Familienoberhauptvogel
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scoobs are you taking the cocktail talent at 1 for GMayne? I find Wolfheart to good to pass up.
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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
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I have been reading Nazeepo's blood ritual talent wrong the entire time since his rework. I thought it was a hot and didn't stack - but it's just an instant 2% health and mana everytime something dies. This has revolutionised my enjoyment of him - once you hit level 4 he kicks the shit out of *everyone* in lane, even Alarak.
I also have stopped going spider build, except for the spider talent at 16. Extra range at 1 and Dead Rush is so ridiculously strong, and helps you get your stacks up fast as well.
I also have stopped going spider build, except for the spider talent at 16. Extra range at 1 and Dead Rush is so ridiculously strong, and helps you get your stacks up fast as well.
Yeah, it gives him his old trait, which is huge in solo queue.
On BoE and possibly Braxis I think you want the spider one since he's going to be skirmishing so much. For the others it totally makes more sense to blood ritual in most circumstances.
scoobs
Member
I've tried both, and they're both good. Personal preference would be my call on that one, so I go with the range on Q so I can stack easier.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I love when people get all mad when you just let them know in a constructive manner something they are doing wrong, then at the end you get MVP with stats showing you basically did half the work for the whole team in every category so they can't say shit about you.
I'm sure his old trait was a heal over time though wasn't it? And it didn't stack, so wiping out a wave did t give you the full effect, whereas the new talent does which makes a big difference.
Or am I going completely mad?
scoobs
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sounds like fucking nightmare fuel. Shouldn't even be possible to have that many stealthies on a team.
It really tickles my balls that people are finally realizing Nazeebo is awesome.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It's even worse in QM, the opponent will also have 2 to 3 stealthies every single time. The one time I'm happy about playing with and against bad people.
From what I remember it was always a bit of mana and heal back on each kill.
EDIT: From the wiki. I can't tell if this is current or old. That's current.
Voodoo Ritual said:
EDITx2: One of the old patch notes from August 2015 says this:
-Voodoo Ritual (Trait)
>Blood Ritual (Talent) Health and Mana restoration bonuses increased from 100% to 125%.
EDITx3: Here we go. From the rework patch notes on September 27, 2016:
Voodoo Ritual (Trait)
Damage over time effect is now only applied to non-Heroes
Duration increased from 4 to 6 seconds
Killing an enemy affected by Voodoo Ritual no longer restores Health and Mana
New Functionality:
You now permanently gain 4 Maximum Health and 1 Maximum Mana if an enemy Minion dies while affected by Voodoo Ritual
EDITx4: It appears it started out in early Alpha as Death Ritual, then was changed to Voodoo Ritual with the permanent health/mana boost becoming a talent. Then with the rework they changed it back to a permanent health/mana boost and added Voodoo as a talent.
You can see all changes to Nazeebo in patches here. As well as any other hero, I would guess.
The old trait was per kill, I don't think it was as strong though.
Yeah, it wasn't very fun. I was playing Valla so I basically had to save my multi shot and it wasn't going to hit all of them.
We only had Valeera for a stealthy. It was Valla, Valeera, Alarak, Murky and Nazeebo. The Murky was a rager too. Made for an entertaining game.
Yeah, I'm fairly sure the old trait was a heal over time, because I'm sure you had a small timer for the buff when it was active. It triggered off the kill, but because it didn't stack you never got the full effect from a wave of minions like you do now. Think it was something's like 2% health and 1% mana over 2 seconds per kill?
The new level 4 is definitely stronger, it's noticeable how strong it makes him in lane at 4 and the old trait definitely wasn't that good.
The new level 4 is definitely stronger, it's noticeable how strong it makes him in lane at 4 and the old trait definitely wasn't that good.
Got Zul'jin to 10 tonight. Master skin is alright, nothing special. Glad I was able to pull this lucky guillotine off in this massive stomp against us.
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Also, playing Valeera out of stealth for 80% of the game is the way to play her. Felt so much better when actually securing kills.
https://gfycat.com/ConsiderateSplendidAmericancrocodile
Also, playing Valeera out of stealth for 80% of the game is the way to play her. Felt so much better when actually securing kills.
jaundicejuice
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Drinking and playing Illidan is QM is probably not advisable, but it's fun.
scoobs
Member
Drunk Cho'Gall is the best
TheSadRanger
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TheSadRanger
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I just spent $20 on loot boxes for overwatch and $28 on the monkey king/ming bundle.
I feel like I'm getting spit roasted by Blizzard ;_;
edit: Blue winter veil Jaina + blue nimbus looks fking sweet tho.
I feel like I'm getting spit roasted by Blizzard ;_;
edit: Blue winter veil Jaina + blue nimbus looks fking sweet tho.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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As much as I love chromie I do not like a competitive meta where she's viable.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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It's somewhat developing from niche to really, really good on spiders. Small Map with lots of corridors, a pushing objective and goaltending turn in points + the repeated buffs make her a menace on the map.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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The games with chromie quickly lose their lustre on spiders. Kerrigan is exciting with her combo, it's splashy. Chromie just throws shit out.
Is Zuljin on Braxis a thing because he can hold a point for the whole duration of tazzdingo.
Is Zuljin on Braxis a thing because he can hold a point for the whole duration of tazzdingo.
In the 4v4 skirmish lane YOU GOT AXE? is able to finish very quickly as long as he isn't repeatedly picked off.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Oh yeah he's supposed to be a better valla once he gets it.
I'm looking at bakery's mana bar and thinking he'll have to back but then saw he had picked feral heart and just laughs at mana.
I'm looking at bakery's mana bar and thinking he'll have to back but then saw he had picked feral heart and just laughs at mana.
To me it's like just new tech, teams are still trying out responses so it's fun to watch
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Did Dig not realise tranqu and laser were down while they had all their heroics?
Saw this on reddit, heroes filtered through wr per map https://imgur.com/a/ynMhF
What a weird set of charts. Heroes sorted on how well they perform on a map compared to how they perform on other maps, not how they perform compared to other heroes. So Chrome gets top tier on the BoE chart with a 46% winrate, while Jaina gets bottom tier with a 50% winrate.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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that's why the stats are valuable. Winrate per map is easy to look up yourself
It's teling you how good a hero is on a given map relative to other maps.
This is less important w/ general strategy and more important with "I know how to play X. When should I pick X?"
But it isn't, if you can also play another hero with a similar role that has a higher winrate on the same map. Like my previous example, if I'm on BoE, and I know how to play both Jaina and Chromie, why would I take Chromie, given that she has a 4% lower winrate? I'm not saying you should never take Chromie over Jaina on this map, but that chart gives no special reason to do so.
Think of it this way - if there were a hero with a 20% overall winrate, and his best winrate was 35% on BoE, there would be no reason to pick him, despite the fact that he'd be on the top of that chart.
This is what you're missing- this is something that lets you isolate your hero pool and play to its strengths.
Those %s also don't account for individual skill. LiquidCris is going to play Chromie a lot because he is good at Chromie. The data can illuminate maps he may want to experiment w/ using her on.
I get what ur saying, the way i personally view it tho (and all hotslogs stats at that) is that wr is often frivolous and based off of poor play. So in this context it's less "what heroes are the best for x map" and more "what maps are best for x". In the end the chart is a jump off point for thought, not an end. When drafting it is more important to sus out what valla brings to boe (like this much more a deciding factor when drafting than "who is currently posting a good wr") vs. another pick, and with a chart like this you get a generating of a base discussion on how dif heroes kits affect dif maps. Mainly it's common sense but it's nice to have a visual. But yeh this chart doesnt answer "why valla over chromie and when"
Familienoberhauptvogel
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like always winrate is never the end all be all but these kinds of curated statistics do give you relevant information.
McIntyre is on bstep
McIntyre is on bstep
Picking her into a Valla/Li-Ming seems like a p good idea.
edit: LOL at the Thrall deletion after the attempted SunderFlank.
edit2: Second Sunder attempt, 5 Man Mosh in response! Holy crap.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Tempo kinda won despite the valeera this game. Valeera got caught out repeatedly and was at best baiting out CDs
Familienoberhauptvogel
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not much to see