And Al'Akir. But yeah who plays Shaman lol.
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And Al'Akir. But yeah who plays Shaman lol.
Well Holy Champion and Auchenai too but yeah the midrange slot is anemic as fuck right now.
5 drops are also pretty lacking. Feels like we've been seeing Healbot, Azure Drake, Loatheb and Belchers for so long now. At least the 4 drop slot has an excuse, those cards have to compete against Shredder... what do the 5 drops really compete with? Most of them aren't even that interesting.
6 drops are just as bad if not worse but thing is that at the 6 drop you start getting into extremely strong tier cards or they wouldn't see play. Stuff like Emperor, Sylvanas, Reno Jackson and Dr 6. Basically this is where people start putting in Legendaries in their decks and the only way to be competitive is if your card is on par with a Legendary (like Highmane and Sky Golem are to Cairne).
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
And violet teacher, refreshment vendor, maybe tomb pillager, water elemental, auchenai soul priest, and there are others with 8-9 stats + beneficial abilities. You should try running some of them. They are very strong, even played over shredder in the right decks.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
BreezyLimbo
Banned
So what's in the chest at the end of the season anyways? Gold? Glory? Doctor Balanced?
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
BreezyLimbo
Banned
12-3 with Mech Mage so far... had a secret Paladin add me after the game to tell me I'm playing a deck that doesn't take any skill. I told him if he can't get wins with Secret Paladin he should just uninstall the game and he defriended me without response.
Got an enhance-o-mechano off of an unstable portal and decided to play into brawl to maximize it's effect... Was I punished? See for yourself:
Got an enhance-o-mechano off of an unstable portal and decided to play into brawl to maximize it's effect... Was I punished? See for yourself:
BreezyLimbo
Banned
So I'm at ranked 10
should I stop playing ranked? Will it go down if I lose a rank?
should I stop playing ranked? Will it go down if I lose a rank?
So Auchenai + Bolf + Tree a Life is a wombo combo you can do in this brawl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1uGLSvwsVk
I say "ideal" number of stats. So for a 4 drop, that would be 9 stats. We're talking 4/5, 5/4, 3/6, etc.
So Holy Champion, Auchenai, Violet Teacher, and Refreshment Vendor don't qualify.
Water Elemental is a card but I meant more like "new" cards in the game.
Tomb Pillager might quality but we've yet to see that card in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1uGLSvwsVk
I say "ideal" number of stats. So for a 4 drop, that would be 9 stats. We're talking 4/5, 5/4, 3/6, etc.
So Holy Champion, Auchenai, Violet Teacher, and Refreshment Vendor don't qualify.
Water Elemental is a card but I meant more like "new" cards in the game.
Tomb Pillager might quality but we've yet to see that card in action.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Keep going to 5 if you want to. It saves your "best" progress so it doesn't matter if you reach 10 and then drop to 20, you'll still get the 10 reward.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Nope. Check your player status screen and the chest will be for the highest rank you achieved this season.
WesternHeretic
Member
No you get the reward for the highest you reach. So even if you get legend then concede 10000 times in a row you still get legend rewards.
You should push for 5 just for golden epic aka 400 dust!
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Good stuff
I just bought an arena in panic
....so uh, does buying an arena pass with money give you better cards? I got a legendary+Ton of rares+ton of epics from it compared to a gold pass ._.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
These 8 mana cards in many ways have upsides that more than make up for missing 1 attack. Violet teacher is often going to net me 12 stats (or more and often on curve), for example, in oil rogue. And usually the health is much more important than the attack.
It also probably has a stronger taunt than actual taunt does, in practice due to how strong the text is and how motivated my opponent is to take it out.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Nope, doesn't change the variables. You were just lucky, congratulations!
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Naw, it's the same. Just confirmation bias.
I got three legendaries once and it was with gold
Maybe not if you are dropping it on Turn 4.
Violet Teacher is basically like a weaker flamewaker for its cost when you really think about it. That's kind of the point I'm expressing, too. When you look at the power of cards relative to their mana cost, the 1-3 slots are the strongest in the game.
So aggro shaman is now tier 2
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/meta-snapshot-39-sometimes-shaman-is-good
https://tempostorm.com/hearthstone/meta-snapshot/meta-snapshot-39-sometimes-shaman-is-good
End of an era.
Aggro Shaman literally closes out games faster than Face Hunter.
Also no way is Raptor Rogue at the bottom of tier 3.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
No fucking wonder I saw them everywhere on ladder today (~rank 10).
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
The first viable shaman deck in forever and its a smorc smash the face deck
this game has a fucking problem
this game has a fucking problem
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Flamewaker is also a card that sacrifices stats for text. And like VT, for it to really make an impact on turn 3 you need specific cards. For Flamewaker you need 1 mana spells and coin or apprentice to stick and 1 mana spells. With VT you need prep and a spell worth using. But it is very often worth doing. VT with prep + sap on turn 4 can create such huge tempo swings, especially because a lot of 4 mana cards are good at being sapped, like shredder. The other thing you can combo on turn 4 is something like coin and deadly poison or prep + eviscerate.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
welp, looks like you're right. time to buff animal companion, buzzard and eaglehorn then.
Oh and redesign UTH again imo
Haunted
Member
oy vey, the new brawl kinda... exposed Trump? :lol
I knew he was one of the slower thinking players, but that performance was just appallingly bad for someone who spends so much time playing the game. The complexity does ramp up quicker, but roping on turns 4 and 5 is unacceptable for a player on that level.
I knew he was one of the slower thinking players, but that performance was just appallingly bad for someone who spends so much time playing the game. The complexity does ramp up quicker, but roping on turns 4 and 5 is unacceptable for a player on that level.
irfaanator
Banned
saw that, and yea man majority of the top 10-15 are just aggro/tempo decks outside of like of them.
CelticKnight
Member
Put Brann Bronzebeard on the board, then dropped a Void Terror inbetween 2 Piloted Shredder's. I thought it would munch the Shredder then the minion that came out, but it just munches the shredder twice.
Still lost, though. I can't do the dailies with classes I have weak decks for.
Still lost, though. I can't do the dailies with classes I have weak decks for.
CelticKnight
Member
Yeah, I was just looking at that Zoolock deck on TempoStorm and was surprised that I had a few of the cards.
Looks like I might start to get out of my 1 deck comfort zone and start playing other classes.
Warsong Commander is also one of the most changed cards.
Went from give all your minions charge at 2/2 stats, to having 2/3 stats to giving charge to 3 or less attack to the current change.
I played a match yesterday where a Mage had 3 iceblocks or whatever that prevent death. So Im guessing they allow that secret to be 'discovered' by one of the cards then right? Shit is ridiculous. Dude got a block up on turn 3 from a scientist so was immune to death 99% of that fucking match because of that.
WesternHeretic
Member
LOL Kezan! If I play an freeze mage I'm saving that shit just for lethal. Because you know they will be spamming emotes knowing they have Ice block.
I love when freeze mage insta-concedes after I flare away their traps.
Let's not act like the meta snapshot is gospel.
Officerrob
Banned
Reynad clearly hates Hearthstone
It doesn't matter if I think it's gospel (I don't agree with a few of the choices in there as always).. what matters is that your average player on Ladder past rank 15 does and will follow it.
So if there are two Paladin decks occupying the top 2 slots then you can bet your ass there will be a lot of Paladins online.
No?
You play against Handlock like you always do. You keep them around the teens of health and smartly develop your board/clear his so that you can finish him in one turn. You need to be playing around Shadow Flame and Molten Giant, when you do that you play around Reno as well.
Besides you can't do much against Handlock even with Reno using Priest. Handlock has Jaraxxus which wrecks Priest anyway. Dragon Priest is better against it of course but it's still not a favorable match up to begin with.
Is warlock completely broken if they draw Reno Jackson (and its not that hard)? My Dragon Priest cant do shitnot enough damage in time and they always have Reno. Such a boring ass card to face, holy fuck.
I've been playing Dragon Priest a lot this season and I feel it is actually a decent matchup vs Renolock as long as you don't play into board clears, don't enable Molten Giant + Shadowflame, and don't get screwed by an early high hp Twilight Drake. Renolock has much less threats compared to regular Handlock which makes it a much easier game.
Don't get me wrong. I understand completely that the meta snapshot is the meta itself, essentially. The meta snapshot does more to define the meta than respond to it, really.
But that doesn't mean that any class or deck that ranks lower or higher than any other is necessarily a better class or deck. Sure, maybe the fact that aggro shaman is higher in the meta snapshot than any hunter deck means we'll probably see more aggro shaman decks on ladder, but that doesn't mean that aggro shaman is better.
So no, I'm not going to buy into the idea that hunter is actually the worst class just because it doesn't have a Tier 2 deck in the snapshot.
Shaman is still the worst class. I don't really believe that Aggro Shaman will last that long at that high of a spot. Feels like a flavor of the month aggro deck (which the game has had a lot of in the past). That deck runs out of steam super fast and the overloads can screw it up. Right now it seems pretty powerful because everyone is also playing tempo/aggro with limited heals and taunts so Aggro Shaman can shut down games real quick.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Thoughts about double Taskmaster in Control Warrior? Feel he is too useful to only run one of.