Agreed, there is no way Future Tone could be ported to the Vita and still resemble The Future Tone arcade version in the slightest.
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Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X |Import OT| Party Like It's 2007
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Agreed, there is no way Future Tone could be ported to the Vita and still resemble The Future Tone arcade version in the slightest.
You get a bunch of arts when you get to the ending credits, so you can change it.
Ludger Kresnik
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So you can set different pictures as loading screens after you finish the game, you mean?
Smaller by the numbers (songs, modules, stages) but still the mechanics and organization are mostly identical. You could argue that X is MGF with different songs, or MGF is X with different songs. The subject matter is different but the games have more in common than not. I don't think Sega could have got both games out in the time frame if they were vastly different.
Okay, that's good, at least. Strange, but at least they're there.
jetsetnickradio
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So can anyone confirm if this supports PlayStation TV/PS Vita TV or not?
My Vita broke awhile back and I haven't been able to replace it yet, but I do have a PS TV.
My Vita broke awhile back and I haven't been able to replace it yet, but I do have a PS TV.
Wowfunhappy
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I can't personally confirm, but I've read that it does. I bought a Vita TV specifically for this game.
HypnoDarkrai
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jetsetnickradio
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Remembrance
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I'm not importing - just looking at online videos - but I think this game shows a lot of rethinking about underused features in previous games. Diva room, edit mode, and accessories come to mind as features that a lot of players probably didn't bother with or could not get deeply into. So the first two get scaled down, and accessories gain a gameplay function.
What I don't know is whether this also reflects a long-term trend about making PVs more economically in terms of both money and time. I mean, in the two years between F and F 2nd Sega was able to make 20 full-fledged PVs for F 2nd - and some of these were visually gorgeous and not matched by anything in X. But that's still not enough for a full game without recycling other stages.
With the current style I think they can at least consistently achieve the level of something like Satisfaction or Lost Ones, with lots of visual detail and camerawork. But Renai Saiban is just barren and underwhelming for one of the most popular songs in this game.
But wherever things go from here, I'll always have Two Breaths Walking and 2D Dream Fever as the visual pinnacles of this series. And the old edit modes to play with.
(At least Lost Ones acknowledges that it should have been a guitar song...
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What I don't know is whether this also reflects a long-term trend about making PVs more economically in terms of both money and time. I mean, in the two years between F and F 2nd Sega was able to make 20 full-fledged PVs for F 2nd - and some of these were visually gorgeous and not matched by anything in X. But that's still not enough for a full game without recycling other stages.
With the current style I think they can at least consistently achieve the level of something like Satisfaction or Lost Ones, with lots of visual detail and camerawork. But Renai Saiban is just barren and underwhelming for one of the most popular songs in this game.
But wherever things go from here, I'll always have Two Breaths Walking and 2D Dream Fever as the visual pinnacles of this series. And the old edit modes to play with.
(At least Lost Ones acknowledges that it should have been a guitar song...
By smashing the guitar.
I would import if I had more money, but I don't so I'm just going to ask a few questions.
1. So are the songs mostly concerty and not really telling a story? Some of my favorite parts of f and f 2nd were the weirdly insane music video stories they would tell with the lyrics and visuals. If the lyrics and story still get across then that might be fine, but it'll be a lil bummerish.
2. How the fuck are star notes now? Am I still flicking sticks or rubbing my screen and hating everything? Do I still make pictures of foxes or zigzags and hate how it messes with my brain timing wise?
3. I'm a shit and mostly play on hard usually. Does hard feel about the same or harder than the previous games? I struggled a little bit with the first game, but still beat hard in under a week with some practice. I thinked I finished normal and hard on the first day with f 2nd without too much trouble besides Cat I forget the name song.
4. Please give it to me already Sega. Preferably this year?
1. So are the songs mostly concerty and not really telling a story? Some of my favorite parts of f and f 2nd were the weirdly insane music video stories they would tell with the lyrics and visuals. If the lyrics and story still get across then that might be fine, but it'll be a lil bummerish.
2. How the fuck are star notes now? Am I still flicking sticks or rubbing my screen and hating everything? Do I still make pictures of foxes or zigzags and hate how it messes with my brain timing wise?
3. I'm a shit and mostly play on hard usually. Does hard feel about the same or harder than the previous games? I struggled a little bit with the first game, but still beat hard in under a week with some practice. I thinked I finished normal and hard on the first day with f 2nd without too much trouble besides Cat I forget the name song.
4. Please give it to me already Sega. Preferably this year?
Remembrance
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Think of it this way: all the song videos could work in the old AR live mode (if it still existed; I think it's been cut). So no more cutting between two different scenes, no climbing platforms, no flying.
That said, most of the new "stage" videos are more dynamic than the old ones (think Melancholic, Weekender Girl, Summer Idol). Adding more props, changing backgrounds, and having more acting is kind of a compromise to squeeze more story in.
Aren't the star notes just gone now except for the Chance Time stars? Someone else please confirm this.
That said, most of the new "stage" videos are more dynamic than the old ones (think Melancholic, Weekender Girl, Summer Idol). Adding more props, changing backgrounds, and having more acting is kind of a compromise to squeeze more story in.
Aren't the star notes just gone now except for the Chance Time stars? Someone else please confirm this.
Double and link scratches are gone from what I've played, it's pretty much the same as f/F. You can get rush notes on scratches which is kinda amusing.
Thank goodness link scratches are gone, but I don't think doubles had to go.
EDIT: What the heck is with that Chance Time star in that Urotander song lol
Thank goodness link scratches are gone, but I don't think doubles had to go.
EDIT: What the heck is with that Chance Time star in that Urotander song lol
KharmaPolice
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I feel Extreme is a bit more difficult than the Diva F games.
What the heck is with all the notes in Urotander? The note chart is a complete mess.
Ludger Kresnik
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Urotander's chart is hilarious and kinda thematically appropriate. The song is about a Super Sentai-like team that uses really cheap and dirty tricks to get ahead and defeat their enemies. The note chart is also using really cheap and dirty tricks to confuse you.
I like it when they get creative with the charting like that, though in this case it ended up almost edit mode levels of nonsense.
I like it when they get creative with the charting like that, though in this case it ended up almost edit mode levels of nonsense.
Its a nightmare with all those challenge items, almost forcing you to memorize the notes
KharmaPolice
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What did you think all those pelvic thrusts and the explosion sound at the end of the PV were for
What did you think all those pelvic thrusts and the explosion sound at the end of the PV were for
Well I guess I need to pay more attention to PVs I guess. I was watching the chart more than the PV lol.
Ludger Kresnik
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A working title for this very OT was "contains at least two songs about penises".
LowParry
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Played for about the first 30 minutes or so? The first quest area done with the five songs. I like what I hear but it's such a strange different approach of unlocking things through this quest mode. Other than that, disappointed on how the music is presented (so far). It's just a type of concert I'm watching. Nothing really themed or that tells a story of the sorts.
I can 100% confirm this. I have it on my Vita TV now.
petethepanda
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I sliiightly underestimated the amount of Japanese in this. I'm only in it for the rhythm game stuff so I can deal, but after the relatively light amount in PDf (last one I imported) I was caught off-guard when it dived straight into VN stuff :lol
teflontactics
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I played on easy 'cause the last time I played a game like this was when the Miracle Girls Festival demo dropped, but here's some demo footage - captured from my PlayStation TV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sPjK4m4tn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sPjK4m4tn8
Saoshyant
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I'm afraid to ask which one is the second one.
Ludger Kresnik
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Seven4sses
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Wait, are all the songs being covered by one artist per category? It's gonna be weird hearing old songs from a different artist.
I'm just happy 2D Dream Fever and Two Faced Lovers is back, but I wanted to ask.
I'm just happy 2D Dream Fever and Two Faced Lovers is back, but I wanted to ask.
KharmaPolice
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Some tips for module unlocking: Each module has a special skill. The two most useful ones are
- Higher drop chance for RARE modules
- Higher drop chance for NEW modules (modules you haven't unlocked yet)
These skills come in different levels (I think it goes up to five). For example the module from the song Yellow has Level 4 of NEW modules. As far as I can tell this helps a lot with unlocking.
- Higher drop chance for RARE modules
- Higher drop chance for NEW modules (modules you haven't unlocked yet)
These skills come in different levels (I think it goes up to five). For example the module from the song Yellow has Level 4 of NEW modules. As far as I can tell this helps a lot with unlocking.
I must have cursed my luck when I said in the General thread that Play-Asia works with me. I'm still waiting on my order to even ship out...
Hopefully I get to play this by next Saturday. I know that general opinion is showing so far it's a little... lackluster? But I'm really excited anyways, the track-list has a number of my favorites, and some that I can already tell will join said favorites.
Hopefully I get to play this by next Saturday. I know that general opinion is showing so far it's a little... lackluster? But I'm really excited anyways, the track-list has a number of my favorites, and some that I can already tell will join said favorites.
Atomicfireman
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Judging by some of the reactions to Live Quest it looks like I'll be waiting for the ps4 version. I really want to play it but I also just got Project Mirai DX recently so that will hold me for a while.
Toadthemushroom
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Rubbish.
There's no need for cheap skinner box mechanics to encourage player engagement in rhythm games, a genre which is naturally compelling due to the mastery they inspire in the player.
This really does make the unlock DLC seem incredibly cynical. Players who just want to focus on the main set of songs and not "engage" with Quest Mode for longer than they need to in the hope of a rare and random module drop are more likely to go for it (I know I would). On the other hand those tolerant of the random drops who might be entralled by the mechanic are less likely to sell on the game earlier.
Win-win for Sega, not so sure about the people playing it who may also want to nab all modules.
KurisuKaatsu
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Has anyone unlocked the final medley? We've been marathoning the game at Animeland Wasabi and can't figure it out...
Edit: Never mind, I should read for once. Just as I skipped reading the first page of the thread, I literally skipped over the mission to do the final medley. Curse my laziness.
My fear is that we have to grind the 5 music elements until we get the third point bubble for each one...the pain...
Edit: Never mind, I should read for once. Just as I skipped reading the first page of the thread, I literally skipped over the mission to do the final medley. Curse my laziness.
It's not too hard.
Get to level 2 or whatever for every area and complete all the special lives under the Event Quest, you'll then unlock the event quests for the last song.
LowParry
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Ah nice. So not too far along then. Thanks!
Game just came in this afternoon.
First impressions, I'm not terribly put off by quest mode yet. I'm suspecting though that filling up the gem for other areas will not be as easy as the first neutral area. Picked beauty next for Ai Dee.
No rare drops yet, and the module/accessory combinations I'm coming up with for high voltage rates are rather tacky, but it works. Free play is there when I feel like it, and extreme is unlocked at the same time the song is.
Quest dialogue is still little more than a tutorial at this point, not expecting more than flavor text but anything better than MGF would be good.
First impressions, I'm not terribly put off by quest mode yet. I'm suspecting though that filling up the gem for other areas will not be as easy as the first neutral area. Picked beauty next for Ai Dee.
No rare drops yet, and the module/accessory combinations I'm coming up with for high voltage rates are rather tacky, but it works. Free play is there when I feel like it, and extreme is unlocked at the same time the song is.
Quest dialogue is still little more than a tutorial at this point, not expecting more than flavor text but anything better than MGF would be good.
KharmaPolice
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There is at the bottom of the song list.
I figured that's where it would've been, but it's not there for me. Weird. Eh, not really a big deal.
KharmaPolice
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Hm, probably an unlock then. I can't tell you how I got it though. They really went overboard with the unlocks.
StarCreator
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What sort method are you using? In one of the previous games the random option would only show on the default sort.
Ludger Kresnik
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Random only showed up after clearing all the songs in F and F 2nd, right?
I usually use the default sorting.
That might be it. I never really noticed it missing before, but obviously none of those games had Live Quest to unlock stuff. I'll get around to clearing all the songs in free play eventually lol.
I have both of them for Ren, but can I somehow make use of them to boost my chances for getting rare and new modules for the other Vocaloids?