Professor Lich
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I'm confused on how this makes getting a double death any easier. Maybe with Eye for an Eye I guess since you'll hit the Paladin for 2 but take 4.
I'm pretty sure any time both heroes die at the same time, it's always a tie.
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I'm pretty sure any time both heroes die at the same time, it's always a tie.
shira
Member
Ok thanks, I've never played a tie before.
Professor Lich
Member
When there is a tie, no one loses stars/rank. The only notable thing is that you'll lose your win streak if you had one. It might effect your hidden MMR but can't say that for sure.
Thijs says freezemage is getting a huge buff with the set, I've been telling you guys thattorch is doing work on his stream. Reno Jackson to join soon!
Lol don't worry, after league they will delete freeze mage just as they have done to any good combo decks in HS history. Play it while you can.
That looks sick! I was going to craft a golden one for my golden deck anyway but that animation looks incredible compared to most other cards out right now
Edit: to bad it doesn't stick around long enough for people to admire it, I wonder if there is an animation for the spell in action... btw where did you find this?
GwyndolinCinder
Member
"Discover a legendary minion" should be a thing, but I guess blizzard are scared of double booms
DyslexicAlucard
Member
I just played Face Hunter for the first time so I could get a Hunter quest done.
... The filth won't wash away. Out, damned spot! Out, I say!
... The filth won't wash away. Out, damned spot! Out, I say!
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Dragon is good now.
Don't feel ashamed, embrace the darkness and feel the power!!!
toddhunter
Member
So much midrange paladin right now and Control Warrior officially dead again. Hopefully the new adventure makes people forget about it for a couple of weeks.
I hope Rogue climbs back to Tier 1 or even 2.
Though with secret pally in the meta, I'm not sure if Rogue can ever be truly good.
Patron is secretly the tier 1 deck. It's been working very well for me. I play my own list, I don't like dread corsairs, I play a more control oriented deck it's just that instead of losing to midrange paladin like control warrior does, I roll them over.
It destroys every aggro deck, specially druid. Handlock is a very good match up now actually. If control warrior is really not all that common it's easy climbing wit patron, even priest is manageable with some tech cards like brawl or Sylvanas. Freezemage is easy win too if you know how to play that match up. I haven't felt more comfortable with a deck than I do with my patron list ever, I feel I can beat anything as long as it's not CW...
Everytime I q as rogue, I just get control warrior after control warrior, so I'm not sure CW is quite dead yet.
It destroys every aggro deck, specially druid. Handlock is a very good match up now actually. If control warrior is really not all that common it's easy climbing wit patron, even priest is manageable with some tech cards like brawl or Sylvanas. Freezemage is easy win too if you know how to play that match up. I haven't felt more comfortable with a deck than I do with my patron list ever, I feel I can beat anything as long as it's not CW...
Everytime I q as rogue, I just get control warrior after control warrior, so I'm not sure CW is quite dead yet.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Rogue destroys secret paladin. I've had many secret paladins hit that perfect curve and still lose.
That's your own (false) anecdotal evidence. Rogue wouldn't be rated so low if it "destroyed" the most prevalent deck in the meta.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Okay, believe what you want.
I just assumed this was generally understood. I mean, look at blizcon, double rogue in finals was not a mistake.
What would happen if you used this card
And it caused a double death? Would it be a tie?
Best card to give your opponent with blingtron, nomnomnom
Sad no new pirates, but I guess they didn't really fit the theme.
Really hope next expac has a lot lot lot of pirates.
Okay, believe what you want.
I just assumed this was generally understood. I mean, look at blizcon, double rogue in finals was not a mistake.
Well Blizzcon isn't ladder.
And I have some experience playing Oil and tempo rogues in the current meta and my experiences with secret paladin aren't as nice as yours. Minibots, avenge and redemption are very annoying to deal with and often require you to take a lot of face damage with no real tempo advantage. There is no easy way to clear MC and noble sac is actually really good against rogue since you often have a buffed weapon you cannot use to clear it.
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The ladder has had Rogue being shit on so long people haven't up taken to the fact that it might not suck now. I've thought this for a while.
Like nobody plays Shaman on ladder. So if Shaman got buffed would anyone actually notice? LoL
Oil used to be Tier 1 deck I think. Now it feels like garbage thanks to MC.
Oil Rogue was the tier 1 deck after GvG, all the pro players and the usual lists had it as the top deck even for a long time. Until BRM launched and even after that it was good for a while, then patron became the deck to beat, now rogue actually did pretty well against the old patron but everyone started running Harrison, Ooze and water elementals that didn't really counter patron much but pretty much killed off rogue from the ladder. Now meta looks better for rogue again that anti weapon cards are out. I haven't seen Harrison in a while, it was like the card two months ago.
go_straight
Banned
What's the best deck tracker?
CountBlack
Member
Saw this on reddit
make your soul burn slow
make your soul burn slow
BlizzCon gear arrived. Hearthstone bottle opener!! I am so pleased.
Yeah you can't look at Blizzcon finals for much because:
* Different format than ladders. You don't need decks that are the best but decks that can win at least a game against the field.
*Even if you brought in a broken deck and it had a 100% winrate, that will never carry you because you need to win with your other decks. That's what happened with the Secret Paladin deck, it pretty much always won but the other decks in the load out didn't.
*Blizzard nerfed a card less than a month before finals which up ended the meta. Lots of players had been practicing Grim Patron and Druid deck prior to Blizzcon and very few people practiced Paladin. So after the nerf people went with their comfort picks rather than hoppin on the Secret Paladin bandwagon.
*Tournament meta isn't the same as ladder meta. In tournament meta you can run 6 1 drops in a Priest deck and run double BGH in Control Warrior but that doesn't fly in larder because you can't directly target specific players/decks on ladders, you want to maximize consistency.
* Different format than ladders. You don't need decks that are the best but decks that can win at least a game against the field.
*Even if you brought in a broken deck and it had a 100% winrate, that will never carry you because you need to win with your other decks. That's what happened with the Secret Paladin deck, it pretty much always won but the other decks in the load out didn't.
*Blizzard nerfed a card less than a month before finals which up ended the meta. Lots of players had been practicing Grim Patron and Druid deck prior to Blizzcon and very few people practiced Paladin. So after the nerf people went with their comfort picks rather than hoppin on the Secret Paladin bandwagon.
*Tournament meta isn't the same as ladder meta. In tournament meta you can run 6 1 drops in a Priest deck and run double BGH in Control Warrior but that doesn't fly in larder because you can't directly target specific players/decks on ladders, you want to maximize consistency.
RumblingRosco
Member
Can't view that video.
GamerKingFaiz
Member
So I understand there's no pre-order for the new expansion, but once available for purchase are we going to buy all the wings in one package for a small discount or do we have to buy them piecemeal?
Haunted
Member
I do like the animation, but the loop makes it look like the tomb is opening up. :lol
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
You can't completely ignore blizcon either. Not just the finals but the group stages as well.
The entire reason people brought rogue was to counter decks like secret paladin. To hear someone say that rogue isn't popular on ladder because of secret paladin makes me think I woke up in bizzaro world.
Someone has played some rogue on ladder and they think they know the match ups, but chances are they just aren't good with one of the higher skill cap decks in the game. Secret paladin, especially mysterious challenger which just gets sapped after proccing secrets, is favored for rogues.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Ill take it.
Hearthstone Deck Tracker most likely.
If it's like the other ones, you can buy everything remaining at once with cash ($2 discount per wing), but only the current week with gold.
Again, if rogue indeed "countered" the best deck in the meta, it wouldn't be rated so low and played so little. You are the exception here not me.
Group stages was Grim Patron, Druid and Handlock city.
Edit: Oh wait I thought you meant qualifier groups for some reason. In group stages many Secret Paladins got easy wins but it was their other decks that let them down. There weren't that many Secret Paladin vs Rogue matches to come up with a solid conclusion.
Not that I don't believe Rogue works well against it but if anything group stages also showed how strong Secret Paladin was. In one of the days Secret Paladin was completely undefeated.
Edit: Oh wait I thought you meant qualifier groups for some reason. In group stages many Secret Paladins got easy wins but it was their other decks that let them down. There weren't that many Secret Paladin vs Rogue matches to come up with a solid conclusion.
Not that I don't believe Rogue works well against it but if anything group stages also showed how strong Secret Paladin was. In one of the days Secret Paladin was completely undefeated.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Wow, Nefarian is still OP as fuck
Who knew
Who knew
veloxStrix
Banned
Rogue, unlike the best decks in the meta, actually requires a degree of skill to play making it a no go for the majority of players who are used to "play things on curve; win". Mr. Yagut hit ran from 18 or so to Rank #1 Legend with an almost 90% win rate this season. Absolutely monstrous. Rogue has Fan of Knives and Blade Flurry to deal with obnoxious boards, effectively deals with Minibot (Weapon, Backstab/SI7), and Mysterious Challenger can typically be killed without a hitch.
Also, played so little? StrifeCro, JustSaiyan, Yagut, and Hotform were all running it on ladder with a lot of success. Not to mention the recent success it saw in the World Championship (which is different from ladder, admittedly.)
WesternHeretic
Member
I think rag is stronger. If nef doesn't win by turn 8 i think it's gg. Race against clock. Need good early game cards.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
This, even worse when he plays another one on the following turn(its legendary so why my opponent drew two of them?) basically if Nef doesn't draw this is a close match otherwise Rag is crap.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I wish the timer was shorter for brawl cause people take so long...
WesternHeretic
Member
Happened against me 3 times and i won all 3 as rag....
While I'm like 1-2 in Nef praying on rng from hero power.
Seems like majority of the reddit thread agrees with me too but we will see by next week.
irfaanator
Banned
yea ive won both times as rag. but man is it butt clenching since nef gets that pay 2 mana cast any spell for free. Got lucky the first game and had both core hounds. second game was a bit closer but having baron geddon up for like 3 turns saved my ass