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Hearthstone |OT8| Elise's Extremely Irresponsible Field Trip To Un'Goro
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Familienoberhauptvogel
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It's not unusual for CCG developers to tone down the power level of cards after a set as powerful as GvG.
Murloc Knight is GOAT
Murloc Knight is GOAT
Sooo good!
Thanks, I had no idea it was a bad expansion. Then, it's likely that even in wild there will be few cards worth using from there, so I'll just craft the few I might need.
TGT has a few standout cards but he majority of the set was utter garbage. Inspire was a decent idea that ended up paying too high a price in order to make it on cards. Joust was just a badly thought out mechanic and ends up being generally bad all the time. There are smarter ways to do that.
TGT did have stuff like Murloc Knight, Justicar Trueheart, Living Roots and several others which are either staples or really well designed. So the entire set isn't awful, but in general people are better off crafting the single cards from it that are good rather than getting the packs.
TGT did have stuff like Murloc Knight, Justicar Trueheart, Living Roots and several others which are either staples or really well designed. So the entire set isn't awful, but in general people are better off crafting the single cards from it that are good rather than getting the packs.
It's really fucking sad that the next roation only hits one of the Top 3 decks(according to Tempo Storm) ,while destorying several weaker decks?
Reno should really stick around for another year (unless he gets some kind of replacement), because without him , the Kabal members are not in a good spot.
The banlist (because that's what the Hall of fame is) only hits slower decks as well plus zoo.
I'm almost certian Leeroy is the reason why PO gets banned and not zoo.
Reno should really stick around for another year (unless he gets some kind of replacement), because without him , the Kabal members are not in a good spot.
The banlist (because that's what the Hall of fame is) only hits slower decks as well plus zoo.
I'm almost certian Leeroy is the reason why PO gets banned and not zoo.
ew yuckie reno needs to die in the fire cant wait for him to rotate out. sure sometimes I play my reno zoth mage (Wild) to fulfill my Mage quest but make no mistake I am not a fan of reno. It has made this game even more RNG filled (singleton decks) where your life hangs in the balance.
Let's get that crutch out of here. force people to make consistent decks and give them better tools to handle aggro. Let's get rid of this- "Omg I need you reno where are you?!?!?"
problem needs to be solved with new cards or something. Like for 1 mana turn any minion into a blocker. Yeah maybe that is awful but I'm just saying I am sure CCG experts can come up with something. It's a weird issue since in true MtG clones all minions are blockers.
Granted- Kazakus will still enforce singleton decks but people just need better consistent tools to handle aggro
Let's get that crutch out of here. force people to make consistent decks and give them better tools to handle aggro. Let's get rid of this- "Omg I need you reno where are you?!?!?"
problem needs to be solved with new cards or something. Like for 1 mana turn any minion into a blocker. Yeah maybe that is awful but I'm just saying I am sure CCG experts can come up with something. It's a weird issue since in true MtG clones all minions are blockers.
Granted- Kazakus will still enforce singleton decks but people just need better consistent tools to handle aggro
Mobius and pet octopus
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The meta is much wider than just the top 3 decks. It's not a safe assumption to conclude those 3 decks will still remain on top even next week let alone after the rotation.
Reno should definitely not stick around for another year. We've had enough of reno. The whole point of rotation is so we don't get stuck with the renos of the game forever.
And yes, PO got rotated because they want to put more limits on the burst it could provide. I think PO was fine in zoo though, and I think zoo is fine without it too.
What, the generous 11 cards on display from the month-long-anticipated live stream wasn't enough!?
Oh many you guys remember when they didn't meet their vote quota for the Warlock Legendary and then didn't reveal until it way later?
Man that was so lame.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Do people even remember the warlock leg? Krul Something Something
I remember it because Thijs stream that deck regularly
Mobius and pet octopus
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I actually think the few times I've lost to jade decks was because of brann combos. They're pretty damn slow otherwise.
I'm also glad brann is rotating out. It's gotta be one of the higher picked cards outside of aggro, tempo, and most rogue decks.
Right,it was krul, not the Don.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It's been a while since rogue got some hard removal. And rogue is supposed to be great at single target removal hmm.
To be fair most of the dragons in BRM were unusable until TGT. The 3-6 taunt brought dragon decks together.
yeah I watched him play for a little while this morning. never was fortunate enough to get Krul from a pack. Like Wrathion- seemed a bit too experimental for more taste to invest dust in
Really is a shame I do enjoy running that Kabal Traffiker lady when I get Warlock Quests. But it's in demonlock decks I run her in (no reno). just a fun goofy deck I like to run for quest grinding
No Karazhan is definitely bottom of the barrel too. Just because it had some cards that see play doesn't make it a balanced or a good release.
Honestly aside from Old Gods, all of the card expansions have had some big issues with them. GvG was way too fast and power creepy, MSG too polarizing and TGT too weak.
Mobius and pet octopus
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GvG largely suffered from too many strong neutrals. Otherwise I had little issue with it.
I think TGT is being a little underrated. I think there are a lot of well designed cards. Some of the card power levels were a bit too conservative though. Many were narrow misses imo.
This kind of random really isn't that random though.
I think TGT is being a little underrated. I think there are a lot of well designed cards. Some of the card power levels were a bit too conservative though. Many were narrow misses imo.
This kind of random really isn't that random though.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hearthstone/comments/60d7g8/30_new_cards_will_be_revealed_in_tavern_brawl/
apparently they're patching the cards this week, that would just reveal all the cards unless they're only patching a portion of the cards for the brawl and not the expansion.
Seems like too much effort for team5, they finally realized they have a digital game?
It's even more infuriating. It's straight up better than swashburgler, assuming elemental synergy does something notable too. It's not a battlecry but the effect is so much more powerful and DR actually is preferred for priest. Terrible design, I hate it already.
look at webspinner next to this, ridiculous. Forced OP priest cards until game implodes again, they learned nothing.
apparently they're patching the cards this week, that would just reveal all the cards unless they're only patching a portion of the cards for the brawl and not the expansion.
Seems like too much effort for team5, they finally realized they have a digital game?
It's even more infuriating. It's straight up better than swashburgler, assuming elemental synergy does something notable too. It's not a battlecry but the effect is so much more powerful and DR actually is preferred for priest. Terrible design, I hate it already.
look at webspinner next to this, ridiculous. Forced OP priest cards until game implodes again, they learned nothing.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Swashburglar actually gets the card immediately. Comparing battlecry to deathrattle, bc is typically better. However, deathrattle synergy cards aren't being rotated like brann is and priest quest synergy. Swash has a racial too. They're both fairly even imo. We'll have to see how elemental racial is relevant. Probably not as strong as summoning patches though.
So, thoughsteal?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
These kinds of effects are the reason priest is the worst class. Nothing is as infuriating as losing to your own cards. I'll take Yogg and RNG any day over having to kill my own Tirion again and again. Fuck Priest.
BananasWithGuns
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Oracle is good I think, probably on the same level as Babbling Book/Swashburglar. The quest taking up your turn 1 play hurts it slightly though. Still, I think it'll be run in the quest deck, probably as a two of. Might be good enough to see play in most other Priest decks as well.
Just realized it's a priest card. They really wanted to make that quest happening.
it cost 1/3 of it and has a body, activates synergy, is a DR. This one is actually good.
burgle vs swashburgler. One is unplayable, the other is pretty damn good and that's with a far weaker effect.
This one is about as good or better than drawing a real card unlike burgle effect.
It's shifting shade for 1 and has a tribe tag. It's absurd. Shade was too expensive and had bad stats.
I agree with you that card is stinky but that's the Priest archetype and as usual- it has nothing to do with the World of Warcraft version which never stole spells from opponents. Priest archetype has always been this way so I don't think this necessarily triggered Lifecoach. It would be something on the order of Yogg or some card that poofs crap for the player at random. Even discovery would set him off. edit- Actually maybe not discovery, it depends on how 'big' the possible selection is 'I think'
Funny thing it was him and SuperJJ loved to play Shaku like nobody's business and helped popularized it. Now Shaku is in like every rogue deck.
I dont put too much stock in Lifecoach quiting tho- just saw SuperJJ in tournament yesterday and that's his right hand man. Love Lifecoach as a streamer and I watch him play Gwent sometimes
<edit> To elaborate why I dont think this card sets off pros- cause they can reasonably guess what's left in their own deck and play around it.
funny thing that seems to have escaped notice on reddit (or I missed the thread)
Lifecoach / Wifecoach are eligible for global games.
so it appears he will at least compete in tournaments. Although he is apparently very well off (looking at his beautiful house overlooking the hills)- he will still compete for money
Hopefully his criticism will make Hearthstone a better game
Lifecoach / Wifecoach are eligible for global games.
so it appears he will at least compete in tournaments. Although he is apparently very well off (looking at his beautiful house overlooking the hills)- he will still compete for money
Hopefully his criticism will make Hearthstone a better game
Priest card is playable. Even with no other cards printed in the set that help elementals\, I think priests would run this.
Helpful vs aggro since it very likely gets you an aggressive card to play early.
Helpful vs control since it probably gets you either control cards or bigger minions
Helpful vs anything really. A free card from your opponent's deck is great as we have seen with DrakOP.
Thank god this card isn't a 1/3. At least a 1/1 it will die to anything.
Helpful vs aggro since it very likely gets you an aggressive card to play early.
Helpful vs control since it probably gets you either control cards or bigger minions
Helpful vs anything really. A free card from your opponent's deck is great as we have seen with DrakOP.
Thank god this card isn't a 1/3. At least a 1/1 it will die to anything.
Unlike everyone else I dont hatr babbling book or swash.. I admit those card can kick your ball to play against but on opposite its fun to play tbh
Not for the highroll but play unexpected result is very fun so the experience of those card even out for me.
And they already said swashburglar n babbling book is kind of 1 drop they rather to print and I aggree.. better this than new tunnel trogg for priest
Not for the highroll but play unexpected result is very fun so the experience of those card even out for me.
And they already said swashburglar n babbling book is kind of 1 drop they rather to print and I aggree.. better this than new tunnel trogg for priest
Yeah, it sounds like the Chinese doesn't have enough context to let people know exactly how things are going to work or how to translate things. They say that you can either make a Year of the Mammoth-legal deck or use a pre-made one, but it sounds like if you go for the former, you can't use the new Un'Goro cards?
Still can play two of those 1/1 on turn 2, not the best play tho. But quest is really awkward. Looking back at that warlock's quest it means a zoo deck will pass his 1st turn for quest.
So far I prefer the priest quest than warlock. Hopefully other classes could be better.
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