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[Tomeru]

People on GAF way back when used to say that Al-Jazeera was the only news organization you could trust implicitly.

They are probably over at reee now.

 

[bbmcgee]

What are you guys suggesting, that we treat 1/4th of the world’s population as enemies who we can’t co-exist with? That seems faulty cuz we have co-existed with muslims for millennia, with our bloodiest wars in the past few hundred years (civil war and WW2) being fought against non-muslims. No country wants Palestinian refugees, Muslim or otherwise. Your average Muslim citizen just wants to eat kebab, play videogames, and find a hot woman they don’t care about killing jews or setting up a caliphate. I’m American, I dont feel obligated to speak out everytime we bomb a hospital or some shit, it has nothing to do with me just my tax dollars. Same with muslims, what burden of responsibility do 99% of them have for what happened last week? None.

We cannot coexist with people supporting terrorist organizations. Anyone who does that, Muslim or not, does not belong here. If they are guests in our countries, its time to go.

And no, we shouldn't stay silent while they gas the jews again because it doesn't involve us. Have you learned absolutely nothing. If it was me, I would want the world to speak up. I'm a black American. The world has done that several times.

But now that its jews, its none of my business? No. Good people must speak now. What's happening is completely ridiculous

 

[DareDaniel]

of course they do, these ones happen to have Islam as theirs...

People who use religion for evil shit are not religious. Same applies for pedo priests. These are just shit human beings.

 

[Brigandier]

I am horrified by what I have been reading by posters in this thread, where the majority seem to simply view this whole thing as black and white, where people are OK with bundling all Muslims into a specific type of person, so they can easily choose to hate. The situation between Israel and Palestine is not simple, and you shouldn't pick a side that easily. You don't need to pick a side, if you really are concerned about the people there.

If you want to look at Muslims as the villains, fine, I guess this is where everyone stops thinking critically, but how can you completely ignore the situation of Palestine and its people? I know the situation for Israelis isn't as simple either, but their government hasn't been treating the people of Palestine like humans either. They are locked in, isolated, the water supply, food, everything is controlled by Israel, even when things aren't as bad as they are now. Now, Hamas has made it even tougher for the people of Palestine, but who can they look to for support because everyone just seems to villainize them? as shown in this thread.

I am done here, I guess.

 

[Ulysses 31]

People who use religion for evil shit are not religious. Same applies for pedo priests. These are just shit human beings.

If you think all religions preach peace and tolerance, even towards non-believers then

 

[DragoonKain]

 

[StreetsofBeige]

We cannot coexist with people supporting terrorist organizations. Anyone who does that, Muslim or not, does not belong here. If they are guests in our countries, its time to go.

And no, we shouldn't stay silent while they gas the jews again because it doesn't involve us. Have you learned absolutely nothing. If it was me, I would want the world to speak up. I'm a black American. The world has done that several times.

But now that its jews, its none of my business? No. Good people must speak now. What's happening is completely ridiculous

There's one key caveat to that though.

If people and governments speak up, Muslim zealots are most prone to raiding, terrorist acts and flag burning mobs. Israel has shown right now they dont give a shit anymore, but thats because they are right there in the thick of it.

But for the rest countries where its limited to protest marches, it's mostly just unruly loud protests of hate (which I dont think has lead to giant massacres).

So do you tell them to knock off the hate parties, in hopes they dont retaliate jihad way? Or do you just let them vent and assume nothing major will happen and the crowd disipates?

 

[ADiTAR]

As a muslim American my circle which is heavily also muslim are all condemning the attacks. I haven't met one person I know who was in support. Of course there are but I think they are the vocal minority not the majority from what I've seen. Most people just want to see the violence stop in general.

Did you speak up? did you post a condemnation on your socials?

My mom came over today, and we had the siren go off, and she's a child to Holocaust survivors and still says avenging the dead won't bring them back. She says we should go after the leaders, and she's right.

We're in a very tough situation, and I do think that if Muslims speak out we'll get the peace. Instead of having so many university groups supporting "Free Palestine", which is the destruction of Israel, I'm not sure why there are no "Peace in the middle east" groups.

 

[funkygunther]

People who use religion for evil shit are not religious. Same applies for pedo priests. These are just shit human beings.

they can be both religious and evil, or to put an actual objective marker on it they can be both religious and criminal...anyway, religion sanctions "evil shit" all by itself even without people's interpretation of it

 

[GetInTheRobot]

So how many of the palestine people killed so far are likely Hamas and not just innocents? Because I heard like almost 500 kids have been killed or something so far in the bombings but haven't really read much about the militant clashes and how effective taking out all these "bases" are.

No way to really know, but 500 kids have been killed which in any situation is and should be classified as a war crime.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

People who use religion for evil shit are not religious

nonsense

 

[Bry0]

Peace can be made with the Palestinians, but not while Hamas is in charge. Their covenant literally uses the protocols of the elders of Zion to legitimize their hatred of Jews. It’s the same hate that fueled the Nazis. I’m not sure how lasting peace can be made with an ideology built on such rot.

 

[Putonahappyface]

I laughed at this so freakin hard.

If you want a bigger laugh watch the documentary "Wild Wild Country" on Netflix.

 

[Kataploom]

Antifa means Anti-fascism

Fascist were against Jews (to put it mildly)

So by this math Antifa should be against pro Palestine protesters. Are they?

If we were to call out all contradictions about these so called "progressive" groups, they'd dissapear before out of irrelevance before we finish

 

[LordOfChaos]

 

[Liljagare]

Welps, jews in Gothenburg, Sweden, and in Malmö are told not to speak hebrew and hide their identity due to the rise of antisemitism and danger of hate crimes. (source in swedish, https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/uppmaningen-till-svenska-judar-tala-inte-hebreiska/).

 

[EviLore]

Welps, jews in Gothenburg, Sweden, and in Malmö are told not to speak hebrew and hide their identity due to the rise of antisemitism and danger of hate crimes. (source in swedish, https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/uppmaningen-till-svenska-judar-tala-inte-hebreiska/).

Maybe instead of being told to operate in fear for your life, the people instilling the fear could be addressed.

 

[bbmcgee]

There's one key caveat to that though.

If people and governments speak up, Muslim zealots are most prone to raiding, terrorist acts and flag burning mobs. Israel has shown right now they dont give a shit anymore, but thats because they are right there in the thick of it.

But for the rest countries where its limited to protest marches, it's mostly just unruly loud protests of hate (which I dont think has lead to giant massacres).

So do you tell them to knock off the hate parties, in hopes they dont retaliate jihad way? Or do you just let them vent and assume nothing major will happen and the crowd disipates?

Is this a joke? When you don't crush this kind of nonsense out immediately it grows and grows until it explodes and you are in serious trouble. It doesn't take as much as you think.

 

[ADiTAR]

Maybe instead of being told to operate in fear for your life, the people instilling the fear could be addressed.

From what I understand Sweden has lots of bombings or something like that, they have their hands full.

 

[NickFire]

The notion that it's on the rise is both true, obviously, but also kind of whitewashes a lot of uncomfortable truths.

Seems to me it was here the entire time. But instead of shining a bright light on all of it, a decent amount of media people used a very narrow flashlight to highlight one fraction of it while covering for the rest because of politics.

 

[Ozriel]

Foreign nationals who praise Hamas could be deported: Robert Jenrick

UK immigration minister Robert Jenrick has asked officials in the department to look at how they could revoke visas on national security grounds.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yes. This is the way.

Imagine coming to the UK fleeing fundamentalism in Somalia…then you turn around and start praising terrorists.

When people start seeing the consequences of their actions, they’ll learn. If you’re publicly praising terrorists and celebrating the murder of women and children, you should be in no-fly lists.

 

[Sybrix]

Interesting video for those who want to know the history:




How the fuck did anyone think the plan after the first intifada would work and be sustainable!?!

 

[Ironbunny]

There seems to be a theory now that some of the assaulters were ruZZian. In the below video its said they are speaking ruZZian.

 

[EviLore]

A Reuters cameraman was just killed and a journalist injured due to IDF artillery fire striking back at Hezbollah positions in south Lebanon. The northern front is hot.

 

[Dynasty8]

I mean, the world is a satire.

Probably a parody...because I refuse to think people can be this stupid.

 

[ManaByte]

Probably a parody...because I refuse to think people can be this stupid.

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

Israeli government supporting West Bank illegal settlements is making a huge mistake.

 

[Trunx81]

Media is talking about tanks and troops entering Gaza right now.

 

[Slicker than your average]

There seems to be a theory now that some of the assaulters were ruZZian. In the below video its said they are speaking ruZZian.

This is hilarious. If Wagner thinks killing Africans villagers is the same as fighting the IDF, then let then go and die with Hamas.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Lebanese Journalist Was Just Killed In Israeli Strike At Border

Journalist killed and three others injured in an Israeli airstrike targeting their vehicle in Alma al Shaab.

www.the961.com

Reuters Journalist Killed, Several Wounded in Israel Carnage

“We are deeply saddened to learn that our videographer, Issam Abdallah, has been killed,” a Reuters spokesperson said.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[ADiTAR]

Israeli government supporting West Bank illegal settlements is making a huge mistake.

I agree, and maybe after this ends the center-left can explain to people why we should abandon this, because the entire army can't be guarding scores of our Messihnic people there.

My hope is that after this the Fatach will be forced to sign a peace deal and we get the settlements out. Wishful thinking.

 

[Dynasty8]

terrorists have no religion.

Yet 99.9% of the time all we hear terrorists yell is Alluah Ahkbar.

Sorry if that fact bothers you or anyone.

 

[EviLore]

CBC Radio host

 

[ManaByte]

 

[winjer]

terrorists have no religion.

You have to be extremely naive to believe in that.

 

[jason10mm]

What are you guys suggesting, that we treat 1/4th of the world’s population as enemies who we can’t co-exist with? That seems faulty cuz we have co-existed with muslims for millennia, with our bloodiest wars in the past few hundred years (civil war and WW2) being fought against non-muslims. No country wants Palestinian refugees, Muslim or otherwise. Your average Muslim citizen just wants to eat kebab, play videogames, and find a hot woman they don’t care about killing jews or setting up a caliphate. I’m American, I dont feel obligated to speak out everytime we bomb a hospital or some shit, it has nothing to do with me just my tax dollars. Same with muslims, what burden of responsibility do 99% of them have for what happened last week? None.

I'm saying to cut out the pearl clutching when Isreal FINALLY has to deal with a group SO SAVAGE that NO ONE ELSE wants to deal with them. If Hamas dominated Palestine is so inimical to every Islamic value and so totally resistant to any type of moderating influence, then GTFO of the way!

But if other Muslim groups want to somehow take umbrage about this situation, then maybe sack up and deal with it and quell Hamas yourselves or just admit that yeah, you want Hamas to win and if a few thousand slaughtered civilians and babies is the price, inshallah, amirite?

 

[EviLore]

 

[ChuckeRearmed]

I would not be surprised that in USA in some states if you kill a jihadist or stopped jihadist from killing you, you will be blamed for racism.

 

[ADiTAR]

I'm listening to Israel media live, and hear nothing... but there's a lot of shit going on in Lebanon and also nothing.

 

[Kataploom]

wat

Scott Calls for Starbucks Boycott after Union Supports Palestine; Corporation Silent

After the horrifying terrorist attack in Israel committed by Hamas which left nearly 1,000 Israelis dead and thousands wounded, a worker’s union for Starbucks

floridianpress.com

Well, that "corporation silent" is what I expect of every single company in the world since they only single job is to make money and stfu on political issues

 

[DeaDPo0L84]

I mean, the world is a satire.

We've managed to devolve so much in this country that the movie Idiocracy looks normal.

 

[LordOfChaos]

CBC Radio host

They have some high quality programs like The National. But defund all this side shit.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

What are you guys suggesting, that we treat 1/4th of the world’s population as enemies who we can’t co-exist with? That seems faulty cuz we have co-existed with muslims for millennia

1 - Yes
2 - Current Arab countries are bottom of the barrel compared to Baghdad in the 6th century AD, at a time when the Arab world was the beacon of civilisation and science ; now they are a bunch of tribal chiefs dressed in rags propped up by oil

 

[FeralEcho]

We've managed to devolve so much in this country that the movie Idiocracy looks normal.

I seriously feel like I'm in bizarro world when seeing such things but nope just good ole' fashioned human stupidity...

 

[badblue]

People who use religion for evil shit are not religious.

People use religion to justify their abhorrent acts all the time and have since religion was created.

 

[jason10mm]

How many muslims do you have in your general circle? Honest question because if you did, you know you'd see a large amount of them calling for peaceful resolutions. I don't think its fair to chalk all muslims up to radicals who want to see the death of the west and Israeli...and if you don't know many let me be one of the first you do know to say yes all of that aint shit. Any form of religious fundamentalism leads to self righteous dangerous actions that is only a net negative on the world.

Sorry you are banned but if what you say is true, then GET OUT THERE AND PREACH IT! Call your local media and give them a positive sound bite! Shout down anyone showing up to a "Free Palestine/Go HAMAS!" rally. Enact pressure within your local muslim community to out any Imams trying to radicalize anyone. Go on social media and counter the hate you see there. Nothing you say here in this circle jerk will affect anything.

 

[Sub_Level]

It seems they are treating us as enemies they can't coexist with.They elected this goverment of terrorists so i feel they have a responsability for what happened here.I'm not saying they should go donate their money to the Israeli but some sort of call for a cease fire would be at least something yet nothing. If I have a bad dog that bites anyone,know it and I let it bite you I'm also responsible for what the dog does.

Israel is not interested in any sort of cease-fire at this time (I don’t blame them). Calls for one from other nations is a useless gesture. They want to rid Hamas from Gaza and ensure that it can never govern there again (whether that ends with Israel in total control themselves or installing a proxy Palestinian mini-government we will see).

I'm saying to cut out the pearl clutching when Isreal FINALLY has to deal with a group SO SAVAGE that NO ONE ELSE wants to deal with them. If Hamas dominated Palestine is so inimical to every Islamic value and so totally resistant to any type of moderating influence, then GTFO of the way!

But if other Muslim groups want to somehow take umbrage about this situation, then maybe sack up and deal with it and quell Hamas yourselves or just admit that yeah, you want Hamas to win and if a few thousand slaughtered civilians and babies is the price, inshallah, amirite?

I dont like the pearl clutching either and am in support of Israel’s strikes & invasion. My disagreement with your post was the insinuation that Islam as a whole is somehow not compatible with us anymore. If that was not your intended rhetoric, then disregard. I would also say to be fair many pro-Palestinians here in the West are not even Muslims themselves, but another case of people being offended on behalf of others.

 

[Mohonky]

Maybe instead of being told to operate in fear for your life, the people instilling the fear could be addressed.

It's a novel idea, let's see if they implement it.....

 

[laynelane]

Wondering if here in Canada we'll walk the walk and grow a pair after Trudy finally condemned rallies for terrorist groups here

Doubtful so long as hate speech laws are being ignored by the police and government in favour of letting terrorist supporters say whatever the fuck they want. I wish it were different.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Is that Jihad day today?

We expecting anything to happen outside of the Middle East?