Not really, Deathrattle hunter were worse. It was either counter undertake immediately or lose.
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Hearthstone |OT5| Corrupted Deeprock Salt
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Meta has changed though, Shamans have become more aggressive because of the 1/3 Murloc, Paladins have an OTK option and Priest has received a very powerful removal option.
It's not like you could win against anyone with that hand, except maybe handlock.
I have my doubts, Handlocks and Control Warriors are sooo hard for Dragon Priests.
I can tell you as a Handlock player that I don't even play Void Callers against Priest until after Jaraxxus is played. And in a Renolock deck there's only one Void Caller to begin with so it's fine if you don't ever play it.
Dragon Priest on the other hand can put enough pressure on the board where it might force out the Void Caller from the Renolock player.
BigJonsson
Member
Any substitutes for lava burst in aggro shaman? Somehow I don't have any lol
Or have burst. Flash heal X 2 with Auchenai plus hero power.
possibly a golem? Your lavaburst should be a game finisher
For that shit, you deserve every turn 5 loss you're going to get.
irfaanator
Banned
man twice have I had a token/dragon egg druid have perfect draws with double savage roar in hand by turn 4. Why ben brode, why. And I've only ever faced two. that 100%
Brofist
Member
Take a break
Thing is if I want to survive this aggro meta, ofthen the combo cards (apart from SI of course) feel to slow, so I prefer my deck with more tech and sticky minions. Its working for me because the meta is so aggro heavy.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
How does beneath the grounds help you versus aggro decks? They hardly run any card draw. If you're worried about aggro, you should be running faster cards.
Honestly, based on personal experience I can say BTG isn't even that great against control decks.
It gives me 4/4 minions for free. It might seem like it wouldnt work or whatever but so far that card has won me several games.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Put an ERF or any other solid 3 drop in that slot and you'll win more games. Sometimes BTG won't even summon a single 4/4. That is 3 mana or more just thrown out in a match that lasts maybe 6-7 turns. It can be like skipping your turn. The chance to get a 4/4 is not better than definitely getting a 3/3 or 3/4 on demand across the vast majority of games against aggro.
People like to rub it in.
I play Priest, which seems to be like the most universally hated class in Hearthstone. Everyone hates Priests. Doesn't matter that they're one of the worst classes in the game. Dragon Priest put it back on radar, but before then, they were the anomaly. Doesn't keep people from BM'ing you whenever they can.
Whenever I play another Priest, we're always healing each other for the first few turns, or giving each other "Sorry"s and whatnot.
So far, I think people have been most sympathetic to me when I play Oil. Like I get a ton of "Sorry"s when they're absolutely crushing me. lol
Randomizer123454444
Member
Hey, I'd like to have some feedback on the fatigue priest deck I've been working on:
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I'm currently 11-2 with this deck, but I started very low in ranks so I'm only 14 currently. But I met control warriors, some secret paladins, fatigue mage etc. I lost to dragon priest and deathrattle rogue, deathrattle rogue loss was due to my own misplay.
The idea is to fatigue opponent to death, so I avoided my own card draw and instead relied on cards that either steal enemy cards or drew for both players (mind vision, thoughtsteal, nefarian, coldlight oracle).
Some cards I'm not sure about and I may want to replace:
- Jeweled Scarab: I intend to replace this with Museum Curator once he is released this week?
- Acidic Swamp Ooze: he's mostly because I didn't want card draw from Harrison, and I ran out of ideas what to put here
- Coldlight oracles seem like a bad idea, but sometimes I just ran out of cards or I needed to fish for that board clear so I included them
- Senjin Shieldmastas are there because I didn't find better 4-mana cards to fill that manaslot. They are there (with all other taunts) to ensure I live long enough to use 5/6-mana board clears
- Nefarian: He is difficult to play, I have to be winning tempo game which is difficult. But the extra spells he provides are useful and he eats removals
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I'm currently 11-2 with this deck, but I started very low in ranks so I'm only 14 currently. But I met control warriors, some secret paladins, fatigue mage etc. I lost to dragon priest and deathrattle rogue, deathrattle rogue loss was due to my own misplay.
The idea is to fatigue opponent to death, so I avoided my own card draw and instead relied on cards that either steal enemy cards or drew for both players (mind vision, thoughtsteal, nefarian, coldlight oracle).
Some cards I'm not sure about and I may want to replace:
- Jeweled Scarab: I intend to replace this with Museum Curator once he is released this week?
- Acidic Swamp Ooze: he's mostly because I didn't want card draw from Harrison, and I ran out of ideas what to put here
- Coldlight oracles seem like a bad idea, but sometimes I just ran out of cards or I needed to fish for that board clear so I included them
- Senjin Shieldmastas are there because I didn't find better 4-mana cards to fill that manaslot. They are there (with all other taunts) to ensure I live long enough to use 5/6-mana board clears
- Nefarian: He is difficult to play, I have to be winning tempo game which is difficult. But the extra spells he provides are useful and he eats removals
Will test that tonight.
So far we had 3 great legendaries in LoE and I even have some hope for the last 2.
Starseeker could be good in mill and controll decks, because in these decks you often survive till fatigue and you have nothing but useless cards in your hand.
Plus,you can always just summon her on curve.
Rafaam could work in any deck that doesn't have a finisher like control priest.
Other then that, I'm really loooking forward to Museum Curator and Tomb Pillager.
I don't see any of the other cards get played except for Raven Idol and Eerie Statue.
Starseeker could be good in mill and controll decks, because in these decks you often survive till fatigue and you have nothing but useless cards in your hand.
Plus,you can always just summon her on curve.
Rafaam could work in any deck that doesn't have a finisher like control priest.
Other then that, I'm really loooking forward to Museum Curator and Tomb Pillager.
I don't see any of the other cards get played except for Raven Idol and Eerie Statue.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I am testing out a shaman deck atm but more relevant is the DOA that completely shutdown this shaman's chance to win with doomhammer, very hard.
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Playing against scrubs at rank 10 makes this deck look good. Not even sure why this one priest conceded.
Your misplay was not immediately squelching at the beginning of the game. I do it every game.
RumblingRosco
Member
I'm currently something like 12-2 as Aggro Shaman in Ranked. Feels so good.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Gorillabot into gorilla bot, as this fel reaver mech mage's last card in hand...
I hate that it has to be that way though. I wish you could just enjoy the game more without people having to be absolute jerks to each other.
I try to be as friendly as possible and even give well played to smorc players. Still doesnt stop them from BM'ing like mad the other way.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Sorry for yesterday, I've been particularly hostile lately for various reasons. Real life issues, FFVII: Remake 'debates', massive final exams this Friday etc.
Sorry.
Sorry.
SonicXtreme
Member
Man I'm loving egg Druid. The amount of deathrattles is insane, don't own Jeeves yet tho have to get on that. Anybody else playing it?
Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
We've all been there! Good luck on your exams!
Mobius and pet octopus
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Defender of argus
Unlike face hunter which runs UTH, and like face warrior, DOA shuts down weapons hard and because they don't trade much you should have a good chance of getting a good one off. Aggro shaman has a bit more reach with spells, but an early board shut down could stop them from getting enough reach. And they don't run board clears and maybe 1 silence.
veryslowhand
Banned
How much healing does people put in their midrange paladins?
Yeah! It's surprisingly fun and resilient! The can't imagine running it without Jeeves though.
Might consider replacing Excavating Evil with Shadow Madness since the latter doesn't add another card to your opponent's deck.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
crackle hits for 6, lava shock 2, crackle number 2 hits for 6, plus a lightning bolt... what skill.
I had the most glorious game last night where my Patron Warrior deck demolished an Aggro Druid with a nut draw.
Turn 2, I hero power and pass. Druid plays Darnassus Aspirant to have 4 mana next turn.
Turn 3, I play Acolyte of Pain. He does Coin, Innervate, Dr. Boom.
Turn 4, I drop another Acolyte of Pain, and whirlwind. One bomb hits my face, the other hits an Acolyte for 1 damage. I run the other Acolyte into the Aspirant. 4 cards drawn on this turn.
Turn 5, he plays Fel Reaver and goes face with Boom/Aspirant. I top-deck an Execute, then run my one remaining Acolyte into his Aspirant, finally killing it, and get the other Execute. Execute Boom, equip a Win Axe, ping Reaver with Inner Rage and execute it. Bullshit averted and 12 cards discarded from his deck.
Turn 2, I hero power and pass. Druid plays Darnassus Aspirant to have 4 mana next turn.
Turn 3, I play Acolyte of Pain. He does Coin, Innervate, Dr. Boom.
Turn 4, I drop another Acolyte of Pain, and whirlwind. One bomb hits my face, the other hits an Acolyte for 1 damage. I run the other Acolyte into the Aspirant. 4 cards drawn on this turn.
Turn 5, he plays Fel Reaver and goes face with Boom/Aspirant. I top-deck an Execute, then run my one remaining Acolyte into his Aspirant, finally killing it, and get the other Execute. Execute Boom, equip a Win Axe, ping Reaver with Inner Rage and execute it. Bullshit averted and 12 cards discarded from his deck.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Healbot for a stronger effect per mana anyway...
Bolf would work perhaps if it had more text to it... like +1 armor per damage absorbed would be awesome. Right now its just an interesting card that falls really low on the power scale... unfortuneately.
Bolf should at least have taunt.
No idea how blizzard fucked up this card so badly.
After they showed him for the first time on stream, it took everyone watching just 1 turn to figure out how much bolf sucks.
The really sad thing is that he wasn't even the most worthless legendary of the set, just look at acidmaw and skeleton knight.
I mean, they should at least try to give cards with cool effect a chance to get played.
No idea how blizzard fucked up this card so badly.
After they showed him for the first time on stream, it took everyone watching just 1 turn to figure out how much bolf sucks.
The really sad thing is that he wasn't even the most worthless legendary of the set, just look at acidmaw and skeleton knight.
I mean, they should at least try to give cards with cool effect a chance to get played.
One Healbot + LoH
SonicXtreme
Member
Well I don't have any of him yet (he's cheap but I just dusted for a tourney at OSU this weekend) so I've been using like a shredder, swipe, knife juggler and a force of nature to plug the holes so I don't run out of cards too soon. Still tons of fun. Sir Finley helps a lot to grab warlock or token hero powers
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I think for the first time in a long time we actually have 8 classes having a deck in the top two "tiers" (or put another way the top 11-12 decks). What is missing? Hunter.
However, I think hunter will find a way. After all, shaman is in the meta. And it should fare well against paladin as well, which makes up most of the tier 1 decks. Tempostorm has them listed at tier 3 but I think the potential to be tier 2 is present. Probably a hybrid deck that can rush down certain decks and perhaps have that extra power present for reno decks (which I haven't seen a lot of lately anyway).
However, I think hunter will find a way. After all, shaman is in the meta. And it should fare well against paladin as well, which makes up most of the tier 1 decks. Tempostorm has them listed at tier 3 but I think the potential to be tier 2 is present. Probably a hybrid deck that can rush down certain decks and perhaps have that extra power present for reno decks (which I haven't seen a lot of lately anyway).