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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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Familienoberhauptvogel
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If they put Shaman Hero Power on a fixed rotation they should remove searing totem from the pool. Just have taunt, heal, spell power.
Wish I could share games from mobile. Just had the most intense renolock mirror, it came down to fatigue after both our deck fired on all ends. My Jaraxxus got pulled by Dirty Rat but I pulled his Reno Jackson in return. I had a pretty standard build w/o the combo while my opponent had a spicy brew playing Bloodsail Corsair w/ Patches and some other unusual cards. I still had my ooze for his Jaraxxus and won fatigue by 2 life against Jaraxxus and his 6/6s. Reno'd early in fear of combo that wasn't there but was able to stay on 30 up until fatigue afterwards.
Looking at Tempo Storm I'm running a super greedy Renolock list.
Pity timer is up, got a dupe Kazakus, which means I can finally craft Aya, stop buying Gadgetzan packs and start saving gold. Kazakus nerfs are unlikely prob gonna dust it soon.
Wish I could share games from mobile. Just had the most intense renolock mirror, it came down to fatigue after both our deck fired on all ends. My Jaraxxus got pulled by Dirty Rat but I pulled his Reno Jackson in return. I had a pretty standard build w/o the combo while my opponent had a spicy brew playing Bloodsail Corsair w/ Patches and some other unusual cards. I still had my ooze for his Jaraxxus and won fatigue by 2 life against Jaraxxus and his 6/6s. Reno'd early in fear of combo that wasn't there but was able to stay on 30 up until fatigue afterwards.
Looking at Tempo Storm I'm running a super greedy Renolock list.
Pity timer is up, got a dupe Kazakus, which means I can finally craft Aya, stop buying Gadgetzan packs and start saving gold. Kazakus nerfs are unlikely prob gonna dust it soon.
Didn't they mention the log-in bonuses would be starting with the release of the next expansion?
Glass Shark
Banned
They said it would be leading up to the next expansion.
DyslexicAlucard
Member
I cannot wait for the patch, if only for the STB nerf. While pirates may not immediately disappear from the meta, they'll be far less effective and will certainly see a downswing. Then I'll be able to write a "told you so 
" post re: STB being the problem, not Patches. Sure, Patches is crazy value, but its actual impact isn't that great and it can be dealt with easily. It was STB's two health combined with a weapon to defend it (and Patches if you only had the Hook) that made it so OP.
The pirates package, especially in Warrior, can already be very hit and miss; this nerf will, in all likelihood, bring the whole house of cards crashing down.
" post re: STB being the problem, not Patches. Sure, Patches is crazy value, but its actual impact isn't that great and it can be dealt with easily. It was STB's two health combined with a weapon to defend it (and Patches if you only had the Hook) that made it so OP. The pirates package, especially in Warrior, can already be very hit and miss; this nerf will, in all likelihood, bring the whole house of cards crashing down.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Just played against a double maelstrom portal, double lightning storm, double devolve, healing wave jade shaman.
veryslowhand
Banned
I don't think the pirate nerf will be enough, hope to be wrong.
quackamole
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Today's hearthstone for me is just an endless journey of pain. Played a whole bunch of decks, almost none of which worked out. Play jade druid, gets no jade no ramp. Play jade shaman, gets no jade and no early game. Play renolock, 6 games not one playable minion before turn 4, by which time I am already dead.
Meanwhile it seems all my opponents have good opening hand and draws perfect answers. Some days hearthstone makes me want to uninstall the damn game.
Meanwhile it seems all my opponents have good opening hand and draws perfect answers. Some days hearthstone makes me want to uninstall the damn game.
Charge has to be on there given how many time it has been changed.
Dr Balanced of course.
Sludge Belcher is pretty close to being among the best cards in Wild right now, better than Shredder.
Undertaker.
And Patches. So strong it has power creeped over Wild.
Pre-nerf Auctioneer, Leeroy, Blood Imp, Starving Buzzard were meta defining cards too.
Actually have another hall of famer: Pre, pre nerf Warsong Commander! Give your minions Charge ie. Molten Giants!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I can't believe Jade Spirit is good, just shows they didn't make enough Jade cards per class or neutral.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Not in the sense that Jade Lotus is not good enough but that a 2/3 for 4 that reads Jade is still good enough to make it into constructed.
Forgot rogue is even a Jade class.
Forgot rogue is even a Jade class.
looks like expansion is being announced on Monday.
I guess since Ben Brode is director now they've changed their promo routine. Maybe they don't drag this one forever. Honestly, there has been a lot of good changes since his promotion.
https://twitter.com/bdbrode/status/835558239416692736
I guess since Ben Brode is director now they've changed their promo routine. Maybe they don't drag this one forever. Honestly, there has been a lot of good changes since his promotion.
BananasWithGuns
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Going to be a long month if they announce it on Monday, assuming the expansion itself will drop on April 1st.
SonicXtreme
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i hate how vague brode is. like just post the news on monday. announcement of an announcement is so ridiculous. you're a videogame which is expected to have constant releases and patches (LMFAO right?), i don't need foreplay
Glass Shark
Banned
Agreed, STB honestly isn't the real problem with Pirate Warrior.
veryslowhand
Banned
Crafted silvanas in case hall of fame drops with short notice.
It's just some twitter fun, who cares?
SonicXtreme
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i actually think the pre announcements of things like nerfs are detrimental to the game. for instance, pirate warrior obviously has been turbo popular since this meta began, but since the STB nerf has been announced, wild has been even more overrun with WPWs, and the shaman antics as well. For nerfs, it's best to just drop the bomb out of nowhere, otherwise you promote a toxic environment in the interum before they get dropped. you're literally telling the whole community 'this card is broken, we'll fix the glitch soon, in the meantime have fun with your end stage cancer'. definitely doesn't bode well for the 'casual' audience they are always so worried about.
Sure. Right now I see all these soon to be nerfed cards that I hope will never ever see again because jesus fuck. But it's one thing to post a funny message on your twitter, another for your PR team to put up a tease. I realize it sort of blends together in this age of social media but I still largely put the benefit of the doubt in private twitter accounts being private.
Karsticles
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Don't play card games if you want to win only based on skill. RNG is half the game.
Brode has said multiple times that they don't like to announce nerfs early, their hand was forced due to the Reddit melt down happening over the state of the game. They announced them early to pacify the complainers and give some room so they could make other announcements (mammoth/arena) without people losing their shit.
I think that's an improvement. Old Blizard Nerfs, the card would be unusable in every mode. Putting them to wild only, they can still be used in Wild and Tavern Brawls.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Maybe I should just concede if I start with patches in hand. Percentage wise it's not worth the time.
SonicXtreme
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i can't imagine the proportion of people who open up hearthstone on a weekly basis that also visit the reddit is greater than a percent or two. if that's the case you'd think there would be a monthly/new season patch regularly considering how regularly that place loses its mind over things
And this from a guy who actually went to Blizzard HQ to help them out with creating cards for one of the next expansions.
SonicXtreme
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well everyone mulligans for reno and there's a good chance you don't play any cards that give it away until turn 3
Your post forgot that Torment: Tides of Numenera releases next week too! Get that CRPG goodness.
It's not just on the mulligan, even once it's clear what I'm playing, I'm seeing a lot of dumb stuff like leaving my knife juggler alone or entombing an egg instead of waiting for one of my big dudes to drop.
I don't think they've given us a 2 week heads up. They usually announce a few days ahead of time if I recall correctly.
SodiumBenzoate
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Streamer who's going to get shit on the hardest in my video? It's gonna be Day[9].
Inkmaster Solia - Awful awful awful awful awful. Worse than Freezing Potion.
Pint-Sized Potion - He actually sang a song about how this was the "best card in Priest".
And I ain't even into Part 2! If this goes on I'm gonna have to put a dedicated funeral section at the end just for him.
Inkmaster Solia - Awful awful awful awful awful. Worse than Freezing Potion.
Pint-Sized Potion - He actually sang a song about how this was the "best card in Priest".
And I ain't even into Part 2! If this goes on I'm gonna have to put a dedicated funeral section at the end just for him.
bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
Leeroy/Jaraxxus in Renolock is the truth. Dahbomb's list is on point btw.
Having both of those win conditions has been godlike for me. Works wayyyy better than Ragnaros/Jaraxxus.
Having both of those win conditions has been godlike for me. Works wayyyy better than Ragnaros/Jaraxxus.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I've had the opposite experience. The combo clumps up the deck in a way I'm uncomfortable playing with, Jaraxxus on the other hand is MVP.
bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
i would say the art of the combo is knowing when to gives up on the pieces and use them individually (i.e. PO+Sylvana, Faceless a Mountain Giant, etc) and when to save it for the big bang. I honestly win maybe 2-3/10 games with the whole combo, but when I do it really counts. Leeroy alone has been really useful.
Well Ragnaros isn't good at all in the current meta.
As far as the combo is concerned, only the Faceless usually sits in your hand. Leeroy can be comboed with Shadowflame to clear boards if you really need to or just do incidental finisher damage sometimes. PO is just amazing in general.
The skill is recognizing when you don't need the combo pieces to win and use them earlier to win through other means.
Not surprising. Day[9] is a entertaining guy but has never really been dedicated at anything except maybe StarCraft 1. Him having bad opinions is probably the least surprising thing. To me at least. Looking forward to the videos Zealous!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Midrange Shaman is the perfect deck to try to get rank 5 quickly with a mild fever. Just do the highest value play each turn.
It's not so much the playing of the combo, which I'm also not that comfortable with, but finding room for it in the deck. Cutting it lets me be much greedier with the list, in competitive I'd agree it's better with the combo.
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