RumblingRosco
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Same here. I figured this out a few months ago actually. I get more excited seeing my draft options than I do opening packs considering how little I play Constructed.
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Same here. I figured this out a few months ago actually. I get more excited seeing my draft options than I do opening packs considering how little I play Constructed.
Minsc
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This is my current Shaman deck, it does ok against Hunter.
Has a very strong board presence (in the sense what goes on the board is mine not yours), and is very punishing for not removing on the Hunter's part, and an early UTH to do so usually won't kill me. Generally I see hunter as a close match, not a hopeless battle. I think that's the best you can hope for. I try to rush down a Hunter's HP as quick as I can, even if it means having 3 creatures on the board (I generally go for 2 + any number of taunts I can get though). If I can get to lethal by turn 6 or 7 (by doing ~4+ a turn), or if they use their UTH to prevent me from reaching it first, instead of for killing me, I've succeeded.
RumblingRosco
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Minsc
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That works, but I am equally fine with going first and starting with turn 1: leper gnome or argent squire, turn 2: FTT w/ 3-4 damage to the face, and increasing every turn after. If they address my board instead of using their hero power, that is an extra turn they allow me to reach lethal before I'm dead.
I've been burnt too much lately by drawing Unbound Elemental late game where its a dead draw that I've backed away from running two of them.
The problem is if you spend your first two turns doing nothing but summoning a totem; you'll probably never win as you're then probably not even attacking them until turn 4, at which point they probably are half-way to their end game.
Any tips in particular? I think I'm still pretty bad at drafting arena decks, things never seem to work out very well. Getting better for sure though.
Watch streamers on Twitch (or Youtube VODs) play Arena and learn from them. I basically learned everything I know from Hafu and Trump.
I haven't played too much. I only have 90something arena wins so i have probably only played 15-20 times? I may have had a few times going 2/3 now that I think about it actually.
Summer. I am expecting it in June-August
Easiest solution is playing a class with a better match-up. That said, they're better vs the new flavor of Hunter than the old style simply by virtue of them being more midrange focused. Still, it's not that great of a match-up and just comes down to sticking your burst faster than them.
jstevenson
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midrange hunter is so dirty.
Just played a Druid who was total anti aggro, Sunfuries, Defender of Arguses, senjin etc. Innervated an early Black Knight to kill my 4/4 hippo companion. still didn't matter. double buzzarded a UTH, drew almost my whole deck (he couldn't remove the 2nd buzzard... causing me to even accidentally burn my second UTH as an 11th card draw). then houndmastered a savannah highmane which cut him off and ensured no ironbark protector could save him, before finishing him with Leeroy.
just filthy. And I still had 2 kill commands, a timber wolf, hunter's mark and a scavenging hyena in hand.
Just played a Druid who was total anti aggro, Sunfuries, Defender of Arguses, senjin etc. Innervated an early Black Knight to kill my 4/4 hippo companion. still didn't matter. double buzzarded a UTH, drew almost my whole deck (he couldn't remove the 2nd buzzard... causing me to even accidentally burn my second UTH as an 11th card draw). then houndmastered a savannah highmane which cut him off and ensured no ironbark protector could save him, before finishing him with Leeroy.
just filthy. And I still had 2 kill commands, a timber wolf, hunter's mark and a scavenging hyena in hand.
Trump seems to be doing pretty well against hunter with his F2P Shaman deck. Check out his youtube channel.
It's druids who have swipe.
#Iseewhatyoudidthere
shadowstar
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I taught someone who was struggling as a relatively new player Kolento's deck on hearthpwn. He was making so many mistakes and could still pull off a win with the insane card draw. What have I done...?
Buzzard is the problem moreso than UTH. UTH is ridiculous too, but that bird is the reason. Raise the cost of both cards imo.
Buzzard is the problem moreso than UTH. UTH is ridiculous too, but that bird is the reason. Raise the cost of both cards imo.
RumblingRosco
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I'd settle for UTH summoning 2-3 doges (make it a 50/50 chance for 2 or 3 and have it not matter what minions the opponent has on the board) and Buzzard to only 2 card draws per turn or something. Provides the RNG that Blizzard loves, limits the amount of cards that can be drawn on a given turn, and gives opponents no reason to fear playing more than 2 minions.
Not a fan of the nerf to the Buzzard in your suggestion. Part of the fun of the game is to set up crazy situations, like when your armorsmith gives you like 5 armor or you manage a 5 card draw with a Gadgetzan Auctioneer or max out the 4/2 whose name I always forget as I don't use it that draws when a friendly minion dies.
I know I harped on it yesterday, but is it really UTH that kills or is it other forms of DD like Kill Command or the constant pressure of a 2 damage hero power?
I am trying a F2P Hunter on EU. Not using any one deck as a reference, just based off of the obvious stuff and what I've seen work for others. I want to see how far I can go given my medium skill level. I used achievement gold to buy packs and got a couple of good ones that I DE'd to make 2x UTH, 1x Eaglethorn Bow and 1x Hyena.
The Hero Power is what really helps this style work. It means that they always have damage on you and will inevitably close the game out. This is a bigger issue in a game where the attacker is advantaged to begin with and there's so much from hand burst.
It's really a combination of a lot of factors.
NoSkillz187
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What are some good Rogue decks?
Fine, then you can watch me take the maximum amount of time i need each turn even if its turn 1
Leatherface
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Playing this on the iPad right now. Fun as hell game but damn am I getting spanked. I tried making a custom deck and I got spanked 10 times harder. :'(
Question: If I'm not using custom decks will the game pair me with people that are? I feel a strong "pay to win" vibe going on with some of these ridiculous abilities getting thrown at me. Or maybe I just suck? Could be a combo of both. haha
Question: If I'm not using custom decks will the game pair me with people that are? I feel a strong "pay to win" vibe going on with some of these ridiculous abilities getting thrown at me. Or maybe I just suck? Could be a combo of both. haha
ShinNL
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Well done, young pawadan.
Mutually Assured Time Wasting.
Look, it's not my fault Blizzard makes me take forever to draw cards. If the client was as fast as Magic, I could go through my most complex turns in 10 seconds.
partyphone
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they had to slow it down to minimize game breaking bugs. like when cards would stack in your hand.
RumblingRosco
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I expect card draw animations to be sped up in a future patch.
partyphone
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you have a hidden rating that is used for matchmaking and the cards you own have nothing to do with it.
and you almost certainly suck. we all did when we first started. you can't really pay to win in this game.
It's a card game with depth and you just started. You will need to learn the game/cards to be successful.
Yeah. It's pretty easy to do as long as you use a solid deck. I did it with icyveins' Mage deck, but there's probably better ones.
For priests this should be able to do it pretty easily too.
http://www.hearthhead.com/deck=25/d...-50-in-north-america-for-constructed-pre-wipe)
Constructed just straight up doesn't have enough variety in gameplay.
partyphone
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dat goldshire footman
Mobius and pet octopus
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The Lamonster
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I've been to Goldshine. Seen some fucked up shit.
Robin64
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Hey I'm new to this.
Note the rank, too.I'm assuming Goldshire Footman is not worthy of being in any deck, then?
I should say - the basic, pre-built deck you get when you first unlock a class. I've been trying and I can't do it. Using a "good" deck like Zoo I can walk all over Expert AI, but I feel like I should be able to do it using the stock, basic decks for each class.
partyphone
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Hey I'm new to this.
I'm assuming Goldshire Footman is not worthy of being in any deck, then?
no it's cool we all ran that guy at some point. he's super awful.
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