artsi
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Well, I don't think it's totally insignificant. If HTC bails out for some reason Valve needs to start negotiating with other companies, and developing a new product might take a long time.
HTC Vive Launch Thread -- Computer, activate holodeck
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Well, I don't think it's totally insignificant. If HTC bails out for some reason Valve needs to start negotiating with other companies, and developing a new product might take a long time.
There is nothing stopping chinese companies from outright cloning the vive. In fact, I expect them to start doing that soon enough, perhaps with cheaper parts. Valve has been 100% open with their lighthouse tech. They want it to proliferate and become a standard for tracking. We actually should be rooting for such a knock-off market to formulate. If VR really is going to catch on, then that type of clone is inevitable.
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Are LG going to repair my Vive if it breaks?
Dreams-Visions
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you can always cancel if you change your mind.
Is that a quote from HTC support?
heh
The reddit EU map ain't helping
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1939995#
#ItalyToo
FWIW, you shouldn't expect your headset to be viable beyond a couple of years anyways. Once foveated rendering gets here, all the current headsets will be obsolete.
HTC is supposedly trying to pivot towards being a VR company first, not a cell phone company. They're betting their entire company on the Vive. I would think that the shots of HTC totally and completely shutting down within 2 years aren't really too high.
Regardless, I actually expect Valve to announce new headset partners at the next CES. Valve doesn't just want one headset out there to their spec, they want lots of them.
artsi
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Of course, I'm just talking about a scenario where Valve wants to have a high quality, officially supported HMD like Vive is now. It's just a risk for them as a business, but not a huge one as they always have Steam.
There's no question that OpenVR / SteamVR as a platform will have plenty of legs.
There was one delivered in my hometown. I need to Ninja-findout who that is, heh.
Nah, sticking with it.
Hope my vive or rift gets here before then
Super Rookie
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That map is insane, all the money HTC is refusing to accept!
Looking for that error, it seems to be very common with e-commerce. And I think your order didn't go through.
Wildstar75
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Tracking shows my Vive just arrived in my state. Delivery still scheduled for today 
runningjoke
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My Vive is just stilling there in a DHL depot collecting dust. It's just a half hour drive, let me pick it up instead of waiting until Friday 
My Vive is just stilling there in a DHL depot collecting dust. It's just a half hour drive, let me pick it up instead of waiting until Friday
I know it's bullshit that fedex won't let me go pick up a package at 3:30 am. It's just down the road.
I F5ed and then it worked, also confirmed submitted.
Now to time travel forward to June...
innervision961
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I sometimes wonder is Abrash regrets his decision to move over to Oculus. It left such a nasty taste in my mouth whenever Oculus sold out to facebook and quickly scalped talent, especially from Valve who had been sharing tech and knowledge ACUTALLY TRYING to live up to the Oculus kickstarter promise of VR, open VR regardless of shareholders and profit margins. It instantly turned me off of Oculus and I couldn't be happier that I went with the Vive.
I don't think he regrets the move. He gets to team up with Carmack again and basically got to put together a research team at a company dedicated to his passion with unlimited funds.
Yeah, we're still at a very early stage right now.
I think Carmack's focus on mobile will be their long-term winner. Combined with a bottomless R&D fund, they'll be first to market with an all-in-one device that doesn't need tethering or base stations. That's the VR device that will truly go mainstream.
I think Carmack's focus on mobile will be their long-term winner. Combined with a bottomless R&D fund, they'll be first to market with an all-in-one device that doesn't need tethering or base stations. That's the VR device that will truly go mainstream.
bltn
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Oh, looking good. Going to have to figure out a way to contribute to this project once I get my Vive.
I don't know if they'll be first to market for an all-in-one system. Nvidia has been working on one since 2014. I expect Nvidia to announce the first all-in-one VR headset, probably this year or early next year.
What carmack and nvidia are working on will lead to what will eventually be the first consumer-feasible AR headsets (no, hololens doesn't count) in the future.
I think the PC VR market will naturally converge one way or another because it's too small to have this split.
I guess so, plus there is always the community when it comes to porting/modding so it's only getting better I think.
How far we've come - article on VR from 1989: http://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/10/b...l-reality-wear-a-computer.html?pagewanted=all
estimated cost? $200,000
estimated cost? $200,000
A lot of the work in the Vive headset (and the Rift really) is Abrash's work. Abrash and Carmack are both leaders in the field - the fruits of their labour take years to filter down (but because it's been years, it already has).
I expect that Oculus will recover from the tepid launch (especially relative to Vive) and will help to lead from the front in terms of tech in a generation or two (especially with things like eye tracking, gesture/hand tracking, face tracking integration, full body motion camera, etc).
That's the kind of tech that we already know they (Oculus as a whole) are working on... just it's hard work, so it'll take a while for them to release it to public (or even just get it to the point where they're confident to announce).
Heh great gif.
Don't worry, even if it is available you're not getting one.
What if I ordered a week ago and it still says April?
Do they have the timestamp of my original order, or the order they made by remotely logging in to my PC to make? Hopefully the first one. Although if that arrives on time they'll need a time machine as I was hoping for it already
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They could just use, I dunno, the order number to at least send it out to the ones who were in the initial batch and for whom the cc checked out.
My shipping e-mail came from DHL, so HTC e-mails might not be that exciting.
It doesn't do what, for me and many others, is the defining trait of Augmented reality - it doesn't occlude computer generated objects around reality. By which I mean it needs a method of derviving not only the geometry but also spacial mappings surrounding the headset quick enough and reliably enough, and be able to derive it's position in the room, to make objects appear to pass behind real life objects in front of them.
Hololens doesn't do this yet. It can detect surfaces and make it's projections look like they appear on those surfaces, but if anything passes in front of them the illusion is broken. It's not mapping the environment, nor is it discerning it's position in the environment. This, to me, puts hololens in the realm of Heads Up Displays, which are a precursor to AR (along with VR).
Ultimately, the companies which will likely get us environment tracking that is fast and accurate enough for AR use will likely either be google or microsoft, as they've invested heavily in R&D projects designed to do that. But neither Google Glass nor Hololens are what I'd consider AR yet. They're just very forward thinking HUDs.
You can already see the sectors of computing that will need to converge to make AR a thing. We'll need environment tracking to get great, we'll need Oculus and Valve to continue solving the logistical problems associated with Virtual application design, and we'll need Nvidia, Apple, and Oculus/Carmack working to make mobile computing viable for powering this hardware in a small enough form factor to be self contained.
That's why people following VR and AR agree that AR is still over a decade off. Too much needs to happen before it becomes really viable, but the seeds are already being planted.
They are not prioritizing Paypal.
I ordered with Paypal and haven't heard a peep
There is still something wrong with CC orders, especially in Europe, quick look over Twitter or Reddit is enough to see it
Also Dan answered me yesterday telling that he'd get back to me with new info, obviously still nothing as of today
It's 5:41 AM EDT. I wouldn't expect any tweets from him too soon.
Yeah but i'm not optimistic
He's also asking for Order N when i don't think it's really safe to do so on Twitter since you can actually ask to cancel your order with that info only through this page
https://shop.eu.htc.com/DRHM/store?...tcemea&Locale=en_IE&ThemeID=39873600&Env=BASE
not even the email is required :|
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