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cHinzo

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Got my 12 wins with that OP Paladin deck I drafted. My first time in arena! I've started playing since 2~3 weeks ago and arena is seriously the funnest mode in HS. The last game was an easy win against the enemy mage. I had double Shielded Minibots in my hand, together with a Piloted Shredder. Drew Argent Protector, Muster for Battle and Lord of the Arena in my following turns. Got a card to play every turn, while the enemy was struggling to get board control lol.

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This was the deck I drafted.

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The rewards were aight.

Time to go for another one! Drafting is more fun than playing tbh. :d
 

gutshot

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Do you have Dr Balanced?

If so then yes.

If not then spend dust on Dr Balanced immediately.

I do. He was the first legendary I crafted. I had no problem crafting him since I view it as an investment. I'm going to get my 1600 dust back at some point. And any dupes I may unpack would be a bonus.

I'm scared to craft Sylv though, what if I get her in a pack soon after?
 

Heropon

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I had a good streak in Arena a few weeks ago and I thought I was getting better but it was just good luck. This is ridiculous.

Edit: A semicontructed Zoolock appeared, thankfully he used The Beast and I had BGH again. One turn away from death.
 

Brofist

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Nef and Rag are both equally hard to play just in different ways.

Knowing when to use your hero power and when to play minions on board... when to board control and when to go face is key to playing Nef playing well. Also holding on to your cards to counter Rag's hero power if he does make it that far. Not to mention making a ton of on the spot combination plays with the random spells you get. Because of that you could make the argument that Nef actually has a higher skill cap than Rag.

With Rag you only play one way... survive the onslaught and try to kill whatever he plays on board. You know what your deck is so you play with it. With Nef you don't know what you will get so you need to make plays on the spot.

Rag is simply "harder" to play because he's harder to win as he's just way worse than Nef. I still see many people make terrible plays with Nef because at times they are overwhelmed with the cards in hand and their options. On the flipside, I see Rag players make less mistakes yet still get shut out by worse Nef players.

I don't agree, Nef is easy mode. After seeing Kripp lose to a Nef player making rank 25 ladder level mistakes I'm pretty sure anyone with Nef is favored to win.
 

Brofist

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Okay. I just hit a double Kezan druid. Something is in the water.

Time to bust out no secret decks.

When I ran into 10 mages in a row on ladder last week I made a double Kezan control Warrior. Absolutely no way to lose to mages, but haven't been seeing as many this week.
 

cHinzo

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Wow, I just drafted the worst Druid deck ever. xD No Swipes, no Starfalls, no Starfires, no Druid of the Flames, no Ancient of Lores, no Ironbark Protectors and only 1 Wrath lol. The minions were also beyond shitty. 0-3 incoming. QQ
 

Miletius

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I don't agree, Nef is easy mode. After seeing Kripp lose to a Nef player making rank 25 ladder level mistakes I'm pretty sure anyone with Nef is favored to win.

Agreed. It's much harder to win as Rag. Rag has to survive the onslaught, but he doesn't have the resources to do it effectively right now.
 
How's the single-player content for this game? I put a fair amount of hours into its multiplayer when it first was released, but it was a bit too frustrating for me. After playing Regency Solitaire, I'm just looking for a relaxing one-handed card game.
 

zulux21

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alright GAF I need some help.

My friend came over asking me to help him get the fireside card back. We all logged into my network and we faced each other 3 times, and I got the back, but he didn't. (he was the one that challenged me)

he tried playing it with my wife and after 3 matches she got the back but not him. Both my wife and I are using the PC client while he is using the apple client. Is there any known issue there?

edit: we got it to work with him using my wife's PC.
 
How's the single-player content for this game? I put a fair amount of hours into its multiplayer when it first was released, but it was a bit too frustrating for me. After playing Regency Solitaire, I'm just looking for a relaxing one-handed card game.

This is not really a single player game. It has some singleplayer content but I wouldn't play the game just to play singleplayer content.
 

Heropon

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In the end I managed to crawl to five wins and I was stopped by a well used Sword of Justice. That thing is crazy without oozes to destroy it. By the way, the pack was crap again.
 

cHinzo

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In the end I managed to crawl to five wins and I was stopped by a well used Sword of Justice. That thing is crazy without oozes to destroy it. By the way, the pack was crap again.

Nice! Still a profit though. I dont think I'm gonna make it to 3 wins with my deck. ;_;

Edit: got 1 win with it lol. It was the most awful deck I've ever drafted. Oh well at least no 0-3!
 

Pooya

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unstable ghoul + power overwhelming -> goes to belcher's face, shadowflame on the ghoul bam board cleaaan. I'm really liking unstable ghoul lately great card. Too bad about grim patron decks :\
 

Heropon

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Nice! Still a profit though. I dont think I'm gonna make it to 3 wins with my deck. ;_;

Edit: got 1 win with it lol. It was the most awful deck I've ever drafted. Oh well at least no 0-3!

It's sad to read that. When you have a terrible deck like that you just pray that you get terrible AND unlucky opponents.
 

br3wnor

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How's the single-player content for this game? I put a fair amount of hours into its multiplayer when it first was released, but it was a bit too frustrating for me. After playing Regency Solitaire, I'm just looking for a relaxing one-handed card game.

Pretty bland, fun to play through once but it's pretty easy and you're just playing it to unlock cards to use in multiplayer. No replay value at all really
 

cHinzo

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It's sad to read that. When you have a terrible deck like that you just pray that you get terrible AND unlucky opponents.
Haha yeah. At these momente it just feels like throwing 150g away after the draft. :d Got another shitty deck, but I think I'm playing against the worst of the worst in arena. My opponents are taking so much time for their turns and in the end one rogue dagger'd up until turn 4 on which he played a 2 drop and another dagger hero power lol. 2-2 atm with my crappy Paladin deck without 6 drops or higher. D:

I miss those drafts where u know u gonna have a good time playing ur deck. ;___;
 
Is there some streamer playing aggro paladin this week? I've fought about 10 in the past two days and I don't think I've seen any before that in the past couple seasons.
 

Heropon

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Haha yeah. At these momente it just feels like throwing 150g away after the draft. :d Got another shitty deck, but I think I'm playing against the worst of the worst in arena. My opponents are taking so much time for their turns and in the end one rogue dagger'd up until turn 4 on which he played a 2 drop and another dagger hero power lol. 2-2 atm with my crappy Paladin deck without 6 drops or higher. D:

I miss those drafts where u know u gonna have a good time playing ur deck. ;___;

I was actually confident in my last deck but then you face all these ridiculous opponents and learn to only trust decks when you get to the 7th victory.
 

Servbot #42

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Is there some streamer playing aggro paladin this week? I've fought about 10 in the past two days and I don't think I've seen any before that in the past couple seasons.

Everyone is playing aggro these days, today i even faced a warrior aggro with wolfriders and charge stuff, shit was crazy i was not prepared.
 

Anustart

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Is this brawl supposed to be as far away from fair as possible? My cards were all fucking shit compared to him starting with way more mana and can make all cards cost 0. Give me a fucking break.

Oh, and hero power that gives 0 mana spells. Guess I'll just have to wait to win until I luck into getting to play as him.
 
Is this brawl supposed to be as far away from fair as possible? My cards were all fucking shit compared to him starting with way more mana and can make all cards cost 0. Give me a fucking break.

Oh, and hero power that gives 0 mana spells. Guess I'll just have to wait to win until I luck into getting to play as him.

Ragnaros cards are not shit compared to his. You get a 6/6 taunt for 2 mana, a 6/3 with 6 damage battlecry for 3, delayed AOE that deals 5 to his side for 3, 4/5 windfury for 2... You start with a weapon, you get a 5/1 for 2 hero power that turns into ragnaros fireballs. Don't forget you also get a 4/8 for 4 that gives you a brawl card and always wins brawl. So at 9 mana, you can play that and get a guaranteed brawl win. If he has that minion that reduces all spells by 3, you can do that with only 6 mana.

I think the hardest win with rag is when nef gets all his 7/7s on board very quickly, and can deal with 5/1s with blackwing corruptor. Without corruptor nef has a somewhat difficult time dealing with even rag's starting hero power.

Sure, rag is harder to learn at first, but once you get the hang of it, it isn't so bad. You're pretty much having the same initial reaction many people had though.
 

manhack

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Is there some streamer playing aggro paladin this week? I've fought about 10 in the past two days and I don't think I've seen any before that in the past couple seasons.

Eloise and Hafu were streaming in the last 2 days on their stream.

I actually used a similar deck last month to grind golden paladin, so it's not necessarily new.
 

Anustart

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Ragnaros cards are not shit compared to his. You get a 6/6 taunt for 2 mana, a 6/3 with 6 damage battlecry for 3, delayed AOE that deals 5 to his side for 3, 4/5 windfury for 2... You start with a weapon, you get a 5/1 for 2 hero power that turns into ragnaros fireballs. Don't forget you also get a 4/8 for 4 that gives you a brawl card and always wins brawl. So at 9 mana, you can play that and get a guaranteed brawl win. If he has that minion that reduces all spells by 3, you can do that with only 6 mana.

I think the hardest win with rag is when nef gets all his 7/7s on board very quickly, and can deal with 5/1s with blackwing corruptor. Without corruptor nef has a somewhat difficult time dealing with even rag's starting hero power.

Sure, rag is harder to learn at first, but once you get the hang of it, it isn't so bad. You're pretty much having the same initial reaction many people had though.

4 in a row, 4 losses. I can't keep any cards on the board. Sure a 6/6 taunt, doesn't mean shit compared to the cards they get and 0 cost spells, and more mana. It's a lopsided unfair match.
 

johnsmith

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Eloise and Hafu were streaming in the last 2 days on their stream.

I actually used a similar deck last month to grind golden paladin, so it's not necessarily new.

That, and it has a really good matchup against a lot of the meta decks like locks and midrange/hybrid hunters and even warriors. Have you ever had to deal with a shielded minibot that gets blessing of might as a warrior? It's not pretty. Plus dropping those acolytes of pain only benefits you with better divine favors.
 

Higgy

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Ragnaros cards are not shit compared to his. You get a 6/6 taunt for 2 mana, a 6/3 with 6 damage battlecry for 3, delayed AOE that deals 5 to his side for 3, 4/5 windfury for 2... You start with a weapon, you get a 5/1 for 2 hero power that turns into ragnaros fireballs. Don't forget you also get a 4/8 for 4 that gives you a brawl card and always wins brawl. So at 9 mana, you can play that and get a guaranteed brawl win. If he has that minion that reduces all spells by 3, you can do that with only 6 mana.

I think the hardest win with rag is when nef gets all his 7/7s on board very quickly, and can deal with 5/1s with blackwing corruptor. Without corruptor nef has a somewhat difficult time dealing with even rag's starting hero power.

Sure, rag is harder to learn at first, but once you get the hang of it, it isn't so bad. You're pretty much having the same initial reaction many people had though.

I have more wins with Rag than Nef. Keep the board reasonable until hero power and it's basically a wrap. I love brawl. Can't wait until next week to see what else they have up they're sleeve.
 

Dahbomb

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I don't agree, Nef is easy mode. After seeing Kripp lose to a Nef player making rank 25 ladder level mistakes I'm pretty sure anyone with Nef is favored to win.
That's my point, Nef is way easier to win with because he is over powered.

But he has a much higher skill cap because of the many different options he may be presented with at a given tine. It's just that players don't need to min max with him nearly to the same degree as Ragnaros because he is just that much better.
 

Bizazedo

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Played Brawl twice, got Rag twice. First game Nef had a turn 1 7/7, turn two Razorgore. I did not win that one. I also had a bad mulligan.

Second game I actually got the taunt 6/6 early and won.

So I have no opinion, but feel Dahbomb is right.
 

Tubie

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I really hope the next brawls are just as silly and as some call it "unbalanced" as this one.

I see it as a fun little mode that doesn't really take itself too seriously.
 
4 in a row, 4 losses. I can't keep any cards on the board. Sure a 6/6 taunt, doesn't mean shit compared to the cards they get and 0 cost spells, and more mana. It's a lopsided unfair match.

So I think you're skipping over the most important part about the 6/6 taunt... it only costs 2 mana! Come turn 4 you can play 12/12 worth of stats if you have 2, or play 1 alongside a hero power, is pretty dang efficient for a turn 4 even in that mode.

The 0 cost spells actually cost 2 mana. And they are completely random so very often they'll get a bad card for what they need. And don't forget the rag hero power eventually becomes about 5 times better than nefs.
 

Bizazedo

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At some point they better do a deck building one that requires every card in your deck to have a random effect.

That's what I thought this'd be. Using pre-mades like an adventure was kind of disappointing.

I wanted it to be like 60 card decks, or 4 of a kind, or...etc.
 

Papercuts

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So I think you're skipping over the most important part about the 6/6 taunt... it only costs 2 mana! Come turn 4 you can play 12/12 worth of stats if you have 2, or play 1 alongside a hero power, is pretty dang efficient for a turn 4 even in that mode.

The 0 cost spells actually cost 2 mana. And they are completely random so very often they'll get a bad card for what they need. And don't forget the rag hero power eventually becomes about 5 times better than nefs.

I think Nef's power is INSANE. He effectively has a spell based Unstable Portal with an even bigger swing the moment you pull something pricy(mind control, twisting nether, lay on hands, etc) and it's a pain in the ass to play around secrets he pulls. Even the bad pulls I've gotten tend to find value, like circle of healing value trades, and I even got deadly poison into a muster for battle.

Nef has multiple cards that hard counter the opposing hero power with Onyxia and the 2/2 board swarm(though this is atleast weak to flamestrike), and it is VERY hard for rag to deal with early Vaelstraz/the other dudes with 12 HP that buff the shit out of people. I have seen so many games just end on turn 4-5.
 

Dreavus

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Tavern Brawl is fun! Nef loses when he gets useless spells AND the game goes on for a bit. If you run out of real cards then Rag just grinds you out with his hero power and superior card draw (if he gets it). Of course, if you get good stuff from your hero power then the game never gets that far because the tempo swings are insane.

It's fun to play with a friend, for sure! It's kind of too bad it's just temp, but I guess that's to let them play around with modes without fracturing the player base one hundred times.
 

raiot

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You know what?
Wouldn't it be great to have an option: Brawls of the past.
Here you could replay old tavern brawls with your ingame friends...
 
I think Nef's power is INSANE. He effectively has a spell based Unstable Portal with an even bigger swing the moment you pull something pricy(mind control, twisting nether, lay on hands, etc) and it's a pain in the ass to play around secrets he pulls. Even the bad pulls I've gotten tend to find value, like circle of healing value trades, and I even got deadly poison into a muster for battle.

Nef has multiple cards that hard counter the opposing hero power with Onyxia and the 2/2 board swarm(though this is atleast weak to flamestrike), and it is VERY hard for rag to deal with early Vaelstraz/the other dudes with 12 HP that buff the shit out of people. I have seen so many games just end on turn 4-5.

Nef's power is insanely fun. But it is also insanely unreliable. And compared to rag's fireball, it actually isn't even close imo.

I've seen games decided in rag's favor that early as well. I'm not even joking. I don't think the fringe cases matter that much. They don't happen so often. It is like zoo winning on turn 4. Yeah, it is technically possible.

I got a golden common with 12 wins in arena... I thought they fixed that shit?

Fixed what shit? They made it so you can't get a non-golden common or something. They never made it so you can't get a golden common. That is not broken.
 

Nyx

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So I was looking into crafting, people tell me I need certain legendaries for sure.

Dr Boom for example, great, costs 1600 dust to make.
Thought I'd check my deck to see how long it would take to get 1600, well, forever I guess cause most of my (gold) cards give 50 or 100 dust after disenchanting.

So, seems crafting is a no go for me for a very long time still, hope I'll get some of those top tier cards in packs then.
 

Pooya

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the secret is duplicate :p


unstable portal -> Gromm on baord, 10 to face -> faceless manipulator on it, 10 to face, 10 to taunt -> duplicate Gromm -> Concedes
 

Rosenskjold

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I had this bug happen to me today :/ Sacrifice doesn't trigger until I attack the second time.
It might look a bit confusing, but you can see Dr. Boom attacks with the secret up, and then it doesn't trigger, I play shield on the healbot and it attacks and triggers the secret.

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I got my revenge though (he he)

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