diffusionx
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He was in a leadership position long before he took over as CEO.
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Where did all the fake hate for Herman Hulst come from?
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James Sawyer Ford
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And ps5 has one of the strongest software starts since the ps2 under his leadership
Radical_3d
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It’s for things like this why we can’t convince any other government to legalise marihuana.
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You had KillZone 1 day one? I didn't really pay attention to KillZone until the PS3 trailer, it had a nice run in the PS3 / PSP era but even the really nice graphics on PS4 wasn't enough to keep people's interests. Horizon sold more in its 1st game than all the KillZone games put together so yes We killed it.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
It's delusion. People like to think they know what his strategies are despite knowing absolutely nothing about the man or his job. They built up something in their mind to hate.
A lot of gamers are dumb.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
It’s for things like this why we can’t convince any other government to legalise marihuana.
Laugh all you want, sales and ratings are laughing back at you
diffusionx
Gold Member
Don Mattrick launched the most successful peripheral of all time for Xbox.
Fabieter
Member
They didn't but xdev europe did. Sony didnt had any games from China and SK before and tbh do we even know to what extent they are involved in some of those games. We know that Japan Studios had the idea for bloodborne and approached from Software for the game.
Hulst was stupid to close it and he deserves the hate.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
What does Kinect have to do with launching successful first party games on ps5?
Radical_3d
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I’m glad sales are going ok for the upper guys. But you were talking about software power. Show me these four years of PS5 exclusives.
Loomy
Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Jim Ryan approved the purchase of Firewalk and he no longer runs Playstation.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Launching what? Another new Horizon nobody cares about? Concord? Until Dawn remake?
Being a leader is about a vision and a plan and he seems to be good at churning out soulless remakes and burning the platform's long term viability for short term cash. He is a disaster. Quite frankly, after Concord, I thought the discussion was totally over, this guy is clueless and has no idea what the market wants and where things are headed. There is no debate on it anymore.
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Bernardougf
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Well sony strategy for my personal tastes has been absolutely horrible this gen ... low first party production, drop in quality with bad sequels, stupid remakes/remasters, DEI flooding their western studios, bad GAAS push...
I could blame Jimboz but he is gone.. so throwing the blame on Hulst is the next best thing.. and all reports puts him as the Concord project supporter at Sony.
My playstation has become a priority multiplat machine for the first time since forever. And I have all the money I want with absolutely zero incentive to buy a ps5pro .
So to each their own ... but sony and theirs western ceo right now can go eat shit
I could blame Jimboz but he is gone.. so throwing the blame on Hulst is the next best thing.. and all reports puts him as the Concord project supporter at Sony.
My playstation has become a priority multiplat machine for the first time since forever. And I have all the money I want with absolutely zero incentive to buy a ps5pro .
So to each their own ... but sony and theirs western ceo right now can go eat shit
Kvally
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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What about racist Dutch? Checkmate.
nial
Gold Member
When, exactly?
From Stellar Blade's credits, as much as Freedom Wars.
And that's where their creative input stopped.
Yet you haven't brought up any convincing argument for this, and it wasn't a closure either.
Fabieter
Member
Damn all that by himself.
nial
Gold Member
I love when people purposely avoid mentioning stuff that doesn't fit their narrative. Even when I don't agree about 2/3 of these being bad, you can't possibly think that of Stellar Blade or Astro Bot. Hey, everyone knows Death Stranding 2 and Ghost of Yotei will suck, sure...?
You blame the bad on himself only so why not
Fabieter
Member
Stellar Blade received the same level of support as a small handheld game? That’s surprising.
We need to see more ambitious collaborations from dev. Seriously, where are the Japanese games? It feels like empty words when he claimed they were still important to him and Sony after taking over. A Spencer-style lie, honestly.
Most unique games in sonys line up
Better and more collaborations
Cheaper than all his gaas shit
No its wasn't a closure. He just fired 80% of the people.
Radical_3d
Member
And that seemed more like an Andrew House thing. He was fangirling in Japanese besides Kojima with his eyes with sparkles.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
“Exclusives” doesn’t matter because I know you’re going to be like “bububu crossgen”, I’m talking about software released on PlayStation consoles in general during this time
Demons Souls
Miles Morales
Returnal
Ratchet
Horizon FW
GT7
God of War Ragnarok
Spider-Man 2
Helldivers 2
AstroBot
Not to mention partnership projects:
Sifu
Stray
Kena
FF16
Stellar blade
Rise of ronin
FF7R
And of course lots of remasters
Compare to ps1/ps3/ps4 and it’s night and day
Paasei
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Fabieter
Member
Let me guess all those games were handmade by hust himself as well.
nial
Gold Member
Sigh, if I didn't need any more reason to believe you're just too clueless about this topic...
The same level of support as New Minna no Golf. Happy?
Just so you can complain that they're second-party, maybe...
GT7, ROTR and Astro Bot, with DS2 coming up soon. And I already told you that SIEJ produces more than Japanese games these days.
Producing AAA blockbusters like GT7 and DS2 isn't like enough proof?
Ok, you know? Prove this shit, you guys always like to say this, so I'm waiting for actual proof, with names and all.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Just like concord was all Herman’s fault right?
Who said it was hand made by him only? He was head of Guerrilla games though wasn't he. Blaming him for certain Studio closures and making some GaaS games isn't just Hulst either though, right? Hulst wasn't even CEO when Japan studio closed, he was only CEO when Firewalk did.
Funny how that works lol
Pasta la Vista
Member
This is what kinda sealed the deal for me. This fucking tool doesn't even know which side is up on the PS5. Just goes to show you how detached he is.Ever since he posted this:
Fabieter
Member
He served as the head of Worldwide Studios for several years before being promoted to CEO.
Do people credit the head of Epic Games for Unreal Engine’s success and reputation as a cool and innovative tool? It doesn’t seem like that kind of recognition happens much here. Instead, does he face criticism for Epic’s controversial exclusivity deals? While Hulst isn’t a tech expert, he has made several questionable decisions. However, as the head GG he was decent at overseeing studios without micromanaging or interfering with other studios like he did with Japan studios.
Radical_3d
Member
Ok. We’re not speaking the same language here, so I’m not try to argue with you. This attitude creates exactly the type of fan that has driven Xbox to where it’s now. All is alright. Exclusives doesn’t matter. The management is GOAT. Look at the benefits. Fortunately there seems to be more critical Sony fans than yes men in GAF. And that list is pathetic.
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Ok? And you think this is good?
Why do you believe he was micromanaging or interfering with Japan studios? So can we attribute Astrobot to him then? I'm guessing you're going to say no.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Xbox’s problems were not about cross gen games, it’s with having any high quality games at all
The games I listed are high quality, reviewed well, sold well. Because some of them also came to PS4 is irrelevant. They sold plenty of PS5s
Maybe he just wanted a better view of the disc drive
diffusionx
Gold Member
If I didn't like PlayStation and didn't want it to be around for a long time, I would be fine with Hulst as leader.
The guy doesn't understand gaming, the pivot to GAAS has been shit, he bungled the Sony Bend situation badly, he didn't even understand the right side up to the product he worked on releasing. The game releases are like, riding off the momentum. You look at the early Mattrick years of Xbox, end of 360, and beginning of One, and it was pretty good, but once that ran out, there was nothing left. It doesn't take a great wonderful leader to tell Insomniac to make a game or whatever. They always make great games. Is it a good idea to have them work on endless capeshit? Well it makes sense now but will people care in five years? Does he understand that every Horizon announcement is met by groans amongst gamers? So it's about setting the company on the path to success and he doesn't understand that. He is also burning it for short term cash, the same mistake Spencer and Mattrick made for Microsoft. He sucks, Sony needs to get rid of him. The fact that they didn't exile him to Elba made me very concerned as a PlayStation fan.
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Fabieter
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You seem quick to give him credit for projects that were already in development long before he took over. Most of those games are sequels, and aside from *Astro Bot*, they were greenlit by others, not Hulst. *Death Stranding* isn’t even a Sony-owned IP anymore.
It really shows that he doesn't care for japan and that he pushes his horizon and gaas games more than other stuff.
It was one of the few games he greenlit that actually turned out well, so credit where it’s due for supporting it. However, do I think Yoshida would have done the same? Absolutely—and he was ten times better as the head of Worldwide Studios.
Radical_3d
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Are you a shareholder?
HRK69
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SJRB
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I saw Hermen Hulst at a grocery store in Amsterdam yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
Pasta la Vista
Member
Maybe he never actually put a disc in the drive to begin with. Pretty embarrassing for someone who leads a fucking video game company.
