Ya that scene made no sense to me. Especially that it seemed they were on what seemed to be a path.
22 but made to look very young. Also supposed to be very young in the show. Creepy comment ngl. I’ll give you a pass if you’re like 16 tho
Well, that's not how succession OR Westeros works, ain't no way marrying a vassal lord gets you to trump the main House. Now if Daemon and Rhea had a daughter, marrying HER to the Arryn heir would make sense, though if Daemons kids were dragonriders the Targaryens would normally want to marry them back into the Targaryen orbit to keep dragonriding exclusive to them.
Acting! How that work?
I don’t know about everything else. I personally find it weird though, especially that she plays a young teen/child so convincingly. I know if anyone in my circle said that in conversation while discussing the show. Eyes would be rolled
Yes. it's a power thing. He is turned on when he has all control. That is why when Rhaenyra took control back when they were in the brothel or whatever, he lost all interest, and it killed his sex drive with her in that moment.
That might just be your circle bro. Just yesterday I was talking with my circle how cute both the young actresses are and how sad it's to get them replaced.
I think they’re cute as well. Don’t care or want to see nudity from a character that’s supposed to be a child though.
I don’t think he lost interest in that moment. I just feel like he did what he planned out to do and moved on. His little scandal mission was done. That’s the way I seen it. I dunno
He seemed pretty pissed off that he lost the dominant position.
Maybe you’re right. My memory of that scene is a little hazy
Yes, the guys in jail were tasked to do that in exchange for their freedom.
I think it hinted twice
Well she says she wants to die a dragon-rider's death like 10 minutes prior to this scene. She also explicitly states she doesn't want the child born here, nor does she want her children to grow up here being used by the Prince. She requests leaving twice from Daemon and he doesn't answer her. Also, I wouldn't apply modern morality to HotD - especially someone given her characterization.
He just became lord of Harrenhall and forced the queen to become complicit in his treachery in one stroke. It's a hell of a power play. Dark stuff to have your father and brother killed, but not beyond the scope of what some people at court were willing to do.
Yep. The actress earned her money in that one moment. She put on a masterclass. The tears. The emotion. The betrayal. She had thought she was the one in charge all along talking down to a subordinate that would keep her secrets. The slow realization that he had been building up to this for years and that she was his pawn all along was amazing. She never dreamed that someone "so low" would rise against someone like her that was "so high". It perfectly plays into the already established idea that Alicent is firmly planted in the traditional pecking order of the realm. She is the queen under the protection of the king and a daughter of a prominent house. How could anyone possibly rise against her? And then BOOM. She is the pawn now.
She runs into him after the Deamon brothel scene as well.
Yup.
My point is WHY did she suicide at all? I'm guessing they did the csection, the baby was dead already, she thought she was dying as well, so burning was preferable to a death in bed. But it wasn't clear, to me at least, what actually happened and what the status of the baby is (I know from the book).
Ah I’ll take a look back, I caught up with episode 4&5 last night.
All good points.
Fair comment again
It is certainly a tough casting choice given the self-inflicted wound of making Velareyons black and then having to limit yourself to convincing mixed race actors. The older Laenor looks pretty mixed, not so much the older Laena. I REALLY hope they have a scene of Jace and Luc meeting Baela and Rhaena (Daemons twin daughters) and there being some comment about skin tone. To just ignore it and focus on hair color seems borderline insulting (but seems to be the way they are going).
Yeah, they really are handling the dragon…mechanics…? Lore? quite well. They nailed that scene with the hesitation and the realization and understanding on Vhagar’s face looking natural. And they seemed much more massive in this episode than previous ones, not sure if they’re purposefully trying to show their growth over time or just my perception.
Nothing tops the GOAT though:
And who can forget the theme which seemed to be slapped on to every trailer for the following 5 years or so:
Yeah I didn't read the books either. I guess I just didn't put that much thought into it but now I see a few complaints online that this scene wasn't well explained which seems fair. It just seemed to me she was suffering, delirious/dying, covered in blood, so she went to her dragon to give her a quick death. She indicated in the earlier scene her thought process towards death. I don't know what happened to the unborn child I assumed it died within her or we'll find out later.
He knew she was doomed either way and she had already professed she wished to die as a dragon rider. I took the scene as him coming to the realization that this was the only way.
You should go to church in the morning, that is what I look forward to.
Right, Vhagar seemed noticeably bigger but it’s been a few weeks so I wasn’t sure if that was actually the case to match the fact they just keep getting bigger with age, or if I just didn’t remember how big she was.
In GoT they talk about how all the dragons started getting smaller and smaller and didn't know why.
