Topher
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China Calls for Israel-Hamas Ceasefire
Beijing repeated its support for a “two-state solution,” calling it the fundamental way out of the conflict.time.com
"China calls for a ceasefire".
Oh good.....that'll do it.
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Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war
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Oh good.....that'll do it.
i do not want to get hit with the hammer so last thing i will say is its a waste of money
It's also for Hezbollah as they are gonna start an attack from the North.
Have you been living under the rock since forever? Are you completely oblivious of Arab-Israel history? You will hardly find any kind support of jewish people amongst muslims regardless of circumstances.
Topher
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Waste of money? Isn't like that aircraft carrier was sitting in ocean doing nothing dude. Situations like this are why the US has aircraft carriers in the first place.
Israel will handle it pragmatically but between the population density and the propensity of Hamas fighters to dress like civilians and use them as shields, there will be civilian casualties. Hamas propaganda will likely galvanize the civilians to resist instead of comply.
The best recourse those in Gaza had was in risking their own lives to destroy Hamas before an external power was forced to do so.
Mohonky
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Like I said, pre-emptive. I'm more surprised Hezbollah haven't hit yet. I suspected Hamas to be the one to draw IDF forces South, only for Hezbollah to come in from the North, thankfully hasn't hit as hard as expected.
But military presence from the US is to appease local US stakeholders and to prevent other nations from joining the fray. Hezbollah getting involved would be the least surprising given their frequent incursions similar to Hamas but not really being an actual national force.
Apocryphon
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The assumption that Israel isn’t ready to martyr their own people to protect the sovereignty of the nation and prevent further Israeli deaths is naïveté at it’s best.
Even after all this time, Hamas fails to understand its enemy.
More of an excuse to behead people on camera under the pretense of righteousness.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The 2010's was a decent into shit from a high pedestal.
as it got worse as the decade went on, the 2020's didn't have a chance.
Jinzo Prime
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Also Supremacy Clause. Treaties are on the same level as the Constitution and Federal law. I think we are legally obligated to provide support.
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Apocryphon
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It’s probably safe to assume that some have already been killed and that videos are ready to go. Pray their media wing gets annihilated along with the rest of their ratholes.
Yeah, yeah. You probably think that helping Ukraine is also a waste of money.
Topher
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Yeah....I mean, this is urban warfare. Civilian casualties will happen regardless. Hamas being the cowards that they are and putting their own people in harms way is part of that. That's just an unfortunate reality. I think what J JimmyRustler is saying is simply that Israel should not adopt the tenets of Hamas and call for the eradication of every soul in Gaza. Thankfully, Israel's rage is directed squarely at Hamas. All we can do really is hope and pray for the innocents that are put in harms way. But war is war.
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FunkMiller
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Being anti religion is not bigotry, dumbass. It's being critical of those who engage in bigotry. No atheist ever feels any animosity towards religious people, but very definitely reserves the right to be deeply critical of the religions themselves. You might as well call someone a bigot for being anti-government.
Also: how about not wading into to defend religion in a thread all about women being raped and babies being slaughtered in its name, eh?
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that is a bad thing imo.
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How fucking retarded one needs to be, to think that weakening/defating one of your main adversaries while spending peanuts money, and doing that without own troops is a waste of money?
Israel is telling Hezbollah that US will use it's naval force, and Asad in Syria won't be safe either.
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Mohonky
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I'm genuinely curious as to what the IDF do. They can't stop Hamas. Hamas is just an idea the same as any other terrorist organization. You can call it anything you want, but there will always be a terror element in Gaza prepared to fire rockets into Israel and carry out any other form of attack they can. They can't occupy the entire place, they'll come under near constant skirmishes and hit and run attacks in an area that is just too densely populated to control and maintain.
I'm almost curious as to whether they don't push Gaza into the the Sinai and use the current Gaza strip as a buffer zone.
I'm almost curious as to whether they don't push Gaza into the the Sinai and use the current Gaza strip as a buffer zone.
FunkMiller
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Help Ukraine = weaken Russian = weaken Iran = weaken Hamas = prevents further atrocities of this kind.
LordCBH
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Part of me is wondering if Israel might dip into their extensive nuclear arsenal at some point.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
Wtf no. That is like the worst thing they could do.
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Topher
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The guy is clearly one of these isolationist types who believe the wolves will never be at America's door. Was 9/11 really so long ago?
Lukaku's First Touch
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Yep, I expect those kind of videos with the hostages to surface when the full assault begins.
Kenpachii
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They should keep bombing and kill everything in sight until they do. No more few bombs. Every death on the palistinia side or whatever they are called, is on hamas.
TheInfamousKira
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Nuclear deterrence is designed in such a way that if one pops off, the human race will basically chain react themselves into extinction. The Minute one person tests the validity of the theory is the moment the whole thing falls apart. Hope not.
FunkMiller
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It's fucking weird. No country on this earth is barricaded off from the rest of them. America first and only isn't a real thing.
winjer
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I'm not versed in Jewish history. But as far as I understand, Jews have been living in that area for over 2 thousand years.
But they have been persecuted, expelled or killed by several invasions. For example, the Roman empire. And the Muslims invasions in the VII century. And the Ottoman empire. Maybe you'll know more about this, than I do.
So when the extreme left tries to portray the Jewish people as some sort of invaders, that is not an accurate representation. In fact, it's very misleading.
DragoonKain
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I've noticed people simping for Hamas are almost always people who have an "oppression olympics" belief system/world view. I don't think it's a coincidence, I think it's very much directly linked.
Once you adopt that belief system, you start to believe that the only way to make up for past injustices is future injustices. Once you do that, you're basically foregoing morality at that point. You noticed this in 2020 when a lot of these same people were applauding innocent people having their businesses and restaurants destroyed and burned because "What do you expect these people to do? They're angry and they want justice."
The question is: once someone adopts this world view, is there any coming back from it? This isn't changing your opinions on nuclear energy. That really doesn't involve morality, at least not nearly to this degree. Once you turn off your own morality to where you're willing to accept violence and terror, are you too far gone? If so, we're in a lot of trouble, because unfortunately a lot of people have adopted this oppression olympics belief system. And genuinely believe that someone's identity alone makes support for them necessary, and they're not to be judged on their actions. I still believe the oppression olympics crowd is a minority, but there's more people who think this way today than there were 10 years ago, that's for damn sure.
Once you adopt that belief system, you start to believe that the only way to make up for past injustices is future injustices. Once you do that, you're basically foregoing morality at that point. You noticed this in 2020 when a lot of these same people were applauding innocent people having their businesses and restaurants destroyed and burned because "What do you expect these people to do? They're angry and they want justice."
The question is: once someone adopts this world view, is there any coming back from it? This isn't changing your opinions on nuclear energy. That really doesn't involve morality, at least not nearly to this degree. Once you turn off your own morality to where you're willing to accept violence and terror, are you too far gone? If so, we're in a lot of trouble, because unfortunately a lot of people have adopted this oppression olympics belief system. And genuinely believe that someone's identity alone makes support for them necessary, and they're not to be judged on their actions. I still believe the oppression olympics crowd is a minority, but there's more people who think this way today than there were 10 years ago, that's for damn sure.
Alebrije
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This is not Fallout 76
a Nuclear strike would hurt Israel too, my bet is that they will invade Palestina , get rid of most of Hamas militia and then leave...
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IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
*smh* Really?
No because that would be insane and also hurt Israel.
If it was a greater distance and Israel would be unaffected, then that would still be insane.
ChuckeRearmed
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History tells us that no. I mean, all the conflicts in the world essentially can be traced back to some justification from centuries ago. "Revenge for this", "Revenge for that", "Unfair treatment" and stuff like that.
The thing is that, the jews is not unique case in that regard. A lot of nations and cultures were completely erased or eradicated and their identities were lost. Who remembers ostrogoths? Alans? Scythians? Sumerians? Hittites?
But what is unique, is that they were able to preserve their identity from thousand of years ago in more or way documented way with a direct lineage. We have information from thousand and thousand years ago.
Like for example Babylonian captivity happened like around 600BC. Before Roman empire even was a thing. Or for example exodus happened around 1300BC (and even before the Bronze Age Collapse so Mycenaean culture and Hittites were a thing) and 700 years before babylonian captivity.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
They won't. It would be completely idiotic and counterproductive in about a dozen different ways.
Slicker than your average
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double clown act detected.
I told you guys it wouldn't take long. a few pages back this idiot was promoting forced displacement of people. Now hes advocating for the entire region and its 2.3 million to be vaporized.
They just cant contain themselves when they think they get a free pass.
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Every innocent Israeli woman or child killed on a video stream will only make Israel more determined to exterminate these cockroaches.
It will also mean thousands of Gaza civilians will die as collateral damage. It's going to be an absolute blood bath.
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Kenpachii
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i offered a solution for the conflict, u didn't.
I don't talk about deleting all the people over there, i talk about deleting hamas, if they hide behind the people and those people do absolute jack shit about it, then its hamas to blame for there deaths.
U think this shit is going to stop with hamas? 1000+ people already died on the side of isreal, what's next? a raid that kills 10k of them? u can bet your arse iran is already mass producting 10th fold amounts of rockets for there next attack.
The only clowns here are people that sit on there ass pretending, doing nothing is going to solve this.
If the people in gaza don't want to life together with isrealiers then they are free to fuck off to another place that fits them. Which is iran.
Slicker than your average
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thank god they don't read gaf. We've got multiple genocide suggestions and nuclear options.
Happosai
Hold onto your panties
FullMetalx117
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Not true, most normal Muslim people don't give a shit. Seriously
LordCBH
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I didn’t say they should, you fucking twit. I wondered if they would.
funkygunther
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of course they won’t, they probably know where Gaza is on a map
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