperialism is one characteristic of the global left." Declaring herself this time against both violent resistance and the state, a seemingly pacifist stance, she insisted that she never actually took a position. "To say that those organizations belong to the left is not to say that they should belong or that I endorse or support them in any way" [emphasis in the original]. ... Slavoj Žižek, himself anti-Zionist, has written against leftists prone to "an all- too-easy and uncritical acceptance of anti-American and anti-Western groups as representing 'progressive' forms of struggle, as automatic allies: groups like Hamas and Hezbollah all of a sudden appear as revolutionary agents, even though their ideology is explicitly anti-modern, rejecting the entire egalitarian legacy of the French revolution." He does not name Butler, but this remark seems an obvious rebuttal of her."

If anyone had any doubts that the left will stop at nothing to bring down the west, think again. The global left is more than willing to sacrifice modernity, universalism and the French Revolution in exchange of the fall of the west and a reset. If people have been shocked with the pro-Hamas intelectual academia and Gen Z this shitshow will enter a whole new level with pro-Hezbollah support.

This is Hezbollah in 2023:

Hezbollah chief in new attack on same-sex relations

The leader of Lebanon's powerful Hezbollah movement on Saturday stepped up his attacks against the region's long-marginalised LGBTQ community.

www.france24.com

They’ll sacrifice everyone’s rights.

 

[EviLore]

They cited Judith Butler. lol

 

[tommib]

They cited Judith Butler. lol

Which proves how perverse the academia is. A gender studies “philosopher” willing to energise the “social justice militants” of Hezbollah.

Maybe I’m taking this too seriously but isn’t it concerning that Gen Z has been the subject of these unholy theories and pacts with the devil? I think the only solution is to keep discrediting the American left academia to the point of irrelevance.

 

[EviLore]

Which proves how perverse the academia is. A gender studies “philosopher” willing to energise the “social justice militants” of Hezbollah.

Maybe I’m taking this too seriously but isn’t it concerning that Gen Z has been the subject of these unholy theories and pacts with the devil? I think the only solution is to keep discrediting the American left academia to the point of irrelevance.

The changes probably won't stay intact, kick back and let the wikinerds sort it out.

 

[belmarduk]

It will never not be funny watching the same people who ran around calling everyone under the sun nazis now calling for the extermination of jews

That’s not funny at all. Nobody should be doing this.

 

[ADiTAR]

This is where we are today and AG explains it very well. People at the top, progressives and neo-liberals I'll call them (not classic), think minorities don't have any agency and can't make decisions, take initiative, anything. They want to pander these people because in their mind they are better than them and much much smarter.

 

[Happosai]

https://amirpars.substack.com/p/confessions-of-a-former-antisemite

Wow, there's so much here in reading that I'd recommend it to everyone. This caught me though because it stood during WWll and still holds today:

In contrast, look at the percentages of Jewish Nobel Prize winners (from Wikipedia):

• Chemistry: 36 (19% of total)
• Economics: 38 (41% of total)
• Literature: 16 (13% of total)
• Physics: 56 (25% of total)
• Physiology or Medicine: 59 (26% of total)

This despite the fact that Jews make up 0.76% of the Muslim-, and 0.19% of the global population.

So, why hate Jews? When proportionally, they have gifted the world with more riches in science, literature and economics than the rest of the human civilisation combined?

Because they are Jews.

 

[Happosai]

This is where we are today and AG explains it very well. People at the top, progressives and neo-liberals I'll call them (not classic), think minorities don't have any agency and can't make decisions, take initiative, anything. They want to pander these people because in their mind they are better than them and much much smarter.

This has been a problem in the West which has been growing rapidly over the past 15-years. Yes, progressive socialism existed prior. However, social media and I'll add the teachings from certain universities have allowed it to spread like a disease. You show a socialist a real world problem like this anti-Jew / anti-Israel propaganda or the terrorist attacks on the 7th and they'll say "they're oppressors, not victims." Show them someone who has different skin yet lives in a middle class first world society or a person 'bullied for being overweight' and those to these progressives are the true victims. That's how twisted our society has become. Gender issues are a bigger world problem to Westerners than mass genocide in Israel, anti-Semitic attacks worldwide and the fact that we have a UN which lauds terrorists but ignores Israel. That's why the further this goes on, it certainly shows me that this isn't all just Islam fueling the anti-Jew hate; it's also the acceptance, embracing and practice of socialism in Western countries. The inability of normal people (some who hold doctorates) who cannot distinguish the evil against Israel as a problem but have built a career around protecting people who feel uncomfortable with 'gender struggles'.

It's not the world I grew up in. I've never liked partisan divide in the U.S., but I'd take that over this socialist agenda any day. Some are dividing that as partisan but it's too deep to simply be political. It's eaten away the morals, infrastructure and integrity of nations. It causes those wrapped up in it to ignore or hate 'real' dangers in the world today. Or to see those things which are wrong and defend wrong. Because the wrong is weak, the wrong is opposed and the wrong needs social justice...

 

[Thaedolus]

I can’t take credit for this but I agree with the point: Hamas is really missing out on some good PR by not denouncing the freeway protestors. That’s an easy W you dumb fucks, tell the whole world there’s a bridge too far even for you.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Wow, there's so much here in reading that I'd recommend it to everyone. This caught me though because it stood during WWll and still holds today:

In contrast, look at the percentages of Jewish Nobel Prize winners (from Wikipedia):

• Chemistry: 36 (19% of total)
• Economics: 38 (41% of total)
• Literature: 16 (13% of total)
• Physics: 56 (25% of total)
• Physiology or Medicine: 59 (26% of total)

This despite the fact that Jews make up 0.76% of the Muslim-, and 0.19% of the global population.

So, why hate Jews? When proportionally, they have gifted the world with more riches in science, literature and economics than the rest of the human civilisation combined?

Because they are Jews.

Where are those movie tidal waves when you need one?

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Wow, there's so much here in reading that I'd recommend it to everyone. This caught me though because it stood during WWll and still holds today:

In contrast, look at the percentages of Jewish Nobel Prize winners (from Wikipedia):

• Chemistry: 36 (19% of total)
• Economics: 38 (41% of total)
• Literature: 16 (13% of total)
• Physics: 56 (25% of total)
• Physiology or Medicine: 59 (26% of total)

This despite the fact that Jews make up 0.76% of the Muslim-, and 0.19% of the global population.

So, why hate Jews? When proportionally, they have gifted the world with more riches in science, literature and economics than the rest of the human civilisation combined?

Because they are Jews.

Because in life, low brow people dont like academic people.

Its no different than the typical jocks and skipping classers in high school ragging on kids who wanna get good grades and go to university to pursue a career.

And if you look at countries and groups of people who excel at academics, their demographics typically show they do well holistically and in the long run in terms of education, jobs, economics and low crime and acts of stupidity.

That's why IMO I've said many times that a focus on school and work works wonders. Not even just for personal reasons like keeping busy and making some cash, but the society as a whole prospers. Give it some time and even a poor place like Singapore (which I dont think anyone keeps track they were a poor place 70 years ago) can morph into a highly respectable economic powerhouse with only 5M people. There's poor people there too. It's not like every person lives in an expensive condo with a high paying job. But when you got a society that respects each other and a gov that can keep things under control, things can change for the better fast (in terms of how fast countries move. Not expecting things to change overnight).

You typically need a combo of good gov to set the foundation, paired with people who have ambition to strive for betterment to get a good country. Once they lack one or both of those, they're screwed. Just look at all the oil rich countries which you'd think should lead to the best quality of life ever for every citizen. Oozing oil revenue every second. Instead, some of those countries seem like it's dog shit over there. Somehow the oil money disappeared.

 

[LordOfChaos]

The cops got a life threat and just stood there like uhh aren't we supposed to be the authority? What do you do when you're so outnumbered by so much "peace" I guess.

 

[ADiTAR]

The cops got a life threat and just stood there like uhh aren't we supposed to be the authority? What do you do when you're so outnumbered by so much "peace" I guess.

You call for more police and throw these fuckers in jail.

 

[Happosai]

Where are those movie tidal waves when you need one?

Wasn't Netflix or one of the larger streaming platforms also spitting out a WWll doc every year just a short time ago? Theatrical release movies the same seemed to be telling 'the one story from the war no one's heard yet'. Now, complete silence when this would be their big op to say something. Think a movie was made about the terrorist attacks in France too. Hollywood, nor the polarized streaming services want to touch this issue as they fear words like: islamaphobia.

Because in life, low brow people envy academic people.

Its no different than the typical jocks and skipping classers in high school ragging on kids who wanna get good grades and go to university to pursue a career.

And if you look at countries and groups of people who excel at academics, their demographics typically show they do well holistically and in the long run in terms of education, jobs, economics and low crime and acts of stupidity.

That's why IMO I've said many times that a focus on school and work works wonders. Not even just for personal reasons like keeping busy and making some cash, but the society as a whole prospers. Give it some time and even a poor place like Singapore (which I dont think anyone keeps track they were a poor place 70 years ago) can morph into a highly respectable economic powerhouse with only 5M people. There's poor people there too. It's not like every person lives in an expensive condo with a high paying job. But when you got a society that respects each other and a gov that can keep things under control, things can change for the better fast (in terms of how fast countries move. Not expecting things to change overnight).

You typically need a combo of good gov to set the foundation, paired with people who have ambition to strive for betterment to get a good country. Once they lack one or both of those, they're screwed. Just look at all the oil rich countries which you'd think should lead to the best quality of life ever for every citizen. Oozing oil revenue every second. Instead, some of those countries seem like it's dog shit over there. Somehow the oil money disappeared.

Right there in the first sentence. Corrected that a bit for you but that sums every preceding paragraph up. Anyone with a spirit of defeat will envy those who succeed. We used to call them losers but today losers are the victims and deserve to be placed on top. Those who succeeded that they envied (like Jews) are put to shame, hated and shunned.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Wasn't Netflix or one of the larger streaming platforms also spitting out a WWll doc every year just a short time ago? Theatrical release movies the same seemed to be telling 'the one story from the war no one's heard yet'. Now, complete silence when this would be their big op to say something. Think a movie was made about the terrorist attacks in France too. Hollywood, nor the polarized streaming services want to touch this issue as they fear words like: islamaphobia.

Right there in the first sentence. Corrected that a bit for you but that sums every preceding paragraph up. Anyone with a spirit of defeat will envy those who succeed. We used to call them losers but today losers are the victims and deserve to be placed on top. Those who succeeded that they envied (like Jews) are put to shame, hated and shunned.

Islamophobia? What’s so scary about being beheaded for criticising Islam? or being thrown off a building for being gay? Or being publicly flogged for indecency? Or being forced to cover your entire body because Muslim men can’t control their jealousy and sexual violence?

Just wholesome Islamic values, nothing to be afraid of.

 

[Happosai]

Islamophobia? What’s so scary about being beheaded for criticising Islam? or being thrown off a building for being gay? Or being publicly flogged for indecency? Or being forced to cover your entire body because Muslim men can’t control their jealousy and sexual violence?

Just wholesome Islamic values, nothing to be afraid of.

Well, it's certainly scary when those 'values' are what top figures in politics, media, entertainment, in universities are hoisting as righteous causes. Yet, the same clowns look at the success of Israel, Jews worldwide and everything before/after the 7th of October as justified. The moment Western society started coddling Islam as 'the victim' is the same moment the snake trainer coddles a Forest Cobra as it bites into his arm. Where did things get so backwards?

 

[Lord Panda]

In Australia, there's an increasing call for Israel to agree to a ceasefire. This situation is deeply infuriating to me.

A ceasefire should include specific terms: the release of all hostages, an unconditional surrender by Hamas, and accountability for any entities that supported Hamas, whether intentionally or inadvertently. How would anything else even be acceptable to Israel.

 

[T-0800]

In Australia, there's an increasing call for Israel to agree to a ceasefire. This situation is deeply infuriating to me.

A ceasefire should include specific terms: the release of all hostages, an unconditional surrender by Hamas, and accountability for any entities that supported Hamas, whether intentionally or inadvertently. How would anything else even be acceptable to Israel.

As an Australian why should Israel care what some idiots here have to say?

 

[tommib]

The Houthis are an Iranian puppet and are at war with Saudi Arabia.

Houthi–Saudi Arabian conflict - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[daffyduck]

The cops got a life threat and just stood there like uhh aren't we supposed to be the authority? What do you do when you're so outnumbered by so much "peace" I guess.

Apparently it was directed at someone the police were shielding. So perfectly acceptable then. :/

 

[ADiTAR]

This is hard to listen to because his voice is gone, but he's in total disbelief that she keeps blaming Israel. Everything he says is true, it also doesn't make any sense of why tf should Israel even give Gaza anything. It's an absurd notion that we owe them anything once we left in 2005. No country in the world owes a neighboring country food, water, electricity.



In regards to Australia, and whoever calls for ceasefire, they can all go fuck themselves. If any country in the world had this happen to them they would nuke the fucking place.

 

[Kar]

This is hard to listen to because his voice is gone, but he's in total disbelief that she keeps blaming Israel. Everything he says is true, it also doesn't make any sense of why tf should Israel even give Gaza anything. It's an absurd notion that we owe them anything once we left in 2005. No country in the world owes a neighboring country food, water, electricity.



In regards to Australia, and whoever calls for ceasefire, they can all go fuck themselves. If any country in the world had this happen to them they would nuke the fucking place.

He’s completely right.
One thing is bothering me, I always hear this blockade talking point, that Israel has complete control over all of Gaza. How can this be true if Gaza has a border with Egypt?

 

[Lord Panda]

As an Australian why should Israel care what some idiots here have to say?

Because some of these idiots are part of the Government.

 

[MrA]

My god, they're huge.

Edit: also, how can a human being support Hamas? They're brazen murderers, rapists, and torturers. This world makes no sense.

Because in life, low brow people dont like academic people.

Its no different than the typical jocks and skipping classers in high school ragging on kids who wanna get good grades and go to university to pursue a career.

And if you look at countries and groups of people who excel at academics, their demographics typically show they do well holistically and in the long run in terms of education, jobs, economics and low crime and acts of stupidity.

That's why IMO I've said many times that a focus on school and work works wonders. Not even just for personal reasons like keeping busy and making some cash, but the society as a whole prospers. Give it some time and even a poor place like Singapore (which I dont think anyone keeps track they were a poor place 70 years ago) can morph into a highly respectable economic powerhouse with only 5M people. There's poor people there too. It's not like every person lives in an expensive condo with a high paying job. But when you got a society that respects each other and a gov that can keep things under control, things can change for the better fast (in terms of how fast countries move. Not expecting things to change overnight).

You typically need a combo of good gov to set the foundation, paired with people who have ambition to strive for betterment to get a good country. Once they lack one or both of those, they're screwed. Just look at all the oil rich countries which you'd think should lead to the best quality of life ever for every citizen. Oozing oil revenue every second. Instead, some of those countries seem like it's dog shit over there. Somehow the oil money disappeared.

South Korea was also poor 70 years ago,

He’s completely right.
One thing is bothering me, I always hear this blockade talking point, that Israel has complete control over all of Gaza. How can this be true if Gaza has a border with Egypt?

Or that Israel didn't capture Gaza from the Palestinians, but from Jordan and Egypt who had conquered the area

 

[T-0800]

Because some of these idiots are part of the Government.

Of course they are.

 

[ADiTAR]

I have things to say but I prob shouldn't.

 

[Dice]

Like all of Hamas, can't be allowed. No country on earth would allow this to persist right next to them in the hands of people who want them dead. Also clearly "nowhere to go from the bombs" was/is absolute bullshit. Hamas kept everyone on the surface.

 

[Dr.Guru of Peru]

My goodness. You're just like that other guy in the thread. Firsr of all, I travel the world...I've gone through the visa process. That's not at all what I was talking about with background check. I made it very clear I was referring to customs giving extra background checks to people entering the U.S. or anywhere else right there at the airport. Not talking TSA pat down before you twist it into that. They could be background checked during the visa process, get a visa issued, not go through a more thorough check AGAIN upon arriving in the U.S. (or elsewhere where they are risk) and pull a Muhammed Atta. Then again, I didn't have high hopes you've read anything I wrote given I wrote that in November and it's December 17th.

As I stated before, if you're going to derail, I'm not continuing this with you in January 2024.

If Western media wanted to redeem themselves for demonizing IDF, encouraging anti-Semite groups or just having ignored every; footage like this would be it. If the world saw this coupled with the video of Hamas stealing 'relief' money; people will ask how these poor terrorists were able to afford spending on such a project. Look no further than the UN among many others who've funded this without getting charged for their part in funding the terror attacks and Hamas.

Sounds like you want more security theatre performed at the airport to make you feel safe. Why do you think a background check performed on the fly at the airport would be superior to the one already performed when they applied for their visa?

 

[ADiTAR]

This is a bombshell. A definite clear message to the world of who Hamas is and why there's no stopping to this war.

 

[winjer]

This is a bombshell. A definite clear message to the world of who Hamas is and why there's no stopping to this war.

Is there a version with English subs?

 

[Riptastic]

Is there a version with English subs?

Yes in the thread