The game lacks cards at the moment. Simple as that
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Hearthstone |OT| Why tap cards when you can roll need [Naxx final wing out now]
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The game lacks cards at the moment. Simple as that
Officerrob
Banned
I have a feeling the burnout after Naxx will come REAL quick. Just not enough cards, and the content output is too slow
Yep it's a self-fixing problem so I'm not worried. Just annoyed by the zoo players whining about decks that actually require thinking to win with :b
Been playing Kolento Hunter lately. I like to play smart and control the board early, then from turn 5 try to figure out how to end the game. Main issue I'm running into is that it doesn't have any sweepers, but the win rate has still been excellent because it demolishes Freeze Mage. I win almost every game by using Flare to destroy an Ice Block.
That and I'm wondering if Blizzard is happy with the revenue from the game....it's almost silly to spend money in the current model. Maybe they should have charged $9.99 and kept the current monetization model intact...
I just hope that there is sufficient economic motivation for Blizzard to step up the content delivery.
KojiKnight
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Hearthstone is doing them fine. Like all F2P games, it's the whales that are feeding the game, and the whales want gold decks. I've seen several in my ladder climbs, so I know there are people out there keeping them fat and happy.
Minsc
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I'd estimate it to have made a dozen or two million by now and it's probably bringing in over 1 million a month easily (maybe seeing spikes to 5M/month in months where there's new content to buy). It's been in the 10th-20th spot of top grossing apps consistently since launch on iOS over a month ago (currently #24), which alone is worth quite a bit, and it really hasn't done anything since launch as far as giving people a reason to spend money. If they never release any new content, it'll slowly fade out to nothing.
Professor Lich
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Do we know how many people are playing? I don't think I remember seeing an article or anything on that yet.
What I really find odd is the top in app purchase on the iPad version is arena admission. It's so easy to get the gold for it but people are happy just paying the $1.50. That money adds up along with packs and given the popularity of this game I'd imagine Blizz is more than happy with the revenue it's producing.
Don't mind me taunting those eggs as a control deck
But you are right zoo wille xplode come Naxx until control decks find their groove later on.
Minsc
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They had said they had over 10 million accounts before the iPad launch, so a fairly safe guess is they probably have 2-5 million active players now (people who play at least a few times a week) with a few million more on the way when Android hits.
Professor Lich
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Crazy. That's pretty quick for a new game, but I suppose it is from Blizzard. Then again, they did have both a closed and open beta as well.
It's actually not, not to my knowledge anyway.
Whales are nice, but what really makes F2P profitable are the average users who spend $5 here or there, every few weeks. That consistent revenue is what F2P hinges on, not the big spenders.
KojiKnight
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http://venturebeat.com/2014/02/26/o...-50-percent-of-all-in-game-revenue-exclusive/
Whales make the money in F2P games, the average user tends to spend nothing and those that DO spend money tend to spend not that much.
Hm, alright. I guess I was focusing too much on the Leeg side of things.
one of the big problems with hearthstone is the lack of new content in the near future. I mean, we probably get Naxx soon(tm) with thirty-something new cards and a fun singleplayer mode,but who knows how long we'll have to wait for the next expansion. As someone who's played the game since October in closed beta, I'm really getting tired of the very limited card pool and I can't see myself spending much time with the game in the coming months
remember when they said we're going to get the Naxx pricing info on July 1 - three days ago
and then they backed off that statement and said it'll be later than that
Lactose_Intolerant
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then what happens after a month?
Mobius and pet octopus
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I am playing a deck I am working on for lock and just had an interesting match.
Playing vs paladin, I had like 3 cards left in my deck including leeroy. He has 26ish hp but no cards in hand and only 1 1/1 recruit.
I have 4 hp and I know he has like 5 different cards at least in his deck he could kill me with next turn.
I have gadgetzan and a molten giant. I play poweroverwhelming on gadgetzan, shadowbolt his 1/1. I hit him for 16 damage. He is down to 10.
I have 1 card left in my deck and I recognize that it had to be leeroy, 6 mana, and 2 soulfires in hand. Soulfire face, draw my leeroy and hit for lethal.
Deck needs ton of work still but it is meant to be a midrange/combo lock deck, alternative to handlock. I call it Change Lock.
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I wish I had pit lords and jaraxxus for this deck tho =(
Playing vs paladin, I had like 3 cards left in my deck including leeroy. He has 26ish hp but no cards in hand and only 1 1/1 recruit.
I have 4 hp and I know he has like 5 different cards at least in his deck he could kill me with next turn.
I have gadgetzan and a molten giant. I play poweroverwhelming on gadgetzan, shadowbolt his 1/1. I hit him for 16 damage. He is down to 10.
I have 1 card left in my deck and I recognize that it had to be leeroy, 6 mana, and 2 soulfires in hand. Soulfire face, draw my leeroy and hit for lethal.
Deck needs ton of work still but it is meant to be a midrange/combo lock deck, alternative to handlock. I call it Change Lock.
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I wish I had pit lords and jaraxxus for this deck tho =(
KojiKnight
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The plan is still to release in July... which means September because Blizzard.
FTFY.
Truth be told I think they will have it out by the end of July/early August since they have been really good about their release schedules as of late.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Oh wow, this match vs miracle rogue as my warlock.
Turn 3 I play mukla bringing him to 9 cards.
The moron saps it. I play it again causing him full hand.
Then he plays banana on mukla, hits face with dagger, and eviscerates which of course doesn't kill him because banana brought him to 6 (dagger + eviscerate = 5).
I've never seen such bad plays ever before. I guess miracle rogue does take an iota of intelligence to play (jk).
I think I've seen that deck. Is it the one that uses arcane golem + 2x PO, faceless?
Either way I am more into building my own deck
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My deck is way different in design. I even have corruptionx2 heheh.
Still not sure if I want to keep gadgetzan or put azure drake though. I might remove an auctioneer though since I don't feel it is necessary for me to have 2.
Turn 3 I play mukla bringing him to 9 cards.
The moron saps it. I play it again causing him full hand.
Then he plays banana on mukla, hits face with dagger, and eviscerates which of course doesn't kill him because banana brought him to 6 (dagger + eviscerate = 5).
I've never seen such bad plays ever before. I guess miracle rogue does take an iota of intelligence to play (jk).
I think I've seen that deck. Is it the one that uses arcane golem + 2x PO, faceless?
Either way I am more into building my own deck
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My deck is way different in design. I even have corruptionx2 heheh.
Still not sure if I want to keep gadgetzan or put azure drake though. I might remove an auctioneer though since I don't feel it is necessary for me to have 2.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Just did the following 28 damage combo:
leeroy, poweroverwhelming, faceless, double soulfire.
Sucks to be you, paladin!
I even had like 9 card hand so pretty high chance for that to work but if it failed I feel like I had a huge advantage having two molten giants, such a huge hand, and nearly full hp myself. I think I was at max hand size.
leeroy, poweroverwhelming, faceless, double soulfire.
Sucks to be you, paladin!
I even had like 9 card hand so pretty high chance for that to work but if it failed I feel like I had a huge advantage having two molten giants, such a huge hand, and nearly full hp myself. I think I was at max hand size.
How many don't require leeroy/other prerequisites?
Mobius and pet octopus
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I don't think it was bullshit. I mean I was at like 28 hp with 10 cards in hand on turn 10. I don't even feel like that was a cheap win. I felt like I played that match very well.
When I designed that deck I didn't even think of relying on a combo like that.
Also, just fyi...
bluegill + poweroverwhelming x2 + faceless + soulfire x2 is the same amount of damage for 1 less mana.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Oops double posted, meant to edit last post.
Like the one above with bluegill,
Just replace with arcane golem or wolfrider and add 1 mana to the cost, but with more damage.
arcane golem + 2xPO + faceless = 24, +2xsoulfire = 32
Wolfrider has 1 less attack power so it comes to be a clean 30
So that is 3 other combos without leeroy
Like the one above with bluegill,
Just replace with arcane golem or wolfrider and add 1 mana to the cost, but with more damage.
arcane golem + 2xPO + faceless = 24, +2xsoulfire = 32
Wolfrider has 1 less attack power so it comes to be a clean 30
So that is 3 other combos without leeroy
Professor Lich
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I know how we can fix the game guys!
Lets just limit everyone to two spells per turn! It'll fix everything.
Lets just limit everyone to two spells per turn! It'll fix everything.
Mobius and pet octopus
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One minion a game and 1 spell every two turns.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It is more like "on death effects" or cards revolving around death, than the expansion revolving around deathrattle. Although clearly there are a couple new deathrattles being added.
Minsc
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It's not an expansion, it's just a PVE adventure. It's only bringing in a single class card per class, and two dozen neutrals. At best it'd just be a mish-mash of randomness if it didn't have some sort of focus being only 30 cards. The first expansion will be ~150 cards (maybe more if they get ambitious like with the first PVE content), and that will be what brings a well rounded mix of cards.
Professor Lich
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You and I, we have great ideas. We should write a letter to Blizzard.
Also, introduce a gem economy to play more spells per turn. Have a cooldown on matches so you can play one per hour unless you spend gems. Etc etc
Sounds like fun, right guys?
TheChewyWaffles
Member
Holy shit I hate you.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I was watching someone stream yesterday who had a warlock shadowflame his board of like 6 minions with 2 armor smiths. It was just absolutely necessary to avoid dying, but at the same time pretty much ensuring a win outside of some extreme unkillable wall taunt replacements and then somehow winning by fatigue I guess.
Officerrob
Banned
What year should we look forward to that?
2018, if they're quick about it.
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