nial
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Actually, it was always Koei Tecmo. Sony just handled localization outside of Japan, it was never a WWS production.
Herman Hulst Promises Sony Will Deliver "At Least One" Singleplayer Tentpole Game A Year
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Astray
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Yes they're saying this now because it is now a hit, but they weren't calling it a big franchise in the actual FY when they were gearing up to release it.
nial
Member
You have to look at it in the context of having to explain to investors why you will see a big decrease in first-party revenue coming from having both Spider-Man 2 and Helldivers 2 in the last FY. They were already heavily mentioning Astro Bot as one of the emergent series in last year's Business Segment Presentation.
HeisenbergFX4
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Big budget big expectations big sales type of hits
Jinxed
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Astrobot won goty. Damn, they'd annually win GOTY, dope.
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L*][*N*K
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You are either on a payroll or in a strapped jacked in a padded cell because no one is that much of a fanboy. And no Death Stranding 2 and Rise of Ronin doesn't count, Death Stranding 1 is on Xbox for fuck's sake
nial
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My little friend L*][*N*K is.
Tell that to Sony, then. I don't make the rules.
Astray
Member
I am merely trying to point out that context lol.
iHaunter
Member
Throw Gran Turismo in there as well. People just don't like video games.
nial
Member
I don't think they were not aware of having a 94 MC game in the making, which is essentially the main criteria for it to be considered 'tentpole' in the first place.
CityHunter1981
An Absolute Desaster
But for every single player game at least 2 GaaS games who will miserably fail.
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keefged4
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& Knuckles
TerribleAtThisGame
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2028 - The Last Of Us: Part I Redux Knuckles Turbo Remaster
2027 - The Last Of Us: Part II Hyper Ultimate Director's Cut Remaster Knuckles Turbo Redux
Fixed
Papa_Wisdom
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The last Sony published games really enjoyed were gravity rush 1&2
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nial
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Literally only one tentpole game here, Gran Turismo 3.
2001.
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nial
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HAHAHAHAHAHHSHSHS WHAT THE FUCK. HE. IS. WHITE.
StreetsofBeige
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Looking at people's lists above, they do 1-2 big SP games per year though I wouldnt put Returnal/R&C big enough to be tentpole games. And one is a remake of a game that came out during the PS3 generation. Never the less, overall there is roughly 1+ per year.
Problem is they're almost all just big franchise sequels.
Where's all the big new IPs like they'd do in previous gens?
Problem is they're almost all just big franchise sequels.
Where's all the big new IPs like they'd do in previous gens?
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Fake
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I got PS5 mainly because my PS4 games run better on PS5.
If PS5 never had BC with PS4 I wouldn't get at all.
Fake
Member
Wanna bet if TLOUSpart2 will get a PS6 version?
I mean, they showed TLOUSpart2 at PS5pro presentation... a PS4 game.
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Punished Miku
Gaslighter Pro: 16.7 Fireflops
Intergalactic 2027
Barlog 2028
That's it for 1st party tentpole new IP. Wolverine also 2026 if you count licensed games. Then X-Men 2030 is my guess. Then maybe Sucker Punch's 1st PS6 game.
New IP AA games, Returnal, Saros, Astro Bot. Media Molecule whatever.
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Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Well, there was only a single player left.
kaizenkko
Member
Returnal is a roguelike.
Helldivers 2 is a PVE multiplayer.
Astro Bot is a platformer.
Gran Turismo 7 is a racing.
And they are developing Saros (another roguelike), Marvel Tokon (fighting) and publishing Nioh 3.
Honestly, I don't know how many people can be so blind to about some things.
PS5 output is better than PS4 easily. Better games overall and of a more diverse genres.
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yurinka
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This year said they plan to release at least a tentpole title in the best selling part of the year (holidays season). Last year he said they plan to release at least a tentpole title during the holidays season.
This doesn't mean they will only release only one tentpole title per year, or only a just a single game per year. As an example, in 2025 they will have (at least announced) Death Stranding 2, Lost Soul Aside and Yotei, being that last one in the one for holidays season. In addition to this, they also have the live service games, as this year should be (if not delayed) MLB, Marathon, Midnight Murder Club and Convallaria.
As I remember for 2026 they have (at least announced) the tentpoles Saros and Wolverine. and the live service Marvel Tokon.
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ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
He's the head of PS Studios. In the practically impossible case that he doesn't have the weight that title entails, it means someone who we don't know is actually running 1st party. Just as if not more dangerous.
Saros is not going to be a tentpole bro.
Tokon is there, yeah. Wolverine isn't confirmed for anything at all. At this stage, I won't be surprised if it releases in 2027.
Deerock71
Very Poor Hoice of Wor
Hawking Radiation
Wants to watch an Event Horizon porno
Hey Hermen, here have a pole to go along with your tent. Maybe two.
nial
Member
I wouldn't be so proud of those reading skills.
OMG! Did I read that right!? A WHOLE GAME PER YEAR????
What a fucking commitment right there, Sonybros celebrate, you get 1 Game from Sony Interactive Entertainment per year, imagine that...
Now you can play an actual game between the GAAS flops that keep filling up, enjoy
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Kagoshima_Luke
Gold Member
Produce less games, increase price for online subscription, rake in the millions. Excellent business.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
yurinka
Member
Saros is going to be a tentpole 100%: Housemarque is listed under single player studios. Wolverine is confirmed as not FY25 PS5 game and in the leaks appeared as 2026 game.
Tokon is going to be a live service game like any other modern fighting game. So not a tentpole.
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Victorboris1987
Neo Member
1 singleplayer tentpole game every year and 2 live service dumpster fires as well. I bet people can't wait for Fairgame$ and Marathon.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Their last game struggled to sell 1 million. Saros is not going to boost that ridiculously. It'll probably sell less than Astro Bot. Look at the trailer views.
Jesb
Member
In hindsight was Sony wasting this gen with gaas an actual good thing? Now that we witnessed so many failures, so much money lost for Sony on Gaas, maybe this gives them now a clean slate for next gen in regards to not seeing Gaas anymore or mostly gone. Maybe we'll start to see maybe a ratio of 80%-20% in the favour of single player games. Or maybe that number can even be further to like 90%-10%.
Kiya's Guard
Member
One damn game a year, no wonder why they wanna charge 90 bucks for them. How the days of older generations have passed
genesisblock
Member
Uh huh, and does tentpole include remakes are just new IPs? Also can we have Astrobot Rescue Mission remastered to the PSVR2? I'm amazed this hasn't happened yet.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
It's funny, isn't it? Last time I checked, the majority of gamers were tired of bloated open-world games. Yet, Sony's approach seems to be to make their titles bigger and bigger. Then they complain about rising development costs, claiming that's why games are becoming more expensive. How about not letting the budget get insane and instead following your "recent existing success"?
yurinka
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It was a weird niche game, new IP and a next gen only PS5 exclusive for its launch window from devs who until now made only small games, so obviously it would be stupid to expect it to sell like GTAV.
We don't know the Returnal sales until now, but Sony got so happy with them when launching the game that bought their studio a month after shipping the game.
PS5 now has a way bigger install base and Returnal generated a good word of mouth. So pretty likely this one will sell better.
Like Returnal, Rift Apart, Astro or Stellar Blade, pretty likely won't sell many millions of copies but pretty likely will sell a few of them, will be profitable and will win some awards. So Sony will be happy with it.
Hermen originally refered as 'tentpole' to new SP AAA games, the traditional big PS Studios game like as could be a new GoW or DS2.
I assume he originally counted Astro Bot as 'experimental' instead (smaller games targeting new genres/audiences/platforms not dominated by their 1st party). But after it won so many awards I think he promoted it to 'tentpole'.
I assume remasters don't count as tentpole, and anything related to VR counts as 'experimental'.
But well, if Astro has been so successful I assume they'll now will want to milk it. A Rescue Mission port would be great, but according to their studio head it was complicated because the PSVR1 headset had the camera in the TV and PSVR2 in the headset, which since this game did use head movement as important game mechanic complicates the port considerably.
Other than this, they didn't announce any 1st or 2nd party game for PSVR2 since a lot of time ago, maybe because didn't sell enough to justify them. And may consider that the potential sales of this remaster maybe wouldn't be enough to make the remaster profitable.
They 'didn't waste this gen with GaaS'. MLB, GT7, Destiny 2 and Helldivers 2 are very successful, pretty likely having already providing enough profit to fund budgets of the failed, cancelled, not greenlighted and remaining half a dozen GaaS to be published. It's a successful and profitable initiative before releasing its the second half.
It didn't affect the budget of the non-GaaS games, which also increased. The GaaS initiative was an investment with a separate budget made on top.
From what they released last year and what they have planned for this and next year, seems that their idea is to release a couple of GaaS per year: one backed by top tier devs or IPs and another one more experimental / niche.
They are expanding their 1st/2nd party both in GaaS and non-GaaS to cover all the main genres / audience segment in each business model.
Regarding tentpoles, their idea isn't '1 per year', it's 'at least 1 per holiday season'.
As an example, this year they'll release minimum (more can be announced) 3 tentpole games: Death Stranding 2, Lost Soul Aside and Ghost of Yotei, being the Yotei one the one for holidays.
For next year they'll have minimum (more can be announced) Saros and Wolverine, being pretty likely Wolverine the one for holidays.
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What Sony game is $90?
Actually, scratch that, what game in general is $90 today?
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Sony can be as happy as they like, I'm not, and most of the base isn't.
if most of the base isn't happy how does Sony continue to set records with sales and profits on an ongoing basis?
HRK69
Member
Oh no, the PS5 isn't dropping a first party blockbuster every time you sneeze? Must be a brick, right? Totally useless... except for, y'know, the hundreds of amazing third-party games it plays better, faster, and prettier than anything from last gen
HRK69
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Oh wow, thank you for speaking on behalf of millions of people, Prophet of the PlayStation Nation™
