Raven117
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Hamas terrorists infiltrated Israel. 1400+ killed, 2400+ wounded, 240+ abducted. Israel declares war
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Go get'em.
Ogbert
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What we are witnessing is the entire moral and political landscape shifting.
This is as significant as 9/11. Without wishing to be trite, it obviously doesn’t have the same shocking spectacle to it, but it represents the same sensation of ‘before and after’.
The grift is over.
Ogbert
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Brigandier
Gold Member
I've been busy all day and have just spent the past hour or so catching up on today's events and I think it's safe to say I've totally given up on the human race...
Absolutely fucking disgraceful behaviour all over the world, marches and gatherings celebrating this attack screaming death to Jews gas the jews.... then the masses of apologists who talk total uneducated shit all over social media, Open support for these attacks and people saying Israel deserve it.
The whataboutism is off the charts, The human race has been poisoned by hatred beyond saving, We're all fucked... I feel depressed at the state of the world right now everyone hates each other and tensions are sky high over petty differences and disputes over things that are in the grand scheme of things not even important.
Yeah we're fucked totally finished as a species.
Absolutely fucking disgraceful behaviour all over the world, marches and gatherings celebrating this attack screaming death to Jews gas the jews.... then the masses of apologists who talk total uneducated shit all over social media, Open support for these attacks and people saying Israel deserve it.
The whataboutism is off the charts, The human race has been poisoned by hatred beyond saving, We're all fucked... I feel depressed at the state of the world right now everyone hates each other and tensions are sky high over petty differences and disputes over things that are in the grand scheme of things not even important.
Yeah we're fucked totally finished as a species.
DeepEnigma
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Tubby just needed to slip the wrong pronoun, then she would have been hauled away.
Vietnam didn't win against the US, north Vietnam won against South Vietnam and the nva and vietcong murdered civilians regularly ,
newtypepilot
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Trilobit
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A reminder to you and everyone in this thread to take a break off social media/news now and then. Maybe take a walk and play with your dog. I don't think it's healthy to get absorbed by the horrific events at play.
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
I've never felt that alienated from the people I've been calling friends for 10 years showing their asses both to my face, or on their socials. I am disgusted by how so many people that I've always considered normal are praising Hamas.
Just...I can't people. I CAN'T!
Just...I can't people. I CAN'T!
Send them this:
South First Responders
Channel for footage uploaded by first responders in the Gaza envelope that are arriving first to areas clear from Hamas.
t.me
On the other hand, now you really know them.
Act accordingly and cut them out of your life.
Brigandier
Gold Member
Indeed I'm totally discouraged right now, Social media does this to me so often I need to know my limits.
I'm in the same position with some people and it's disheartening.
Open letter to the Harvard Community
[Link to the letter: https://bit.ly/harvard-against-terrorism ]We are faculty at Harvard who are deeply concerned about the events in the Middle East, as well as the safety of our students here on campus. On October 7th, Hamas launched a premeditated attack on the Israeli population. Hundreds of terrorists infiltrated Israeli towns and houses. Children were killed in front of their parents; entire families were executed. Grandmothers, mothers, and their babies were kidnapped. All in all, more than 900 Israelis were killed in a single day and the death toll is continuing to grow. There have also been deaths on the Palestinian side, including hundreds of terrorists and, tragically, civilians as well.
Every innocent death is a tragedy. Yet, this should not mislead us to create false equivalencies between the actions leading to this loss. Hamas planned and executed the murder and kidnapping of civilians, particularly women, children, and the elderly, with no military or other specific objective. This meets the definition of a war crime. The Israeli security forces were engaging in self-defense against this attack while dealing with numerous hostage situations and a barrage of thousands of rockets hidden deliberately in dense urban settings.
The leaders of the major democratic countries united in saying that “the terrorist actions of Hamas have no justification, no legitimacy, and must be universally condemned” and that Israel should be supported “in its efforts to defend itself and its people against such atrocities.“ In contrast, while terrorists were still killing Israelis in their homes, 35 Harvard student organizations wrote that they hold “the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence,” with not a single word denouncing the horrific acts by Hamas. In the context of the unfolding events, this statement can be seen as nothing less than condoning the mass murder of civilians based only on their nationality. We’ve heard reports of even worse instances, with Harvard students celebrating the “victory” or “resistance” on social media.
As a University aimed at educating future leaders, this could have been a teaching moment and an opportunity to remind our students that beyond our political debates, some acts such as war crimes are simply wrong. However, the statement by Harvard’s administration fell short of this goal. While justly denouncing Hamas, it still contributed to the false equivalency between attacks on noncombatants and self-defense against those atrocities. Furthermore, the statement failed to condemn the justifications for violence that come from our own campus, nor to make it clear to the world that the statement endorsed by these organizations does not represent the values of the Harvard community. How can Jewish and Israeli students feel safe on a campus in which it is considered acceptable to justify and even celebrate the deaths of Jewish children and families?
We recognize that Harvard has students and community members from all regions, including from the Gaza Strip. These are not easy times, and we pray for the safety of all our members and their families. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict has a long and complex history. We hold varying opinions, but none of us endorses all of Israel's past actions. However, the events of this week are not complicated. Sometimes there is such a thing as evil, and it is incumbent upon educators and leaders to call it out, as they have with school shootings and terrorist attacks. It is imperative that our academic leadership, whose good faith we do not doubt, state this clearly and unequivocally. Further, while individuals’ free speech should be protected, our leaders should make it clear that our community rejects any statements that excuse terrorist acts.
We stand with any member of the Harvard community who feels unsafe or alone and pledge to do what we can individually and collectively. We hold our hope for better days in the future. To quote President Obama, “As we support Israel’s right to defend itself against terror, we must keep striving for a just and lasting peace for Israelis and Palestinians alike.”
Signatories
Anurag Anshu - Assistant Professor, SEAS
Michael Apstein, MD - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Sarah Ballou - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
liron bar-peled - Assistant Professor, HMS Medicine
Boaz Barak - Professor of Computer Science
Anke Becker - Assistent Professor, Harvard Business School
Shai Bernstein - Professor, Harvard Business School
Stephen Blacklow - Gustavus Adolphus Pfeiffer Professor and Chair, Harvard Medical School
Alan Bonder - GI faculty at BIDMC
Richard Born - Professor of Neurobiology, HMS
Fernando Camargo - Professor, Stem Cell and Regenerative Biology
Brendan Case - Lecturer, Harvard Divinity School
Elliot Chaikof - Johnson and Johnson Professor of Surgery, Harvard Medical School, Chair of Surgery, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
Adam Cheifetz - Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School
Marcy Cheifetz - Clinical Lecturer, Associate Site Director at Atrius Health for BIDMC HMS POM Course
Shaye J.D. Cohen - professor/NELC/
Flynn Cratty - Lecturer on History, History Department
Matthew Crowson, M.D. - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Myron Falchuk - Harvard Medical School
Gary Fleisher - Professor of Pediatrics, HMS/Children’s Hospital
Jeffrey Flier - Professor of Medicine and former Dean, Harvard Medical School
Sarah Flier - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Jonathan Frankle - Associate in Computer Science (SEAS)
Steven Freedman - Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School
Elizabeth Gaufberg - Associate Professor of Medicine and Psychiatry
Samuel Gershman - Professor of Psychology, FAS
Paul Gompers - Eugene Holman Professor, Harvard Business School
Jerry R. Green - Economics Department (FAS) and HBS
Michael E. Greenberg - Harvard Medical School
Jerome Groopman - Recanati Professor HMS
Barbara Grosz - Higgins Research Professor of Natural Sciences, SEAS
James Hankins - Professor of History
Elhanan Helpman - Galen L. Stone Professor of International Trade
Jennifer Hochschild - Professor, FAS
Stein B Jacobsen - Professor, Faculty of Arts and Sciences
Caroline Jouhourian, MD - HMFP
Barbara Kahn, MD - George Minot Professor, Harvard Medical School
Naama Kanarek - BCH, Assistant Professor
Robert S Kaplan - Senior Lecturer and Professor, Emeritus; Harvard Business School
Isaac Kohane - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Scott Duke Kominers - Professor of Business Administration, Harvard Business School
Petros Koumoutsakos - Professor, SEAS
Boris Kozinsky - Associate Professor, Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences
Gabriel Kreiman - Professor, Children's Hospital, Harvard Medical School
Josh Krieger - Associate Professor, Harvard Business School
Galit Lahav - Professor and Chair of Systems Biology, HMS
Andrew Lassar - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Daniel Leffler, MD - Associate Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School
Margo Levine - Co-Director of Undergraduate Studies, Applied Math, SEAS
Harry Lewis - Gordon McKay Research Professor of Computer Science, SEAS
Ofrit Liviatan - Lecturer, FAS Department of Government
Avi Loeb - Baird Professor of Science, Director of Institute for Theory & Computation, Harvard University
Bertha Madras - Professor of Psychiatry, McLean Hospital
Bertha Madras - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Eleftheria Maratos-Flier - Professor Emerita, Harvard Medical School
Richard J McNally - Professor, FAS
Simon C. Robson MD, PhD. - Professor of Anesthesia and Medicine
Douglas Pleskow MD - Harvard Medical School
Jeffrey Meyerhardt - Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Professor of Medicine
Matthew Meyerson - Professor of Genetics and Medicine, Harvard Medical School
James Moran - Professor, emeritus, FAS (astronomy dept)
Matthias Nahrendorf - Professor of Radiology, HMS
Kamila Naxerova - Harvard Medical School, Assistant Professor
Eric Nelson '99 - Robert M. Beren Professor of Government, FAS
Jennifer Oyler-Yaniv - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Alon Oyler-Yaniv - Lecturer in Systems Biology, Harvard Medical School
Eliezer Peli - Professor HMS
Lev Perelman - Professor, HMS
Rabbi Jonah Pesner - Visiting Scholar, Harvard Divinity School
Nate Jowett MD PhD - Assistant Professor of Otolaryngology - Head & Neck Surgery
Steven Pinker - Johnstone Family Professor of Psychology
Frederic Preffer - Professor of Pathollogy Harvard Medical School
Mark Ramseyer - Professor, Harvard Law School
Lisa Randall - Physics
Yogesh Rathi - Associate Professor, Department of Psychiatry and Radiology, Harvard Medical School
Michael S. Rogers - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Kenneth Rogoff - Professor FAS
Evan Rosen - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Gary Ruvkun - Professor of Genetics
Jeffrey E. Saffitz - Professor of Pathology, Harvard Medical School
Yael Hoffman Sage, MD MPH - Instructor, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Joshua R Sanes - Professor of Molecular and Cellular Biology
Clifford Saper - Professor, HMS
David Scadden - Professor of Medicine, HMS; Professor of Stem Cell and Regenerative Biology, FAS
Richard M. Schwartzstein, MD - Harvard Medical School, Professor of Medicine
Thomas Schwarz - Professor, Harvard Medical School and Boston Children's Hospital
Ayellet Segre - Assistant Professor, Department of Ophthalmology
Eugene Shakhnovich - Roy G Gordon Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Biology FAS
Irwin Shapiro - University Professor, FAS
Arlene Sharpe - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Steven Shoelson - Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School
Christine Smith - Robert C. and Marion K. Weinberg Professor of Architectural History, Graduate School of Design
Haim Sompolinsky - Professor of Physics and of Neuroscience (in Residence)
Lawerence H. Summers - Charles W. Eliot University Professor
Cliff Tabin - Professor and Chair of Genetics, Harvard Medical School
Daniel Talmor - HMS Edward Lowenstein Professor of Anaesthesia
Tomer Ullman - Assistant Professor, Department of Psychology
Charles CY Wang - Professor of Business Administration, Harvard Business School
Daniel Weinstock - Director for Master's Education, SEAS
Justin Werfel - Senior Research Fellow, SEAS
Christopher Winship - Diker-Tishman Professor of Sociology
Jacqueline Wolf - Associate Professor of Medicine; Harvard Medical School
Jeremy Wolfe - Professor of Ophthalmology and Radiology, Havard Medical School
Rabbi David Wolpe - Divinity School
Amir Yacoby - Professor of Physics and Applied Physics
Mark Zeidel - HMS
Michael Apstein, MD - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Sarah Ballou - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
liron bar-peled - Assistant Professor, HMS Medicine
Boaz Barak - Professor of Computer Science
Anke Becker - Assistent Professor, Harvard Business School
Shai Bernstein - Professor, Harvard Business School
Stephen Blacklow - Gustavus Adolphus Pfeiffer Professor and Chair, Harvard Medical School
Alan Bonder - GI faculty at BIDMC
Richard Born - Professor of Neurobiology, HMS
Fernando Camargo - Professor, Stem Cell and Regenerative Biology
Brendan Case - Lecturer, Harvard Divinity School
Elliot Chaikof - Johnson and Johnson Professor of Surgery, Harvard Medical School, Chair of Surgery, Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
Adam Cheifetz - Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School
Marcy Cheifetz - Clinical Lecturer, Associate Site Director at Atrius Health for BIDMC HMS POM Course
Shaye J.D. Cohen - professor/NELC/
Flynn Cratty - Lecturer on History, History Department
Matthew Crowson, M.D. - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Myron Falchuk - Harvard Medical School
Gary Fleisher - Professor of Pediatrics, HMS/Children’s Hospital
Jeffrey Flier - Professor of Medicine and former Dean, Harvard Medical School
Sarah Flier - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Jonathan Frankle - Associate in Computer Science (SEAS)
Steven Freedman - Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School
Elizabeth Gaufberg - Associate Professor of Medicine and Psychiatry
Samuel Gershman - Professor of Psychology, FAS
Paul Gompers - Eugene Holman Professor, Harvard Business School
Jerry R. Green - Economics Department (FAS) and HBS
Michael E. Greenberg - Harvard Medical School
Jerome Groopman - Recanati Professor HMS
Barbara Grosz - Higgins Research Professor of Natural Sciences, SEAS
James Hankins - Professor of History
Elhanan Helpman - Galen L. Stone Professor of International Trade
Jennifer Hochschild - Professor, FAS
Stein B Jacobsen - Professor, Faculty of Arts and Sciences
Caroline Jouhourian, MD - HMFP
Barbara Kahn, MD - George Minot Professor, Harvard Medical School
Naama Kanarek - BCH, Assistant Professor
Robert S Kaplan - Senior Lecturer and Professor, Emeritus; Harvard Business School
Isaac Kohane - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Scott Duke Kominers - Professor of Business Administration, Harvard Business School
Petros Koumoutsakos - Professor, SEAS
Boris Kozinsky - Associate Professor, Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences
Gabriel Kreiman - Professor, Children's Hospital, Harvard Medical School
Josh Krieger - Associate Professor, Harvard Business School
Galit Lahav - Professor and Chair of Systems Biology, HMS
Andrew Lassar - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Daniel Leffler, MD - Associate Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School
Margo Levine - Co-Director of Undergraduate Studies, Applied Math, SEAS
Harry Lewis - Gordon McKay Research Professor of Computer Science, SEAS
Ofrit Liviatan - Lecturer, FAS Department of Government
Avi Loeb - Baird Professor of Science, Director of Institute for Theory & Computation, Harvard University
Bertha Madras - Professor of Psychiatry, McLean Hospital
Bertha Madras - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Eleftheria Maratos-Flier - Professor Emerita, Harvard Medical School
Richard J McNally - Professor, FAS
Simon C. Robson MD, PhD. - Professor of Anesthesia and Medicine
Douglas Pleskow MD - Harvard Medical School
Jeffrey Meyerhardt - Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Professor of Medicine
Matthew Meyerson - Professor of Genetics and Medicine, Harvard Medical School
James Moran - Professor, emeritus, FAS (astronomy dept)
Matthias Nahrendorf - Professor of Radiology, HMS
Kamila Naxerova - Harvard Medical School, Assistant Professor
Eric Nelson '99 - Robert M. Beren Professor of Government, FAS
Jennifer Oyler-Yaniv - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Alon Oyler-Yaniv - Lecturer in Systems Biology, Harvard Medical School
Eliezer Peli - Professor HMS
Lev Perelman - Professor, HMS
Rabbi Jonah Pesner - Visiting Scholar, Harvard Divinity School
Nate Jowett MD PhD - Assistant Professor of Otolaryngology - Head & Neck Surgery
Steven Pinker - Johnstone Family Professor of Psychology
Frederic Preffer - Professor of Pathollogy Harvard Medical School
Mark Ramseyer - Professor, Harvard Law School
Lisa Randall - Physics
Yogesh Rathi - Associate Professor, Department of Psychiatry and Radiology, Harvard Medical School
Michael S. Rogers - Assistant Professor, Harvard Medical School
Kenneth Rogoff - Professor FAS
Evan Rosen - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Gary Ruvkun - Professor of Genetics
Jeffrey E. Saffitz - Professor of Pathology, Harvard Medical School
Yael Hoffman Sage, MD MPH - Instructor, Brigham and Women's Hospital
Joshua R Sanes - Professor of Molecular and Cellular Biology
Clifford Saper - Professor, HMS
David Scadden - Professor of Medicine, HMS; Professor of Stem Cell and Regenerative Biology, FAS
Richard M. Schwartzstein, MD - Harvard Medical School, Professor of Medicine
Thomas Schwarz - Professor, Harvard Medical School and Boston Children's Hospital
Ayellet Segre - Assistant Professor, Department of Ophthalmology
Eugene Shakhnovich - Roy G Gordon Professor of Chemistry and Chemical Biology FAS
Irwin Shapiro - University Professor, FAS
Arlene Sharpe - Professor, Harvard Medical School
Steven Shoelson - Professor of Medicine, Harvard Medical School
Christine Smith - Robert C. and Marion K. Weinberg Professor of Architectural History, Graduate School of Design
Haim Sompolinsky - Professor of Physics and of Neuroscience (in Residence)
Lawerence H. Summers - Charles W. Eliot University Professor
Cliff Tabin - Professor and Chair of Genetics, Harvard Medical School
Daniel Talmor - HMS Edward Lowenstein Professor of Anaesthesia
Tomer Ullman - Assistant Professor, Department of Psychology
Charles CY Wang - Professor of Business Administration, Harvard Business School
Daniel Weinstock - Director for Master's Education, SEAS
Justin Werfel - Senior Research Fellow, SEAS
Christopher Winship - Diker-Tishman Professor of Sociology
Jacqueline Wolf - Associate Professor of Medicine; Harvard Medical School
Jeremy Wolfe - Professor of Ophthalmology and Radiology, Havard Medical School
Rabbi David Wolpe - Divinity School
Amir Yacoby - Professor of Physics and Applied Physics
Mark Zeidel - HMS
Yep. I’m a left-leaning centrist and I am a huge proponent of the right to arm oneself. The world is harsh and unforgiving, and when the chips are down, you are responsible for your own life and safety.
Own a gun or some kind of weapon. Have emergency water and rations. Have a plan to escape, barricade, or fight. Enjoy what life has to offer, but be mindful of your surroundings and be ready to bolt. Psychos are everywhere.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I'm speechless. I don't know how to respond to that.
Yeah, that's enough internet for today.
No kidding. I'm trying to think of ANY OTHER GROUP that could commit such acts and get a "oh well, I'm sure its an inflated report" shrug off. How the Palestinians in general, and Hamas in particular, have managed to somehow simultaneously cast themselves as victims in the "global public eye" AND still be the aggressors in grand fashion is baffling.
I'm really hoping social media is a tool of justice in this case, keeping the real victims front and center instead of memory holed in a week when peace talks come up.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Does Hamas operate out of both Gaza and the West Bank? Is there political cohesion between what governments exist in the two locations?
I bet each of these "groups" consists of 2-4 people, and they are all the same members of multiple similar groups. They know that "TWENTY organizations support Palestine" is all the news will say, not pulling the charter of these groups, the membership or social media pics of all the membership. Hell, may even be just ONE person doing most of it, faking the entire thing for tuition money from overseas.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
It appears that it might have taken babies getting beheaded for reality to set in for some.
BTW, if you want to help support first responders and can afford to do so:
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
How do you even get to a point where you have no problem beheading babies... I just cannot comprehend that. Even if a bunch of terrorists killed my whole family now, I'd still not be able to kill their kids/babies...
See, I don't buy it. If the "majority" of Palestinians didn't want this, how did THOUSANDS of fighters prepare for it and no one say anything?
If Palestine wants to evolve and join the rest of the sane world, they can root out and expel these fanatics themselves, boot out the religious leaders who espouse the hateful rhetoric, and come to a collective agreement of "WE WILL CHANGE" that starts by publicly and often denoucing their past, eradicating all symbols and references to it, and actively policing themselves to prevent future rot. You can't tell me that out of 2 MILLION the only folks with stones and a backbone are 100% Hamas and rest cowards who absolutely don't like it but won't lift a finger to stop it.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
You’re not a religious fundamentalist who believes they are waging a war against satan.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
That's a man on a mission. He knows Hamas is the enemy and sounds like he has a plan! Fuck them UP!
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
True, but still, I can't see a world where I would be allowed to be radicalised so badly I could do that kind of shit. I can imagine doing that shit to soldiers that killed my family maybe, but little babies? And to imagine that there are probably a bunch in our countries in the west that have the same mindset as these devils.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
These people are EVERYWHERE! BUT I believe they're the minority. Just very LOUD and stupid
Raven117
Member
Don't doubt anyone's capacity for true evil when pushed far enough. (And for the middle east, generations....millennia, even) .
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
There are some radicalized "Christians" out there who have committed murder and other things... But these motherfuckers are successful in pulling poor young men into their bastardization of the Quran by only pulling SOME quotes out of context. They'd be successful Televangelists here in the US preaching Jesus wants Biden dead (I remember one on the pulpit saying God wants Obama to die or that he was praying for Obama to be killed)... And all they'd have to do is .. take some bible quotes out of context and weaponize them for radicalization.
We've seen plenty of Muslims side with Israel and condemn Hamas... Just as there were plenty of Christians who condemned the killing of abortion doctors.
I think my point is, no religion is bad... But some will bastardize it and turn ordinary people into killers or crazies.
We've seen plenty of Muslims side with Israel and condemn Hamas... Just as there were plenty of Christians who condemned the killing of abortion doctors.
I think my point is, no religion is bad... But some will bastardize it and turn ordinary people into killers or crazies.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
I would say people advocating for killing other people are not "stupid", but...Well, probably should be jailed or something. Because stupidity implies naivety, but celebrating death? That is something inhuman.
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Faust
Perpetually Tired
The mentally unstable and deranged will use whatever tools they can to commit the evil they wish to do.
E-Cat
Member
That's because I take it you don't subscribe to a 100% dogmatic belief system that can justify anything, because there's no "objective morality".
Faust
Perpetually Tired
Would you be willing to explain this more? What is a Minyan?
Quasicat
Member
I was thinking about this last evening. Now that Israel is completely focused on the south, what’s stopping Russia from invading from the north? Their troops are already mobilized in the Ukraine, this almost seems like it could have been the plan all along using Hamas as the wiling distraction.
E-Cat
Member
That context, though, being that it's an irrational book written in pre-scientific times by violent desert tribes. So, what exactly does taking this utter nonsense "out of context" mean? The real problem is that anyone takes any part of it seriously. What has largely happened to the Bible in the modern Western world is what also needs to happen to the Quran. Cherry-pick out the "nice" parts, if any, for Hallmark greeting cards and disregard the rest, or whatever.
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In Judaism when you do certain acts of praying, you need 10 men after bar-mitzva (13yo+) to do the praying. When you burry someone you say Kadish (a Jewish prayer to glorify God) and you need at least 10 men.
Faust
Perpetually Tired
Thank you!
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
Two US carrier groups sitting off the coast of Israel.
Russia is not a close border with Israel to the North. Syria and Lebanon are, and there's already shit happening on the Lebanese border + some shots fired from Syria. That's why Biden said what he said, and the US navy is moving it's ships there.
BlueAlpaca
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
They don’t see Jews as human. That’s the issue. They are subhuman to them. It’s the same attitude as the Nazis.
E-Cat
Member
Right, but there's nothing to "interpret"; it's just noise. It's like saying there's a wrong way to analyze the shit I took this morning for astrological signs
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