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Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war
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Madserb2023
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You are like the Japanese. They never apologized for raping 100,000s of children during WW2 because it war and all that.
winjer
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What? Did you quote the wrong person?
And still no links? show me the receipts. I wanna see where Israel specifically just targeted civilians for no reason, and snipers shooting people going across invisible red lines.
Oh, so they should've waited a year and then strike. Yeah, I hope you're not a head of state.
Madserb2023
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Not you, the person you qoute
Yes, sorry. I meant to reply to the person you quoted. You seem sane.
kruis
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The Israel military doesn't issue warnings before a bombing anymore.
Senior Israeli source: Gaza will not be Hamastan; ‘roof knocking’ policy no longer norm
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www.timesofisrael.com
When a bomb hits, people are unprepared and there are god knows how many civilian victims amidst the destruction. I've linked the tweet below for the video. Warning: it's graphic. There are at least 20+ dead bodies in this three minute video.
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Dice
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The Israel military doesn't issue warnings before a bombing anymore.
Senior Israeli source: Gaza will not be Hamastan; ‘roof knocking’ policy no longer norm
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When a bomb hits, people are unprepared and there are god knows how many civilian victims amidst the destruction. I've linked the tweet below for the video. Warning: it's graphic. There are at least 20+ dead bodies in this three minute video.
Israel still does that, I have no idea who the idiot they quoted there. And if it is true, only started after this massacre.
Not only that but this, Israel literally giving people instruction of where to go:
When People Tell You Who They Are, Believe Them
This is what ‘decolonization’ really looks like. Look carefully at who is cheering it on.
www.thefp.com
When People Tell You Who They Are, Believe Them
This is what ‘decolonization’ really looks like. Look carefully at who is cheering it on.By Bari Weiss
October 10, 2023
At the end of the Second World War, it took the Allies months, if not years, to uncover the full scale of Germany’s war crimes. That’s because the Nazis tried to hide them.
In October 2023, Hamas broadcast what they did—what they are doing—in real time.
They took horrific videos to document and share it all. Videos of naked women; of a captured six-year-old-boy; of beheaded soldiers.
This young woman—her name is Mor—learned that her grandmother had been slaughtered because a terrorist took her grandmother’s cell phone, filmed her murder, and then uploaded the video to the grandmother’s own Facebook page, ensuring her family would see it.
Now they are threatening to execute the hostages they have captured on live television.
It’s as if the Cossacks had TikTok.
On the one hand I think: surely this will be sufficient. Surely this amount of blood will be enough to shake the world awake. Surely no one can equivocate or justify this. As my friend Sarah Haider wrote, “How easy is it to simply condemn targeted violence against civilians? Can there be a lower bar?”
And yet, across the world, people have sunk below it.
Here you can watch people gathered at the Sydney Opera House cheering “gas the Jews” and “death to the Jews.” People are rejoicing in the slaughter on the streets of Berlin and London and Toronto and New York.
At our most prestigious universities there is silence from administrations that leapt to speak out on George Floyd’s killing and on the war in Ukraine. (Indeed, Meantime, the social justice crowd offers explanations for the massacre—a massacre that, in part, targeted a group of progressive Israelis at a music festival. Terrorists came to that festival on paragliders carrying machine guns to start their slaughter. They raped women there next to the dead bodies of their friends.
In that way, as Free Press editor and writer Peter Savodnik explains in our second piece in today’s digest, the last few days have been extremely clarifying.
Because now we know.
Now we know who would have looked at Jews shoved onto cattle cars and said, “Well, they did undermine the German economy.” Those are the people today saying: “This is a justified response to the provocation of Israel existing.” Now we know whose politics are rooted not in conservatism or liberalism or anything else other than simply hating Jews. Now we can see exactly how people manage to always come up with a reason for why the Jews deserved it.
The people cheering and waving flags are not celebrating Palestinian liberation. The Hamas attack that began on October 7 won’t lead to a free Palestine. Instead, it will lead—it is already leading—to a horrific escalation, with many more dead on both sides. The people cheering are celebrating death. I’m struck that American intellectuals are reprinting the picture of the paraglider as an image of liberation, like a hip new logo, that visual of death.
Hamas broadcast the slaughter. I thought it would be enough.
kruis
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How are people in Gaza supposed to get these messages when electricity has been shut off and internet connectivity has deteriorated fast?
Israel suspends supply of electricity, fuel, and goods to Gaza
"We are on the brink of an extended, challenging conflict," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared, amidst Israel's bold measures in response to rising tensions.
www.jpost.com
Gaza Strip experiencing internet outages and electricity cuts after bombings
As of Monday, eight of the primary internet service providers serving Gaza had little to no connectivity, according to a group that tracks internet censorship.
www.nbcnews.com
LimanimaPT
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Everybody knew what was coming, starting with Hamas. They don't give two shits about their own people.
funkygunther
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It was sent to them earlier + they are also dropping these in paper from the air (no jk)How are people in Gaza supposed to get these messages when electricity has been shut off and internet connectivity has deteriorated fast?
Israel suspends supply of electricity, fuel, and goods to Gaza
"We are on the brink of an extended, challenging conflict," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared, amidst Israel's bold measures in response to rising tensions.
Gaza Strip experiencing internet outages and electricity cuts after bombings
As of Monday, eight of the primary internet service providers serving Gaza had little to no connectivity, according to a group that tracks internet censorship.
Great, they should welcome the refugees.
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Kenpachii
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Pretty much what i think about those clown country's, send the refugee's there way.
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Topher
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He said that to PLA President Abbas. Perhaps being clever in sidestepping Gaza and Hamas.
‘Saudi stands by Palestinians,’ says Crown Prince amid escalating Israel-Gaza war
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas that he is with them and working to prevent 'an expansion' of conflict
www.businesstoday.in
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Bigbelly
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It’s insane how this is overlooked by so many people in the west. Guess they just swallow what ever MSM tells them.
Ah, important context yeah.He said that to PLA President Abbas. Perhaps being clever in sidestepping Gaza and Hamas.
‘Saudi stands by Palestinians,’ says Crown Prince amid escalating Israel-Gaza war
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas that he is with them and working to prevent 'an expansion' of conflict
Some people know this, the issue is Israeli's still vote for this.
Wildebeest
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Labour party conference in UK, Yvette Cooper, the shadow home secretary, says in her speech there is no place in the UK for support of proscribed terrorist organisations like Hamas and no place for antisemitism. This is really going to annoy the "not my Labour party any more" tankies.
CharmingCharlie
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Another fine upstanding humanitarian comes out in favour of the Palestinians ............. oh wait isn't this the guy that ordered the murder of a Journalist in the most sadistic way possible and had said journalist diced up. I think if I was Palestinian I would be imploring people to "shut the fuck up standing with palestine" cos the only people doing that seem to be the worst humanity has to offer.
gaming_again
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I wonder what the attendees will do with all their flags?
Wildebeest
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That faction is in exile, moaning with Corbyn in some dark room where no cameras are allowed.
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I don't see how the Hamas are actually helping the Palestines:
1. Hamas are attacking a military power here, Gaza will be decimated if this keeps up because Israel is going to retaliate a lot.
2. Hamas videoing massacres and possibly rape, this in turn will make ordinary folks go from "this is disgusting!" to "are all Palestinians like this?" to "I hate Palestinians".
1. Hamas are attacking a military power here, Gaza will be decimated if this keeps up because Israel is going to retaliate a lot.
2. Hamas videoing massacres and possibly rape, this in turn will make ordinary folks go from "this is disgusting!" to "are all Palestinians like this?" to "I hate Palestinians".
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Topher
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darrylgorn
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I agree with being against terrorism but I don't understand why there is no comment about the retaliation.
Why are leaders supporting killing innocent people?
Why are leaders supporting killing innocent people?
ChuckeRearmed
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Personally, I see no real reason for the prince to support Hamas. It is basically helps nobody except Iran.He said that to PLA President Abbas. Perhaps being clever in sidestepping Gaza and Hamas.
‘Saudi stands by Palestinians,’ says Crown Prince amid escalating Israel-Gaza war
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told Palestinian President Mahmud Abbas that he is with them and working to prevent 'an expansion' of conflict
Topher
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Because they know Hamas uses heavily populated civilian areas to operate from and utilize those civilians as human shields.
Wildebeest
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I don't really see any leaders celebrating this. Where is the evidence to back this up?
CharmingCharlie
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What is Israel supposed to do ? I don't like some of the shit I am seeing where innocents are being killed but this is on Hamas. They use civillians to sheild themselves, they put vital terrorist infrastruce righ in amongst civillian areas. This is all on Hamas, it is Hamas that carried out that brutal massacre, it is Hamas that is using civillians as sheilds. So all this innocent blood is on Hamas hands.
Brigandier
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There is no evidence of this, He's just making shit up.
DaleinCalgary
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Gaza soon will have no power to run towers or to charge phones. And Hamas didn't warning Israel before taking hostages and killing civilians,
MisterFalcon
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I suspect the lack of Patriot batteries being gifted to Hamas is seen as support.
DaleinCalgary
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Madserb2023
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People aren't. There is a difference, because Israel by the sheer odds of the density of Gaza will inadvertently kill civilians. They aren't thinking there are some rockets over there being fired from a building but the kids playing over there look like a better target.
winjer
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Unlike Hamas, Israel is not targeting civilians.
Israel warns the Palestinian population to evacuate before striking Hamas targets.
And let's not forget that it's Hamas that is using civilians as a meat shield.
Hamas not only is hurting the Israelian population, but it's also the Palestinian population.
FunkMiller
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One of the reasons I feel comfortable voting Labour again, for the first time in a very long time.
FunkMiller
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They're not. They've made a colossal miscalculation with these attacks.
All they've really accomplished is giving Israel an excuse to go into Gaza mob handed and wipe out Hamas - even if this means also killing an awful lot of the civilians that Hamas uses as human shields. This is the biggest provocation since the Yom Kippur War, and gives Israel carte blanche to a certain extent to enact revenge, and destabilise their enemy harder than ever before.
These are head chopping religious fanatics we're talking about. I doubt tactical genius is exactly one of their strengths, so none of this is a big surprise.
They *should* have only attacked military emplacements, if they wished to accomplish anything.
Mind you, they've been whipped up by Iran and Russia to do exactly these kinds of atrocities.Those two countries are the only real beneficiaries of all of this.
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The Jewish people are only allowed to lay down and be massacred into extinction, not defend themselves, according to worldviews that remain popular everywhere you look. Well, the Jewish people reject that premise and have the power to make their own decisions, knowing full well, better than any other group on this planet, how the other approach plays out.
Gaza, as controlled by Hamas, is a terrorist state with a genocidal charter that perpetrated crimes no different than ISIS. If the ISIS Caliphate invaded the United States, we would annihilate their infrastructure and exact a heavy toll. Civilians would not be targeted, but civilians would nevertheless be killed as a consequence of destroying the ISIS state, as there is no viable alternative when the terrorists are so firmly entrenched. The same applies here.
This is war, now.
Gaza, as controlled by Hamas, is a terrorist state with a genocidal charter that perpetrated crimes no different than ISIS. If the ISIS Caliphate invaded the United States, we would annihilate their infrastructure and exact a heavy toll. Civilians would not be targeted, but civilians would nevertheless be killed as a consequence of destroying the ISIS state, as there is no viable alternative when the terrorists are so firmly entrenched. The same applies here.
This is war, now.
darrylgorn
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Properly secure its borders, I would assume.
From what I understand, they are mounting a siege of the entire Gaza area though and have cut off all food and electricity. This is to say nothing of the disregard for their own civilians being held as hostages.
I'm no expert on genocide but that sounds a lot like genocide.
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All these Palestinian supporters on the street don't understand that Hamas did this to the Palestinians all by themselves. I think what's more insane is some people thinking Hamas ARE Palestine and are showing support for them not thinking that Hamas are Palestinians are SEPARATE.
It's like Iraq/Afghanistan and ISIS. You don't say every Iraqi is ISIS because of all the atrocities that ISIS do. We separate them because of common sense. Same in this situation.
Hamas did this all to the Palestinians and this will only end if the Palestinians stand up and say they've had enough and remove Hamas from the stranglehold they have on Palestine.
It's like Iraq/Afghanistan and ISIS. You don't say every Iraqi is ISIS because of all the atrocities that ISIS do. We separate them because of common sense. Same in this situation.
Hamas did this all to the Palestinians and this will only end if the Palestinians stand up and say they've had enough and remove Hamas from the stranglehold they have on Palestine.
winjer
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I'm not sure that Hamas miscalculated.
I actually think that Hamas wants an escalation of the conflict. They want more dead bodies, Israeli and Palestinian.
Hamas considers Palestinian dead civilians as a commodity in the blame game. They want to play the victim.
They knew this attack would have a retaliation. And they know that if they don't let the Palestinians evacuate before Israeli bombings, they get more dead bodies to pretend that they are the victim.
Yesterday, Hamas declared they wanted to negotiate a truce. This is because they know there is no way Israel can stop now. So once again, they pretend to play the victim game.
Topher
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No, it's war.
FunkMiller
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A man who had to barricade his family in his house in Israel for ten hours against the Hamas terrorists, puts a US senator in his place about the realties of both the Ukraine war and the Israel/Palestinian conflict:
funkygunther
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Israel get billions in military aid from USA every year
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