http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/The_Witcher_3_monsters
I know there is some uniques in there and some are different types of same race, but even then it's very respectable number and does come close.
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Horizon Zero Dawn |OT| The Land After Time
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http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/The_Witcher_3_monsters
I know there is some uniques in there and some are different types of same race, but even then it's very respectable number and does come close.
Omnistalgic
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Weird gripes..Enemy variety is crazy, the 26 have variations, and 26 different unique enemies is kinda a lot to me, dunno what you're talking about there, but yea...
Get out of the main area, the game opens up a lot. Play on Hard or very hard, combat definitely opens up.
SlasherJPC
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Honestly until you get out of the start area and even more so to the huge section of the map, can you truly gauge or see the scope of the encounters and enemies. Hitting the main portion of the map almost felt like a brand new experience for me.
WordsintheWater
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Just had a battle with 5 different types of machines at once, you guys watching streams and making judgements about gameplay seriously need to play the game in order to see how exhilarating it is.
Nothing we haven't seen before, but for those who are sensitive about spoilers of machine names here's what I fought, each of them unique which made it all the more awesome
Nothing we haven't seen before, but for those who are sensitive about spoilers of machine names here's what I fought, each of them unique which made it all the more awesome
Stormbird, Snapmaw, Longleg, Broadhead, Sawtooth
Most of those enemies just look a little different and are fought and react exactly the same. Fight a griffin and you have fought every flying enemy above the size of a harpy. Having half a dozen drowner clones isn't very impressive to me.
Omnistalgic
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I'm tryna tell em '-)
Damn 5 types lol how far are you in the game?
Uncapped FPS in menus?
SlasherJPC
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Will be very interesting to see those that pile on the disappointment not even making it that far.
RedlineRonin
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Just finished the first hourish and got to the
The beginning is so touching. It's a lot more heartfelt than I thought it would be for this type of game.
And I swear...
Aloy grows up montage
The beginning is so touching. It's a lot more heartfelt than I thought it would be for this type of game.
And I swear...
If something bad happens to Rost, I will straight up murder everyone even remotely involved
Snkfanatic
Banned
Oh yay, Amazon sent my copy via USPS. Guess I might get it by Thursday >.>
WordsintheWater
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About 15 hours, 35% and about half of the map uncovered, not too far story wise only completed 9 main missions These types of things are starting to happen a lot now, it's ramping up.
Just eyeballing it, Witcher III and Horizon seem about equal in terms of enemy variety. Witcher III had tons of different named enemies but a lot shared movesets with only slight changes (ghouls / alghouls, all wraith types more or less the same, etc).
Still I think both are admirable in terms of variety. Not really seeing a point in pitting them against one another.
Spine_Ripper
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Most likely unlocked FPS. Happens all the time in menus lol.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Kinda tempted to get this tomorrow. Is it as good as Witcher 3 was?
WhiskerFrisker
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Menus are definitely running at 60fps so it's likely.
Nice!
kobe(beast)
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Yo. gamestop selling it at 9pm.
Prithee Be Careful
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My original comment was made with reference to TW3, which is my point.
And yes HZD doesn't offer the absurd number or variantions, but it's an open world game action game that still has the same tactical marking systems, stealthing or open combat options, distraction and bating techniques, traps, take downs from above/below, enemy alert levels, alarms that call reinforcements, sets of gear which improve camouflage and quieten footfalls vs. damage resistance, etc, etc.
They're not identical and the AI grantedly isn't as strong (Kojima's had 30 to perfect this) but you make it sound like though I'd made some absurd comparison - likening it to Halo 5 or Resident Evil 7.
Did you try pausing and then unpausing? You might get better speeds. There's no way it should take 60 hours to download.
kobe(beast)
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Hi, can you give an early impression, specifically about the quests & crafting system?
Equanimity
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So I'm trying to understand why Horizon reminds you more of RotTR because everything you have mentioned is found in Dragon Age, The Witcher 3, etc.
RotTR is not set in a seamless open world
RotTR doesn't include multiples dialogue options
RotTR doesn't include giant moving robotic "towers"
RotTR is extremely limited in unique enemy types and variants
Is it the bow?
The menu run at 60fps.
Yes. You guys might wanna check out the impressions thread (no spoilers edition).
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1344476
TheChewyWaffles
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How the hell do I preload?
JayWood2010
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Ok so I fixed my download on PS4.
1. Changed DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
This took it from 24 hours to 8 hours. Still absurd for 88mbdl.
2. I put it in rest mode. This didnt seem to help at all.
3. I paused and resumed the dload. it took it from 8 to 4 hour. Then i paused and resumed again. Its now at 90 minutes...
There is a reason i am not a big fan of PS Network. I have always had issues with it. Hope this helps anybody who is having similar issues as me though.
1. Changed DNS to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
This took it from 24 hours to 8 hours. Still absurd for 88mbdl.
2. I put it in rest mode. This didnt seem to help at all.
3. I paused and resumed the dload. it took it from 8 to 4 hour. Then i paused and resumed again. Its now at 90 minutes...
There is a reason i am not a big fan of PS Network. I have always had issues with it. Hope this helps anybody who is having similar issues as me though.
MegaSackman
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Dam son! sounds spectacular.
Dialogue can be part of core gameplay loop if there is a lot of it, but other things on your list don't have much to do with core gameplay loop.
It isn't the bow.
JayWood2010
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Had issues with this as well. Go to library after you purchase it. You would think they would give you the option to just start it up after you purchase it.
texhnolyze
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I've sunk about 3 hours into the game so far and I absolutely love it. I've been using stealth approach for the enemies thus far and it's pretty great.
The side quests are pretty good too. The dialogue choices system is more like Witcher or Bethesda games, I can choose to gather more information or just go straight to business.
There's also Batman/Witcher-like follow the trails sequence lol.
The side quests are pretty good too. The dialogue choices system is more like Witcher or Bethesda games, I can choose to gather more information or just go straight to business.
There's also Batman/Witcher-like follow the trails sequence lol.
WordsintheWater
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Crafting system is simple, there are a few times where you need to destroy specific enemies to acquire items to buy better outfits and weapons. Gathering resources gets as complicated as if you want to acquire more Blaze then you shouldn't blow up the canisters the enemy has on its back.
Quests have all been enjoyable so far, all the sidequests I have encountered have a story behind them and usually lead you down paths to different enemies, you don't do anything really different in them, and they all usually have a similar set up, at least so far. The main quest is engaging and has you doing things in a more linear fashion a few of the times, haven;t gotten too far in that either. There are these things called errands as well, that are smaller side missions, usually don't have that much story behind them. Overall sidequest wise it reminds me of Witcher 3, there a bit too many follow this trail quests that Witcher was also guilty of.
Equanimity
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From the main menu, scroll to the right and select library, scroll down and select purchase, and then find your game and download.
TheChewyWaffles
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Yah I did that but it just says "Overview" where it should say "download" or "preload"
peanuthead
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I started downloading this afternoon, and it estimated 27hours...and I have 200mbs internet. PSN sucks.
kobe(beast)
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millions thanks. I was looking so hard for this.
Boogalogist
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Pause and resume until you get better download speeds.
Okay, I did this. It went from 60 hour sto 5 hours. I'll take it. Thanks!
edit: also it seemed that closing my suspended game helped, but I'm not positive of that
gordon1470
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Yay, my Amazon US order shipped, and should get here tomorrow morning! HYPE
Equanimity
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There is over 10 hours of dialogue in Horizon.
If you consider combat to be part of the general gameplay loop then you must also acknowledge the difference between RotTR and Horizon's enemy variety, variation and how that affects the overall gameplay.
Tallnecks are part of the optional gameplay progression loop.
You sure it isn't the bow?
hairygreenpeas
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Amazon finally shipped my copy early this morning! I hope It arrives at a reasonable time because I want to sink at least an hour or two into the game to partially satisfy my thirst lol.
I also ended up watching the story and the launch trailers for the first time today - now my brain can't stop thinking about how the narrative unfolds! I have so many questions!
I also ended up watching the story and the launch trailers for the first time today - now my brain can't stop thinking about how the narrative unfolds! I have so many questions!
HalfBakedProphet
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I'm surprised this was only rated T.
Some of these stealth human kills are awesomely brutal.
Why it bothers you so much that my brain thinks Tomb Raider reboots when looking at HZ movement, gathering, crafting, leveling..?
The mechanics are a whole lot smoother, and I'd say there's more variety to the actual combat. Range combat is where it's at though, melee combat is sloppy and not very satisfying.
They both have unrewarding leveling systems, Horizon has a boring skill tree ala Shadow of Mordow, while TW3 was ridiculously restrictive for no reason.
From a presentation stand point, TW3 is still on another level. The writing is a bit flat in Horizon, and aside from Ashly Burch (who's excellent as Aloy), the voice work doesn't get any better than okay.
I'd say it's closer to a Ubisoft game than TW3. That's not to say it's bad however, I'm having a ton of fun with it.
Here's the thing though dude, it has been five years since Far Cry 3, those elements (that I've highlighted) have been done already. There's nothing exciting about anything from that list because we've seen it all done before. Horizon doesn't really do anything new or interesting with those mechanics listed.
There's also no reason to use those other options and not to just hide in a bush and head shot all the dudes in a camp.
There's certainly variation in the combat against machines. The same can't be said for the humans.
Equanimity
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I was simply questioning your comparison and thought we were having a fairly reasonable discussion. But, not to worry.
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