shadowstar
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Hearthstone |OT| Why tap cards when you can roll need [Naxx final wing out now]
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RDU at dreamhack's fault
Otter is getting a boost in stream popularity because of dreamhack/rdu.
Haven't seen the glitch used on me yet, but I'll be ready to exit from now on vs hunters.
I always wait till around 1am to reroll. For some reason I get unlimited rerolls that way.
I really want to make a druid deck but the only druid card I've gotten in the last 10 packs is wrath, great stuff.
What the hell, I already can't craft cards as it is now.
Aquavelvaman
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People say this meta is diverse but there are really only three decks:
Control, combo, and leper gnome.
Control, combo, and leper gnome.
Those are the only 3 decks in card games, yes.
Welcome to card games everyone! Enjoy your stay.
Aquavelvaman
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Fragamemnon
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No crazy cards, just the usual blizzard/3x flamestrike mage bullshit.
I think that the Tiger and Frost Elemental are underrated in Mage lists. Both are hard to remove and are played in advance of a turn seven flamestrike, allowing you to keep the board afterwards. They are also good on their own.
The Brewmaster cards worked out well in the deck. I got a lot of value out of returning damaged Water Elementals, the Sunwalker, and Imp Masters to my hand and then replaying them, even if they don't have strong battlecries.
Zilea plays only control/healadin. He only streams late at night and usually only for an hour or so. Sometimes his friend Veev plays pally too, but not sure about his schedule.
Hopefully past broadcasts will be enabled so schedule won't matter. Thanks for the suggestion I will Def check it out.
Just beat a druid as freeze mage for exact lethal with last card (fireball). He healed three times (healing touch and lores). Thalnos (29th card) just would not let me have my fireball (had to blast him to draw it.
That druid lost because he dropped a minion instead of hero powering on at least one turn.
That said, raid boss down. Anything is possible.
Edit: Hax. Okay, freeze mage.
That druid lost because he dropped a minion instead of hero powering on at least one turn.
That said, raid boss down. Anything is possible.
Edit: Hax. Okay, freeze mage.
There is much fun to be had even if you commit to free. It'll just take some time to build your collection obviously. I've been playing for 9? Months as a free player and have more or less a complete collection.
Tips would be to use gold for arenas to maximize returns. If you want to play ranked or casual there are a good number of budget aggro decks that shouldn't take more than a week or two to craft.
If you really want to improve and learn the game faster, streams are a good place to do so.
Fragamemnon
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- Learn how to play in Arena. I learned most of what I know from this article and the associated twitch VODS:
http://ihearthu.com/vivafringes-guide-to-arena/
It's old but the drafting strategies aren't out of date. Getting to the point where you can do decent (4+ wins) in Arena will make your F2P life much easier. The dust and bonus gold you get along with your pack is a huge benefit vs. spending your gold on packs alone.
- Play the game. Don't discouraged because you play against people with epic and legendary cards. Even when they deal you the killing blow in a game, the actual root cause for the game loss almost certainly happened many turns ago for totally different reasons.
- As an extension to the above, the phrase "you win some, you lose some" really applies to this game. You will win and you will lose. You can't let losing get to you. Keep at it.
- There are some very good budget decks out there-the Warlock Zoo deck, the Midrange Hunter deck, and the Aggro Mage deck (just sub Loot Hoarder for Thalnos). Start with one and grind games out with it. Learn to win, learn to lose, but take time after every game to summarize in one or two sentences why the outcome of the game was a win or loss.
As long as you have got the time, everything is free.
Newb here, what do you mean when you say "spend your gold on arenas"?
Thanks for the article I'll have a read this afternoon at some point.
The game in the early stages is a bit slim with what it tells you, but how do I get different decks? I'm currently just using the one you get with the Mage after the tutorial
Fragamemnon
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You earn gold by completing quests (you get one new one per day) and winning games in Play mode. For 150 gold you can enter an Arena, which has scaling rewards depending on your performance.
Minsc
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Nope (ok, well "Summer" I guess), though people expect Blizzard to do something this week (probably on Wednesday/Thursday), because for the past two months they've been revealing a Naxx card every week on those days and now they've run out of class cards. So they either reveal something else (like price/date or a bunch of neutral cards), or do nothing and everyone gets upset.
We're proud to announce...A NEW CARD BACK!
This game is extremely f2p, you just have to put in time into learning how to be good in arena and do your daily quests regularly. I haven't put in any money and have 3 tourney level decks now after starting late last year.
Fragamemnon
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Reposting this from an earlier page, but I can't stop playing Reynad's Midrange Hunter deck from Dreamhack. You have to adjust it by a card for or two for laddering but it's great against everything but Miracle Rogue. The deck is also dirt cheap to build.
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/63421-reynad-dh-summer-midrange-hunter
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/63421-reynad-dh-summer-midrange-hunter
I love this deck even after the UTH nerf.
Though this version seems a bit too much focused on preventing Miracle from going off.
But it makes the Warlock matchup frustrating. You throw it away because you're sure it's going to be zoo, and then if it isn't you pray for it to come back.
Trump, Hafu, Amaz, Reynad, etc. Basically all of the most popular streamers archive.
daemissary
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I swear I have the worst luck with Mage in arena. Just had a run where I wasn't offered a single Fireball or Flamestrike the entire time. Still managed to eke out 4 wins and it should've been 5 except my Mad Bomber dealt all 3 of his damage to my 4/3 on the board...ugh.
There's a few stock decks you get early on but they're total ass and not even useful for beginners as the basic cards you unlock by leveling your heroes to 10 allow you to build much better ones already. Anything that matters is player-built.
The origins of deck names vary, they can be named by their creator, after the player who made them popular, their basic game plan (Freeze Mage, Control whatever etc.) or after staples with similar concepts from other CCGs, mostly MTG.
Koyuki is another good Paladin streamer, though he doesn't stream all that often.
There's no other unlocked decks in the game so, yes, decks with a name (e.g., Freeze Mage, Ramp Druid, Miracle Rogue, etc.) are all just known player made decks.
Professor Lich
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You are correct, a deck is a collection of cards that people put together and play. When people net deck, that usually means that most, if not all cards, are copied from someone else's deck, usually from someone who has hit legend. The only thing you can buy are packs and they are 100% random.
Names come from what the deck is. Someone else can probably explain it better, but for example, a zoolock is a warlock that mainly had a bunch of different creatures, thus that's where zoo comes in, and it goes for the face. You'll see it a lot because it's easy and effective for the early ranks.
As well, decks can be broken down into aggro, control, and combo. These just mean what the deck is trying to accomplish. Aggro is just a beat down deck, you rush your opponent and try to kill them before they can do anything. Control is about constantly clearing and keeping board control from your opponent.(Board control usually means you just have better minions/conditions on your side of the board). Then, in the late game, turn 10 and on, you play very dangerous minions minions to finish off your opponent. Combo is about cycling through your deck with draw cards/mechanics until you get a certain hand in which to kill your opponent with.
I think that should cover most of it. If I'm wrong about something, someone should be able to clear it up better.
Oh yeah, forgot about him. He always plays control decks, so he's another good one to go against the grain. He's rather boring by himself, so I don't normally watch him. Smart player though. Came from mtg I think.
Indeed. Lifecoach is awesome.
I wouldn't say that Zoo just goes for the face. It's an aggro-control deck. It curves low but focuses on controlling the board rather than just throwing things at your face. Really, due to the nature of the game being attacker advantaged, almost all aggro decks are really more aggro-control. The rush decks are the niche exception.
Zoo is a holdover from the Magic deck/archtype of the same name, which is just a deck filled with really good cost efficient 1-3 mana creatures. There was no underlying theme between them beyond "being good" so it was like a "zoo" of quality creatures.
And scy is right, Zoo in Hearthstone is unique in that it plays a kind of creature-based control with late game burst for the finish, versus straight up aggro like Shockadin or Hunter. The point is not to overwhelm your opponent with raw damage, but to bury them in board presence and tempo. The fact that Zoo can transition almost seamlessly into face aggro is one of its greatest strengths.
And scy is right, Zoo in Hearthstone is unique in that it plays a kind of creature-based control with late game burst for the finish, versus straight up aggro like Shockadin or Hunter. The point is not to overwhelm your opponent with raw damage, but to bury them in board presence and tempo. The fact that Zoo can transition almost seamlessly into face aggro is one of its greatest strengths.
Professor Lich
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Thanks for the correction on Zoo. I guess I just thought it was aggro since I rarely have a board presence with the deck I play. Maybe I'll try it out sometime.
Ah, so that's what I ran into the other day on my Rogue, I was wondering why there were chargers all over the place suddenly.
Thanks. I guess they are all on twitch?
RIP Wild Nacatl
Well, "aggro" still doesn't really mean "just hits you in the face a lot." It's really more about ... well, being the aggressor early on. That means playing more early creatures, taking board presence early, and being in position to threaten face damage. It doesn't really mean to ignore the board for hitting them in the face. Again, due to the game being attacker advantaged, this is sort of unique to Hearthstone; by being aggressive, you control the board since you're the one dictating how trades work.
...and then there are the "I play dudes and hit you in the face with them and win before I lose" ones :x
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