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Hearthstone |OT| Why tap cards when you can roll need [Naxx final wing out now]
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Minsc
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You may have not finished your free arena then? You need to accrue three loses before your arena is over, or win 12 games. Or you can retire early, but there's no benefit to that.
Each arena entry @ 150 gold gives back a guaranteed expert pack (valued at 100 gold). So you are only out 50 gold in the worst case scenario, if you get nothing else and lose all your games. Once you win 3-4 games you tend to get 50g back (plus the pack of cards), this is called breaking even as you put in 150g, and got back 150g between the 50g and 100g pack. Winning 7 games gets you 150 gold back (plus the pack of cards worth 100g), this is called going infinite, since you can immediately fund another arena with the winnings alone, and continue playing arenas for packs of cards forever, as long as you win 7+ games. Sometimes you can get up to around 500 gold if you're really lucky, which pays for 3 more arenas.
TheContact
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One thing I noticed about ipad version is it seems to play well under 60fps, PC is more fluid, even compared to ipad air. I still enjoy playing it on ipad way more than on PC though
I got a legendary last night, blew 300 gold on three packs. Cairne. Had him already, so immediately dusted, but it does happen!
Been a month+ since I've gotten a pack, though, Diablo style safety net?!!
.Thanks a ton for the explanation. I've avoided the arena because it sounded like a poor value compared to simply spending gold on packs, but it sounds pretty compelling.
Play warrior control.
I suspect it will spike with new content and slowly fall down until the next release. The reason I think this is that Blizzard doesn't seem like the kind of dev that can commit to a constant schedule of upgrades and improvements, and is certainly not like other F2P devs that pretty much have weekly additions or things like seasonal events every other week.
It is both a pro and a con in my opinion, and one of the reasons I dislike their online only policies. This game is fine with that at least, so I will not hold it against them in this case.
I have a lot of fun with my Druid (not token) and Shaman, but if I'm lucky I'm getting a 55-60% win rate with both past rank 10 where pretty much everyone plays the same thing.
I'd much rather play this on my laptop. Having to hold a finger down on the screen to zoom a card is silly because, well, now your hand is in the way. Nothing a simple patch couldn't fix though (lol)
Warrior Control can be crushed by the current Hunter deck.
But the time investment here...how many hours per day does your approach require?
Minsc
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If you are going to arena again, you can also download the tool from arenavalue.com to help you draft. While you can't listen to it methodically, it does help you see certain cards in a different light if you aren't very familiar with what cards are strongest, and it will weigh you choices against what you have drafted so if you are missing 5-drops or 3-drops, it will value them higher, as generally playing a drop on right on key (4-drop turn 4, 5-drop turn 5, etc) is all one has to do to win.
arenavalue doesn't make you win, but it doesn't hurt imo. Especially if you're not floating 1,000s of gold, where a poor run or two wouldn't even be noticed.
Arena is a funny thing. It works best at minimal hours per day and many hours per day. Minimal hours per day because you get to run infinite arenas simply due to the fact that you can't exhaust your gold fast enough. And then once you've mastered arena and can average 5+, many hours a day will let you fill out your library.
If you're just looking to play 3-4 games per day (that's like a 40 minute investment), a single arena can last you 3 days (playing out a 7-3 run, 10 games @ 4 games per day, would be 2.5 days). If you pick away your dailies while playing arena (get the ones that are not tied to specific classes), you can infinite arenas very easily, even with a bad ratio of 3-3 or so.
RumblingRosco
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In Arena, I'm Mage (sorry!) against Shaman. I'm going second.
His turn 1: Plays Dust Devil.
My turn 1: Coin, Fireblast the Dust Devil. My opponent promptly "Oops'd".
Poor guy. Mages are dirty and I feel dirty.
His turn 1: Plays Dust Devil.
My turn 1: Coin, Fireblast the Dust Devil. My opponent promptly "Oops'd".
Poor guy. Mages are dirty and I feel dirty.
Yes, I love playing the arena. Try it out
Lol. Don't. Dust devil shouldn't be played against a Mage turn 1 lol
I think I know the answer to this, but...
As someone playing casually, there's nothing to lose by DE'ing complex cards to craft basic cards in a fairly empty deck, right?
I got a gold Angry Chicken last night. I read some ways to make it a pretty effective card, but it feels like I'd be better off trading it for one of the countless rares that would stand on its own.
As someone playing casually, there's nothing to lose by DE'ing complex cards to craft basic cards in a fairly empty deck, right?
I got a gold Angry Chicken last night. I read some ways to make it a pretty effective card, but it feels like I'd be better off trading it for one of the countless rares that would stand on its own.
SlickShoes
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I hit rank 9 the other day and all I see now are hunters, beast that gains life when a beast dies, buzzards and hounds. That's it all the time every time. If I get a shit draw there is no way I can beat it, if I change decks to counter it all of sudden im not playing hunters any more, change back to normal deck start playing hunters again.
Sliding back down the ranks now.
Sliding back down the ranks now.
in almost two months of playing i've seen that card used approximately 1 time.
Starting to think that this game is Blizzard's gateway drug to WoW 2. It's been over a decade since Blizzard's last non-MMO Warcraft game and you've lost a generation of older Warcraft fans who really don't have the time for MMOs/gaming anymore. Hearthstone will create a whole new pool of Warcraft fans who will love to jump into a new WoW MMO that brings all these cool cards to life.
zorlaczerohero
Banned
I saw it today in Arena, my only thought was which two cards were worse than Angry Chicken that he picked it.
chickdigger802
Banned
i might be crazy, but i have more fun losing than winning, well close game wins are the best, but a legit GG is more fun than an overwhelming victory, especially if its a deck im not familiar against.
Unless that MMO is also on iPad, I don't really know. Asking someone to try out a hot, new game by a AAA developer for free on iPad is a lot easier than asking them to turn their PC on and install dozens of gigs of data for an MMO. I've spent over 100 dollars over the last 6 months on Hearthstone, and I can tell you there is a zero percent chance of me playing an MMO due to the fact that I hate the genera.
chickdigger802
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kinda crazy that a trading card game is topping the free chart on ipad.
Control Warrior deck lost to my Control Warrior deck last night due to Baron Geddon.
He played Geddon when I had Sylvanas out. We each only had one minion. So I shield slammed Sylvanas to steal Geddon and he had to Gorehowl (and take, technically, 9 damage) to get rid of Geddon. That alone sealed the deal since after that the initiative was on my side (he used most of his mana for Gorehowl so he had to react the rest of the night).
Climbed to rank 11 before I hit the Hunter army. Crafting Geddon tonight due to suggestions here since I do see how he could be very useful.
He played Geddon when I had Sylvanas out. We each only had one minion. So I shield slammed Sylvanas to steal Geddon and he had to Gorehowl (and take, technically, 9 damage) to get rid of Geddon. That alone sealed the deal since after that the initiative was on my side (he used most of his mana for Gorehowl so he had to react the rest of the night).
Climbed to rank 11 before I hit the Hunter army. Crafting Geddon tonight due to suggestions here since I do see how he could be very useful.
Gully State
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I downloaded this for my ipad just last night and I have to say this game really has been the most fun I've had with a blizzard game in a long while. Easy quick to pick up game with just enough depth. Kudos to Blizz.
I actually think Heroes of the Storm would work on recent iPad's, maybe scaled down a little.
It's hard to use. I have been trying to make a troll deck that uses it that is maybe as close to as effective as my paladin + pirate troll deck; it's a real challenge.
It's just too much effort to get it working, and if you want to put effort in, why not just use Amani Berserker, a common, which is basically 1 more mana for an actual relevant body (2/3)?
Plus, the work isn't worth it most of the time. If Hungry Crab is actually useful in a game, it's a complete blowout, but Angry Chicken just doesn't provide that.
Couchaddict
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It's Tuesday.
Seems to be down in EU too.
Thanks for the advice, everyone. I've been trying to avoid DE'ing anything, since I'm still playing through the get-everyone-to-level-10 game, and I'm not sure which deck I'd like to focus on building.
Another question... Once I've got all the basic decks done, is that the best time to dump some money in the game? Seems like $20 for a good amount of rare cards would have the most impact when I'm just starting out, as opposed to later on.
Sorry for the basic questions, I've never played a TCG but I've really enjoyed this on my iPad.
Another question... Once I've got all the basic decks done, is that the best time to dump some money in the game? Seems like $20 for a good amount of rare cards would have the most impact when I'm just starting out, as opposed to later on.
Sorry for the basic questions, I've never played a TCG but I've really enjoyed this on my iPad.
depths20XX
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Yes, I'd say early on, once you've put 5-10 hours into the game and realize you're enjoying it, is the best time to spend some money on packs. Later down the line when you've already opened a ton of packs you start getting diminishing returns and you'll mostly just be getting a bit of dust.
Same here. I am also totally new to this kind of game. Got into it from the promotion in Diablo 3 and I decided to try it out on my iPad.
Perfect iPad game. I have put into about 3 hours now, that's more than I've ever played an iPad game
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The Lamonster
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Tuesday lunchtime maintenance is a regular thing in Blizzard games. Just plan on it happening every week.
Gully State
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ugh can't even play against bots offline? That blows...
Diminishing returns is exactly what I was thinking.
I've just been doing daily quests since the iPad releas. I did manage to beat all of the expert AI, which was pretty eye opening regarding what the classes can do; that certainly translated into better ranked play.
I think right now, with the dailies being class-specific that the most important thing is to get all of the basic decks open. I've been lucky so far to get the dailies done with the three basic decks I've completed.
If you want to get better at the game you really should not buy packs. If you buy arena plays then you're learning the game and the cards while getting packs. If you watch enough good players on twitch.tv and use sites like arenavalue.com to help with your draft you will improve your play while getting your cards.
Haha I beat someone with that yesterday, he had 4 minions and lethal on the board and yolo Rag took him out.
johnny_park
Member
I've never played a card game before. This game is really fun. Don't know what I'm doing half the time though.
jstevenson
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Man. I have a great Pally Arena deck.
But this Warrior had me by the balls. Used his hand for some big combos that I fought off, but was basically out of health, no board presence, and he had a Blood Knight who was 6/2 (off of his divine crusader, which I had consecrated), and then topdecked Baron Geddon. So he had 13 on the board and a 1/3 weapon, and I had 8 health.
Ruh-roh.
I had guardian of kings, which might've bought me a turn, but wasn't really going to improve the situation. I also had Avenging Wrath, but without killing Baron, it wouldn't matter, and if it left theblood knight, I'd be hosed too.
But it was my only option, so I played it:
5 to Baron
2 to blood knight
1 to the face.
board cleared.
he got me down to 1 HP again, and I drew my True Silver and got back to five and had huge card advantage and then kept the board clear.
Crazy game, I felt bad.
But this Warrior had me by the balls. Used his hand for some big combos that I fought off, but was basically out of health, no board presence, and he had a Blood Knight who was 6/2 (off of his divine crusader, which I had consecrated), and then topdecked Baron Geddon. So he had 13 on the board and a 1/3 weapon, and I had 8 health.
Ruh-roh.
I had guardian of kings, which might've bought me a turn, but wasn't really going to improve the situation. I also had Avenging Wrath, but without killing Baron, it wouldn't matter, and if it left theblood knight, I'd be hosed too.
But it was my only option, so I played it:
5 to Baron
2 to blood knight
1 to the face.
board cleared.
he got me down to 1 HP again, and I drew my True Silver and got back to five and had huge card advantage and then kept the board clear.
Crazy game, I felt bad.
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