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[Kitoro]

Except that we've already had Iwata say numerous times that it won't be a hybrid. Not only did he specifically say that he wasn't looking to make two consoles into one, but he also said that he wants the console & handheld to be separate but "like brothers" & is looking at multiple form factor of one platform (same architecture, same OS, different form factors & power levels). Your confidence is misplaced, & was already shot down.

Whether or not that ends up being true, there's no reason, with today's technology, that the system shouldn't be able to connect to a television wirelessly if a player wants to play on their screen, and being able to sync other NX or Wii Remotes/Pro Controllers for single screen multiplayer would be a fantastic feature.

I'm not saying it will take the place of Nintendo's next home console, but there's no reason not to allow it to function as one if the user wants it to.

 

[Neoxon]

Whether or not that ends up being true, there's no reason, with today's technology, that the system shouldn't be able to connect to a television wirelessly if a player wants to play on their screen, and being able to sync other NX or Wii Remotes/Pro Controllers for single screen multiplayer would be a fantastic feature.

I'm not saying it will take the place of Nintendo's next home console, but there's no reason not to allow it to function as one if the user wants it to.

Which would also be a bit of a strain on the NX Handheld's battery.

 

[xxracerxx]

I fully expect the NX to be both a handheld and console in one. There will be a base station to ply the NX in when wanting to use it like a console then you just remove it for on the go play.

 

[Raide]

A powerful Handheld system with a great screen that docked into a hub so I could play the same games on my TV at home would be perfect. Being able to buy the game and enjoy it on the road and at home without complicated transfer rules or download issues, would be amazing.

I think Nintendo needs to stop splitting their handheld and home system communities so much.

 

[NSESN]

Not gonna happen. Nintendo wants us buying more hardware not less. If you want to play NX games on a tv you'll have to buy an NX console for that.


I agree with this but unlike Vita/TV I don't expect the same chipset in both the console and handheld.

Yes, i expect the TV version with a bit more power with a few exclusives, but most games will run in both versions

 

[Garcia el Gringo]

It's what I expect and want. It's what I immediately assumed when NX was first announced. Kensuke Tanabe's comment about the next hypothetical full-fledged console Metroid Prime being for the NX has been the only comment to give me pause.

If NX is an OS, I expect to see Nintendo release the portable NX before the NX console (unless it's one hybrid device).

Wii U is doing terrible on the market and needs to be refreshed too, but it's a product of late 2012. 3DS is a product of early 2011 - it's long in the tooth for its current level of success and support. 3DS has almost two years on the Wii U, so even with Wii U's situation, I feel 3DS takes refresh priority. And I feel that the transition from 3DS to its successor will be more status quo for Nintendo and consumers - it might be good to get that out to satiate consumers before some unprecedentedly disruptive Nintendo console transition stuff might happen.

Ideally - if Nintendo has the bandwidth - I'd like to see the ninth gen handheld and console release significantly closer to each other than in previous gens.

 

[anothertech]

Expected by many to be honest.

I think it will be a handheld tablet of some sort with a controller dock kind of like nvidias handheld, but will come with Nintendo version of chrome cast so it can stream to a large hd screen when playing.

Not a hybrid, and maybe close to power of WiiU. Games will be service based. Streamed like PS Now, or downloaded from nintendos new network.

Nintendo will start giving a free game per month with subscription to Nintendo direct as well, $50 per year.

 

[maouvin]

Ecstatic.

I need a Vita successor

.

I might actually be interested in Splatoon on a handheld.

This too.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

I fully expect the NX to be both a handheld and console in one. There will be a base station to ply the NX in when wanting to use it like a console then you just remove it for on the go play.

I am expecting something similar as well, a handheld/console hybrid seems most likely

 

[Neoxon]

I am expecting something similar as well, a handheld/console hybrid seems most likely

But we already know that isn't happening.

A powerful Handheld system with a great screen that docked into a hub so I could play the same games on my TV at home would be perfect. Being able to buy the game and enjoy it on the road and at home without complicated transfer rules or download issues, would be amazing.

I think Nintendo needs to stop splitting their handheld and home system communities so much.

It won't really be splitting in the likelihood that the console & handheld share most of their games. Well, it would be technically, but it wouldn't be nearly as bad. If you want Pokémon, get a handheld. If you want the next big Zelda or Xenoblade game, get the console. For everything else, it doesn't matter which one you'll get, you'll get the same game.

 

[Kathian]

Not gonna happen. Nintendo wants us buying more hardware not less. If you want to play NX games on a tv you'll have to buy an NX console for that.

Unless they sell a Wii U style controller separately for a nice price. It'll be a dock to TV charger (I think) with a controller add-on whilst also being able to send wirelessly to the dock too.

They'll still likely have a more capable system but the issue I have with the 'Nintendo Wants' logic is that Nintendo is having to adapt to match the market - a Vita TV will just add complexities.

You need a device that can achieve these aims out the box. Not to mention they will want TV targeted games so best to have it with the system.

 

[Waylon Drums]

There probably won't be any docking. NX will likely be separate pieces of hardware with a shared library.

That definitely sounds more Nintendo than allowing it to be used in both ways.

 

[sörine]

Yes, i expect the TV version with a bit more power with a few exclusives, but most games will run in both versions

For comparison, I'd say going from an iPhone to an iPad will probably give us a pretty good idea of how things scale up.

 

[igor]

A Vita with Wii U specs would be AMAZING. Imagine, proper Zelda and Metroid on the go. And Bayonetta.

One can dream.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

But we already know that isn't happening.

You keep running into every NX thread and claiming this without any solid evidence. We don't know what it is and unless you work for Nintendo and have insider access, you're just talking out of your ass like the rest of us.

 

[Kitoro]

Which would also be a bit of a strain on the NX Handheld's battery.

I'd just keep it plugged in while casting to the TV just like I keep my Wii U Gamepad charging while using it.

 

[Rocky]

But we already know that isn't happening.

No we don't. Nothing is confirmed yet. Iwata said what he would LIKE it to be. Many things can change with stuff like this before anything is officially revealed. Maybe you should curb your expectations, because you're going to look pretty foolish if it is some type of hybrid.

Unless you work for Nintendo's hardware development, you don't know what is happening.

You keep running into every NX thread and claiming this without any solid evidence. We don't know what it is and unless you work for Nintendo and have insider acecess, you're just talking out of your ass like the rest of us.

Pretty much what I just said, lol.

 

[QuackkAttack]

Is this "Vita with Wii U specs" even really plausible? Cost wise, I feel like that would be a very expensive machine.

Vita can barely play PS2 games that are reworked for the system and it's $199.

I understand the Wii U's specs aren't expensive, but jamming them into a tiny form factor means reworking the entire structure.

That's not even mentioning the battery that would be required to power HD graphics and computing.

I'm interested to see what they do, but I'm not sold on this even being plausible.

 

[Neoxon]

You keep running into every NX thread and claiming this without any solid evidence. We don't know what it is and unless you work for Nintendo and have insider acecess, you're just talking out of you ass like the rest of us.

I actually do have evidence, mind you.

Exhibit A: Iwata on the Possibility of a Hybrid

What we mean by integrating platforms is NOT integrating handhelds devices and home consoles to make only one machine. What we are aiming at is to integrate the architecture to form a common basis for software development so that we can make software assets more transferrable, and operating systems and their build-in applications more portable, regardless of form factor or performance of EACH platform.

Exhibit B: Sibling Systems

Nintendo won't face these issues going forward beyond the Wii U and 3DS, Iwata said, because the company's new unified approach will allow consoles and handhelds to become "like brothers in a family of systems."

Exhibit C: Slide From Nintendo's Mobile Game Announcement Shareholders Meeting

What was that about talking out of my ass, again?

 

[120v]

personally... i find myself playing handhelds less and less. i'll bring my 3DS with me on flights but it feels awkward carrying it alongside my phone, so most of the time i'll just play something on my phone like chrono trigger or whatever

that's just me, but for that reason suspect dedicated portables are on their way out. maybe not right away but 5-10 years from now i'd be surprised if there was still much of a market for it outside japan and kids/pre-teens

so as for NX, it'd have to have some sort of functionality with my tv -- i dunno if that categorizes it as THE HYBRID OMG -- for me have any interest in it. i know i'm in the minority but i just don't see where dedicated portables fit into the future, without some major caveats

 

[robotrock]

Again, that has already been shot down. The NX isn't that kind of hybrid.

Whoops! Didn't realize that. Cool cool.

 

[Neoxon]

Whoops! Didn't realize that. Cool cool.

The evidence stating that is a few posts above this one.

 

[Always-honest]

Kinda sad i guess. I want to play games on my projector and tv.
But it's not just a handheld

 

[Vena]

Is this "Vita with Wii U specs" even really plausible? Cost wise, I feel like that would be a very expensive machine.

Vita can barely play PS2 games that are reworked for the system and it's $199.

Vita is in a state of trying to recoup all the money Sony burned on its development, its price-point isn't indicative of what it actually is nowadays.

The Vita's hardware has also depreciated far faster than its price point (like the 3DS). New hardware wouldn't be working off of 2013 hardware constraints, it'd be working off of 2015/2016 fab standards and prices which are vastly different now than they were then, and the price per performance will quickly outpace the Vita's.

 

[Gucci Messiah]

You have zero concrete evidence, just quotes of Iwata saying what he'd like the NX to be and we all know that plans change. You don't know what it is like the rest of us so please stop trying to correct everyone who speculates it will be a hybrid of some sort. It's beyond annoying.

So yes, you are talking out of your ass still. Give me some evidence from the past few months and maybe I won't laugh at your 'proof.'

 

[Rocky]

I actually do have evidence, mind you.

Exhibit A: Iwata on the Possibility of a Hybrid


Exhibit B: Sibling Systems


Exhibit C: Slide From Nintendo's Mobile Game Announcement Shareholders Meeting

What was that about talking out of my ass, again?

That slide is like almost 2 years old. A lot could have changed inside Nintendo's HQ since Iwata has made that speech. I certainly don't recall anything recent said that was like this.

 

[Kathian]

Is this "Vita with Wii U specs" even really plausible? Cost wise, I feel like that would be a very expensive machine.

Vita can barely play PS2 games that are reworked for the system and it's $199.

I understand the Wii U's specs aren't expensive, but jamming them into a tiny form factor means reworking the entire structure.

That's not even mentioning the battery that would be required to power HD graphics and computing.

I'm interested to see what they do, but I'm not sold on this even being plausible.

I think it's plausible; rip out the disk drive and the Wii U itself is not all that big. Big issue is less cost and more heat; its not going to be as powerful as a Wii U.

I suppose like the 3DS the modern GPU (maybe more memory than the Wii U too?) Might let them achieve this but I think the resolution might be a push for 720p though.

 

[Livingskeletons]

Fine with me as long as it has 3DS and possibly DS backwards compatibility.

 

[robotrock]

The evidence stating that is a few posts above this one.

Thanks. I didn't realize we had this much information about it already. Really curious on what it'll end up being.

 

[Neoxon]

You have zero concrete evidence, just quotes of Iwata saying what he'd like the NX to be and we all know that plans change. You don't know what it is like the rest of us so please stop trying to correct everyone who speculates it will be a hybrid of some sort. It's beyond annoying.

The slide was the most recent piece of information, which came from (as stated earlier) the shareholders conference where Iwata revealed Nintendo's mobile game plans. By they they confirmed that they have Codename NX in development, & then showed this slide. It'd be a bit late for such plans to change, plus a hybrid would contradict everything they've said up to this point.

 

[Auto-Reply]

It sounds plausible that they could go that route, I would hate it though as I never play games when I'm not home, so I would use a handheld device at home which would be a waste and would feel like a step back from the WiiU.

 

[Kathian]

The slide was the most recent piece of information, which came from (as stated earlier) the shareholders conference where Iwata revealed Nintendo's mobile game plans. By they they confirmed that they have Codename NX in development, & then showed this slide. It'd be a bit late for such plans to change, plus a hybrid would contradict everything they've said up to this point.

Tbf the people suggesting a hybrid are not saying its a Wii U replacement; just the handheld will work with a TV in some form.

 

[Exterminieren]

No we don't. Nothing is confirmed yet. Iwata said what he would LIKE it to be.

He has recently said that it won't be a hybrid, for the simple and logical reason that they don't want to cut off one of their major lines of revenue. Hell, he's even said that they want to expand their product range, not reduce it.

 

[Meffer]

I love handhelds so I would be all for it.

 

[DSix]

Pass. I would just wait till the next home console.

 

[pswii60]

I know I'll buy it, but honestly, I prefer gaming on Wii U/PS4/Xbox One at home and my iPhone everywhere else since I always have my phone with me. The days of me carrying around a flip phone and a gaming device for entertainment are pretty much gone, I don't even take my handhelds with me on vacation anymore.

This, although I don't play games on my iPhone, only at home on console. If I didn't drive for my commute I could imagine playing games on my iPhone a little more perhaps, but I still would never carry a separate portable device. Need a Nintendo Phone then all is solved eh

 

[Neoxon]

That slide is like almost 2 years old. A lot could have changed inside Nintendo's HQ since Iwata has made that speech. I certainly don't recall anything recent said that was like this.

If I recall correctly, that slide came from the same meeting that showed their mobile games initiative, which was early this year. It was there where they also spoke of DeNA helping Nintendo better connect their systems' online infrastructures (hence the slide).

 

[Gucci Messiah]

The slide was the most recent piece of information, which came from (as stated earlier) the shareholders conference where Iwata revealed Nintendo's mobile game plans. By they they confirmed that they have Codename NX in development, & then showed this slide. It'd be a bit late for such plans to change, plus a hybrid would contradict everything they've said up to this point.

That slide is from January 2013, get something more recent otherwise there's no reason to take your word as fact. You're speculating like the rest of us and have no definitive answers - aka talking out of your butt.

 

[xxracerxx]

I actually do have evidence, mind you.

Exhibit A: Iwata on the Possibility of a Hybrid


Exhibit B: Sibling Systems


Exhibit C: Slide From Nintendo's Mobile Game Announcement Shareholders Meeting

What was that about talking out of my ass, again?

Well Exhibit B kind of helps everyone's point of a hybrid system.

Also, of course that slide will not just show what their future plan is, of course they will show the traditional structure of handheld v console when talking about Nintendo IDs. They won't give away their strategy for the NX unit in a shareholders meeting.

 

[Cheeseman Battitude]

I wouldn't mind it being a handheld, but this time it should look a bit more hi-tech. The DSi was quite sleek and also the original 3DS. But as much as I love my New 3DS XL and playing Xenoblade on it, I would prefer something a bit nicer to look at.

 

[Alric]

HD handheld that could hook up to a TV so I can play whatever new Monster Hunter there would be perfect with me.

 

[ArkhamFantasy]

Dont really see the point of another handheld tbh. It's either going to steal games that the console desperately needs, or share the same library and gimp every single game that the console gets.

 

[Terrell]

Oh goodie, more hybrid talk. How much clearer does "that's not what we have in mind for now but could be in the future if that is what the market wants" need to be?

It's a family of devices, not just one. And a handheld will be one of them.

Seriously, what's next, a thread asking how we would feel about NX being a toaster strudel?

Dont really see the point of another handheld tbh. It's either going to steal games that the console desperately needs, or share the same library and gimp every single game that the console gets.

Oh? Care to tell us something about that?

 

[Neoxon]

Dont really see the point of another handheld tbh. It's either going to steal games that the console desperately needs, or share the same library and gimp every single game that the console gets.

To be fair, the handheld is already starting to gimp the console's games (see the Ice Climbers getting screwed out of Smash 4 because of the 3DS version).

Oh goodie, more hybrid talk. How much clearer does "that's not what we have in mind for now but could be in the future if that is what the market wants" need to be?

It's a family of devices, not just one. And a handheld will be one of them.

Seriously, what's next, a thread asking how we would feel about NX being a toaster strudel?

This

 

[Exterminieren]

I have no idea why people actually think Nintendo would want a hybrid. What the hell would be in it for them to cut one of their big pillars of revenue for something which might not even be technologically feasible?

 

[DragonGirl]

I'd love a handheld that allowed me to stream the game to a TV like a Chromecast. Maybe in a way where it would communicate with a sister console to allow such functionality.

 

[Strangelove77]

Well, the Wii U was basically just a giant DS. The tablet was used just as well as the second screen was used for the DS/3DS - tired gimmicks and menus. For every The World Ends With You and Ghost Trick, there were about 100 DS games that did shit with the second screen. And that continued into the 3DS.

Just have an hdmi input in the next handheld and call it a day.

 

[boyshine]

I hope NX is a powerful home console with a traditional controller, that also supports the Wii U GamePad, which is rebranded and redesigned as GamePad Pro (better screen, analog triggers and high-cap battery) and sold separately including a digital bundle with Super Mario Maker+.

Their creative approach should be in the game distribution system. No disc drive, instead digital downloads bought through eShop OR activated through retail editions with special Amiibo items. This even allows for resale of digital games, as you can unlock your Amiibo from your account, which deletes your game, allowing the Amiibo to be scanned again on another account. Sell your Amiibo = Sell your game. While installed a game can be quick-started by touching the Amiibo to the controller, even if the console is in stand-by.

I know GAF wouldn't approve of this, but that only makes me believe in it even more.

 

[8bit]

Originally thought it was going to be a handheld that connected to your TV when you're home to create a second screen experience with a Chromecasty Dongley thing. Not convinced otherwise yet.

 

[totowhoa]

If you could hook it up to a tv then ok. I prefer tv / monitor over handhelds all the time. I don't "game on the go"