I just read the rules and WTF @ all the math involved.
It's not that complicated until you start including Deathrattles like that.
Seems like Shaman would be pretty strong in this because most of their cards are legal.
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It's not that complicated until you start including Deathrattles like that.
Seems like Shaman would be pretty strong in this because most of their cards are legal.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Who made up that stupid rule set and what were they aiming for...
Like I said it sounds more complicated than it actually is.
You just need two or more instances of the numbers 1/3/5 on the card text of a card. I know it says 15 on there as well but that's pretty much irrelevant.
Haunted
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That's the strangest one. Besides the number 50 not being on a card, if they just didn't want people to get "double" value from a number, they should use one that actually exists, like 15 on Alexstraza or Noz. So 15 would give "15", but not "1" and "5". ( I think is what they're going for)
Should've used 10 instead which is actually used in a few cards.
Unusually frustrating day in arena today. First my "12 win" paladin deck got shot down at 6 wins and then I went 3-3 and 4-3 with warlock and mage with pretty good decks. Almost every game I'm slowly getting more and more ahead with good trading etc but then the opponent starts dropping some insane cards every turn or I get screwed over by RNG.
Special shout out to the warrior who won a 1v3 brawl and all the shamans who have 5 fire elementals and fireguard destroyers in their decks. I'm adding "shamans always have fire elemental(s) in hand" to my book of undisputed facts next to "everyone always has an MC tech that will take your best minion".
Special shout out to the warrior who won a 1v3 brawl and all the shamans who have 5 fire elementals and fireguard destroyers in their decks. I'm adding "shamans always have fire elemental(s) in hand" to my book of undisputed facts next to "everyone always has an MC tech that will take your best minion".
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LOL you watching this too? he's been really mean today for some reason and it's really funny. I hope he's trolling tough, because he sounds kinda bitter.
It's a persona he's done before as prison trump. I guess he didn't feel like dressing up today.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I'm teaching someone to play hearthstone who has never played a card game before.
He seems to be learning pretty well but I'm trying to avoid overloading him with information. I'm not even sure if he likes it or not.
He seems to be learning pretty well but I'm trying to avoid overloading him with information. I'm not even sure if he likes it or not.
Well, they're separate servers, so I can see how it might be an issue. Anyway I'll add you and we can see if it works.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I got 2 friends to try hearthstone today. Blizzard should send me a check.
Nah it's better than Implosion.
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kill command looks worse
Mobius and pet octopus
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Knife juggler... animal companion...
At least with crackle you're generally playing it later in the game. The RNG portion isn't often going to decide games early.
At least with crackle you're generally playing it later in the game. The RNG portion isn't often going to decide games early.
Top 5 worst designed cards in Hearthstone:
Implosion
Animal Companion
Lightning Storm
Crackle
Mad Scientist
I had a few other cards in my mind but they were more just really shitty cards as opposed to badly designed cards like Hemet.
Lightning Storm IMO is AT LEAST as bad as Crackle if not worse than Crackle. You aren't rolling 2-3 damage across the board but rather you are rolling 2-3 damage individually on enemies which is just another layer of RNG that card does not need. Overload + huge swing RNG mechanics are just an awful combination.
It's just surprising that Mad Scientist has survived this long. Mad Scientist basically ensures that neither Hunter nor Mage can't get ridiculous new spells because they would become too powerful. It also makes it so that if they plan to give another class spells they can't give some class a 4 or a 5 cost secret... that would just be mind numbingly broken.
Implosion we have talked about so many times on this thread that I don't think we really need to cover how awful this card is.
Honorable mention: Tinkmaster Overspark
Implosion
Animal Companion
Lightning Storm
Crackle
Mad Scientist
I had a few other cards in my mind but they were more just really shitty cards as opposed to badly designed cards like Hemet.
Lightning Storm IMO is AT LEAST as bad as Crackle if not worse than Crackle. You aren't rolling 2-3 damage across the board but rather you are rolling 2-3 damage individually on enemies which is just another layer of RNG that card does not need. Overload + huge swing RNG mechanics are just an awful combination.
It's just surprising that Mad Scientist has survived this long. Mad Scientist basically ensures that neither Hunter nor Mage can't get ridiculous new spells because they would become too powerful. It also makes it so that if they plan to give another class spells they can't give some class a 4 or a 5 cost secret... that would just be mind numbingly broken.
Implosion we have talked about so many times on this thread that I don't think we really need to cover how awful this card is.
Honorable mention: Tinkmaster Overspark
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awful for the player it is being used against,you mean
It's awful for both.
It's bad when you use it and get two tokens and two damage.
It's fucking devastating for the other player when it hits for 4 damage and spawns 4 tokens.
It's too high of a variance in power level based on RNG with an immediate board impact. It's synergy with Knife Juggler (another high impact RNG) makes this card absolutely abhorrent.
The fact Implosion got approved in this form just boggles the mind
Like okay you want to make as many factors as possible depend on rng for le epic player stories, we get it Blizz. But how in the fuck do you give it such frankly outrageous swing potential instead of taking the infinitely more sensible route of having the two factors balance out each other
Low damage roll should give more imps and vice versa
Like how is this not the immediately obvious design goal, card would still be stupid annoying which seems to be Zoo's intended theme but at least you'd retain a modicum of fairness
Like okay you want to make as many factors as possible depend on rng for le epic player stories, we get it Blizz. But how in the fuck do you give it such frankly outrageous swing potential instead of taking the infinitely more sensible route of having the two factors balance out each other
Low damage roll should give more imps and vice versa
Like how is this not the immediately obvious design goal, card would still be stupid annoying which seems to be Zoo's intended theme but at least you'd retain a modicum of fairness
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That was hilarious AND informative!
Will watch his next entry.
New druid mormon card: three of wife.
HA
Replace animal companion and lightning storm with Dr. Balanced and shredder.
I wasn't trying to start a discussion. Crackle lost me 3 consecutive arena games this morning. The difference between lightning bolt and fireball is massive. At least in theory. I never managed to roll anything that resembled the latter.
I'm partly at fault for drafting 4 of them.
I'm partly at fault for drafting 4 of them.
I almost got rekt with my godly mage deck by a hunter that had two doggies and two wolfriders. I knew he had an explosive up so I tried to play around it but he just kept getting those chargers and removals to keep my minions at 2 and his board empty. By the lategame he transitioned to
while I had 2 sheeps sitting in my hand and praying for a fireball.
The final turn I had 1 hp left and he had a trap up. Didn't draw either of my remaining fireballs so I had to proc the trap and luckily it wasn't a 2nd explosive but freezing.
The final turn I had 1 hp left and he had a trap up. Didn't draw either of my remaining fireballs so I had to proc the trap and luckily it wasn't a 2nd explosive but freezing.
I prefer the form of RNG like the new Bane of Doom. There's nothing exciting about rolling a higher bullshit number like with crackle or implosion, implosion especially being overwhelming nuts if you roll a 4, but randomly getting something like Illidan is fun.
Paladins need not apply.
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what was the problem with secrets before mad scientist was introduced?
I'm having great fun with a Paladin secret-deck at the moment, and Scientist is doing work there too.
TetraxShards
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I LOLed so hard. Fuck that card though.
I mean Crackle is up there for sure but Shaman as a class is so beyond saving that no one really cares at this point
I'd agree if it wasn't for the Malganis rolls, but yes all things considered it's one of the more acceptable ways to do rng.
Seriously lol
Does it matter what class? Pretty much every secret deck runs mad scientist now, but pre Nax I had a lot of fun with the Mage deck that played Ethereal Arcanist and Kirin Tor Mage instead.
Coach popularized 2 shield block/ 2 slam patrons. Sjow's version doesn't run either and runs two ghouls.
Oh yeah forgot about the 2 Slams, guy just threw everything in there and besides Corsair I don't have the slightest idea what he cut for it.
crazygambit
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I got Ysera in a pack. What are dream cards? What deck uses it?
All is forgiven
Ysera's effect pulls from these 5 cards at random: http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Ysera#Dream_cards
It's used in very heavy control decks, i.e. Warrior and occasionally Priest.
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