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Hearthstone |OT| Why tap cards when you can roll need [Naxx final wing out now]
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There are 4 targeted mind controls, 2 when there's 4+ units, and 2 temporary mind controls. Gonna have to be more specific about which one you are talking about
chickdigger802
Banned
It's not even that. They just are way too slow and suck ass against all the fast decks.
How do you add 12 dmg for only 1-4 mana?
Minsc
Gold Member
Windfury + Rockbiter is +12 for 3 right? You can get close to 30 easy too, if they left you some board presence on the turn you drop Leeroy.
For fun: Turn 3: Feral Spirt, Turn 4: FFT, Turn 5: Earth Elemental, Turn 6: FFT, Turn 7 Leeroy + Rockbiter + Windfury, hitting for up to 37 that turn, depending on which things they remove in the prior turns.
Touche.
I've been thinking about adding another win condition like the Leeroy + Windfury combo to my Shaman deck. Might have to toy around with that idea and see if it could work. Not sure what to replace, though.
Is Earth Elemental good again? Last time I played it, it instantly got Black Knighted or BGHed 9/10 times.
The missing 1/10 was Faceless Manipulator into sad face combo 
Depends entirely on the match-up and what the minion is. Is it a a Knife Juggler? Slam the fuck out of it. Hunter aggro, Warlock Zoo or Murlock? Slam the fuck out of it.
It also depends on the hand and how desperate I am to fix it with card draw.
Edit: This really answered nothing. I guess the bigger question I ask myself is how many turns am I considering letting this 3/2 live just so I maybe get to draw a card down the road. If my hand has no early gas to deal with it (Armorsmith + damage to ping it, Fiery War Axe), I have to ask what kind of hand I kept anyway. Most decks that run random 3/2s out on early turns are an aggro deck, however, so you'd usually just Slam it due to that and accept that your goal here is to not die until you can stick a massive threat that is outside their range.
It also depends on the hand and how desperate I am to fix it with card draw.
Edit: This really answered nothing. I guess the bigger question I ask myself is how many turns am I considering letting this 3/2 live just so I maybe get to draw a card down the road. If my hand has no early gas to deal with it (Armorsmith + damage to ping it, Fiery War Axe), I have to ask what kind of hand I kept anyway. Most decks that run random 3/2s out on early turns are an aggro deck, however, so you'd usually just Slam it due to that and accept that your goal here is to not die until you can stick a massive threat that is outside their range.
Sometimes I'm just stumped as to what to do in this game, like here:
http://i.imgur.com/CUdlLFD.jpg
What's the correct move?
http://i.imgur.com/CUdlLFD.jpg
What's the correct move?
Reconnect feature on the iPad isn't well done, I've disconnected from the last 5 games and it takes a solid minute to get back in, most of the he time you are hitting the rope or your turn is over
So I am sure this has been talked about countless times here, but I really suck at arena. Like SUCK. But I enjoy playing it (until I get frustrated cause I have never won more than 3 matches...)
Does anyone have any general tips to draft a better deck? I think more often than not I fall into the "drafting the best card out of the 3," and draft a shitty deck lol...
Does anyone have any general tips to draft a better deck? I think more often than not I fall into the "drafting the best card out of the 3," and draft a shitty deck lol...
I like these rankings
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AifXEOqTcGcLdFVvWk1GRjVJTHJUaTVLcGViR1RRTFE&gid=20
And read this to know why those cards are good. http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/arena-strategy/513-trumps-arena-tier-list-neutral-commons
And just keep an eye on your mana curve. Early on I just draft the best cards, but you'll also want to make sure you don't end up with too many expensive cards or too many cheap ones. You can't always just pick the highest ranked card. After about 15 cards I usually start drafting based on a curve.
FieryBalrog
Member
It's obviously not a weapon, it has health instead of durability and it has the minion card frame.
Probably a "dancing swords" minion or some such.
Probably a "dancing swords" minion or some such.
OJdaKiller
Member
That's the upcoming rogue card-Mutilate.
Trade w/ the harvest golem, then use stormpike to finish off the add, summon a guy, attack to face w/ turtle. That's how i'd play it at least. I'm no expert though.
burntchomsky
Member
If this is a new card, it's got a common rarity, meaning that unless they are classifying the adventure mode cards under a rarity system (which is possible, but I had just assumed that they would be basic cards), this is something other than an adventure mode card.
what I'd do is run my pyromancer into the harvest golem, drop the stormpike commando and clean up the other golem that sprouts, then run turtle into swordsmith. Probably use class power to make a dude, as overextending with your bloodsail probably isn't worth it considering he may have a flamestrike in hand. Yeah times when you have to leave a minion around on the board are difficult, and then you just have to make a judgment call.
Minsc
Gold Member
One of the ways I imagined adventure mode working is it is like a 10 stage fight or whatever, and there are ~15 possible cards to get from it (maybe: 1 legendary, 2 epics, 4 rares, 8 commons), and each time you finish the 10 stages you get a card at random (with normal odds of it being the legendary one 1% of the time, epic about 5%, rare 20% and common 74%). So you'd have to replay adventure mode 100s of times each month to get the full set from that month unless you were lucky and didn't get too many repeats.
It's DK Dancing Rune Weapon
KojiKnight
Member
To add to this, In miracle it's also incredibly easy to drop leeroy then use shadow step twice for 18 damage (for 8 mana total). Add a couple cold bloods to it and that's 26 damage for 10 mana. If you have preparation, you can even throw a finishing eviscerate for 30 damage in one turn with nothing on the board before hand.
Obviously this would require a ton of cards and would be incredibly unlikely, but it just shows how well Leeroy can be comboed with cards in a deck that's more or less designed around using him.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Depends on the miracle rogue deck. There are a couple variants. Some depend on getting auctioneer more than others. Plus just the fact that you need to draw one of 2 out 30 cards in your deck makes it somewhat unreliable. They do have shiv, sometimes acolyte, and fan of knives to help though.
ShinNL
Member
And Azure Drake is like a mini Gadgetzan too.
KojiKnight
Member
Leeroy + 2 shadow steps? Yeah... but all of the games I've played miracle I can't think of a single time where my stars aligned THAT well.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
My play is kill the swordsmith with the Pyromancer, leaving him alive *though pyro blast will probably kill him).
Use the Stormpike + Turtle to kill the Harvest. Summon a 1/1.
Leaves a 2/1, but forces their hero power to remove your 3/1 pyro.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Did battlnet just go down or something? Can't even connect to the launcher.
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I guess I dc'd and the reconnect feature is dumb since I decided to close (fail to connect to battlenet) then wait a whole minute before trying to reconnect so I lost a match which I am pretty sure was in the bag.
edit:
I guess I dc'd and the reconnect feature is dumb since I decided to close (fail to connect to battlenet) then wait a whole minute before trying to reconnect so I lost a match which I am pretty sure was in the bag.
Minsc
Gold Member
Then you leave yourself open to a Flamestrike clearing your whole board. Better to leave a mixed board of one minion at 2 health and another at 7 by going with georly's plan above. Forces him to trade in to the 4/2 with his 1/3 + hero power or use a spell. That hand desperately needs a top deck of a weapon either way.
JetBlackPanda
Member
how does it work with card backs? are there different ones? I remember reading something about getting to rank 20 in ranked play or something?
Minsc
Gold Member
New card back every pvp season, for reaching rank 20, awarded at the end of the season. You instantly get the card back for reaching legendary though, upon reaching it (so I imagine people already have seen that - same as the animated hero portraits).
The Lamonster
Member
an exclusive 'PAX East' card is my guess.
Awesome, I'll check those out! Thanks!
I doubt it
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
We have to crack the code for the US version to upload so hurry guys
Professor Lich
Member
Maybe it's the first neutral spell. One damage magical knives to test the waters. It's obviously a minion card right now but that's just a subterfuge.
jstevenson
Sailor Stevenson
that's what dust is for?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Just beat my first player who had a gold hero portrait, and it was a miracle rogue, so double plus for me.
The mana addict/VC variant.
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Dang, this paladin had such a strong opening.
Redemption
loot hoarder (I killed it knowing it would revive)
then he BOKs it (didn't expect that
I had to take 12 damage from it to take it out
Then I slowly made my way back (cause I had board control after killing the BOK'd loot hoarder).
Lucky SOB gets a turn 8 tirion (no sap in hand, but black knight, I have 12 hp so I am safe from some finishers). I had lethal though if he didn't kill me, turns out I also top decked a leeroy either way.
The mana addict/VC variant.
edit:
Dang, this paladin had such a strong opening.
Redemption
loot hoarder (I killed it knowing it would revive)
then he BOKs it (didn't expect that
I had to take 12 damage from it to take it out
Then I slowly made my way back (cause I had board control after killing the BOK'd loot hoarder).
Lucky SOB gets a turn 8 tirion (no sap in hand, but black knight, I have 12 hp so I am safe from some finishers). I had lethal though if he didn't kill me, turns out I also top decked a leeroy either way.
Poverty variant.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
How is it a poverty variant? it is pretty strong plus the guy had a ton of gold cards
I think I won cause he didn't pull his second conceal.
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