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L Thammy

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OP, I'd like to recommend Princess Maker 2. It seems like the sort of happy, innocent anime girl RPG that HolyBaikal would have enjoyed. Bear in mind that it's a fatherhood simulator, though, so you're not really supposed to lust after the anime girl.

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Okay, you can't just leave me with this. Why does she need the banana to be in that bottle?
 

Zyrox

Member
I read the whole thread (including OP obviously, yes, I had a bit of time on my hands).
First off, OP, it's nice that you were able to broaden your horizon and came to understand something you previously were confused/appalled by.
We should all aim to understand one another and not mock other viewpoints and preferences as long as those are not hurtful to others.
So, thumbs up for that. Also, Persona 3 is one of my all time favorite games, so it's cool that you had an amazing time with it.
Now, as for some of your questions:
I only played Persona 2: Innocent Sin and a little of Persona 2: Eternal Punishment when it comes to the older Personas, but let me tell you that they are vastly different than P3 and P4. There is no day to day management aspect, so they're quite focused on dungeons (whose design I did not find particularily great). Couple that with a high encounter rate and it can get quite annoying. I think mechanically, these games are really clunky. I personally didn't care much for the cast or the story either, but many people actually like these games casts so if you can put up with the gameplay for the characters, then go for it. I say the games are definitely worth a try. Just don't expect something akin to P3 just because it says "Persona" on the box.

As for P4/Golden, Golden added a lot of things, some smaller like additional costumes, and some bigger like additional scenarios and a redone fusion system.
I haven't played P4 Vanilla personally myself,but watched a let's play of it and it is definitely worth playing if you don't have access to a Vita. Persona 4's great qualities, like the characters, the addictive gameplay loop and the engaging SLinks are all present in the Vanilla version, so P4 PS2 is still a perfectly fine choice.

As for other SMT games, I personally have played Nocturne, DDS1 and DDS2. They are great games, but tonally very different from Persona. No social link aspect or anything, more focus on gameplay with elaborate dungeons. Combat in Nocturne and DDS1/2 is similar to Persona, but with a few changes that make it more engaging and challenging. The atmosphere of these games is also the exact opposite of cute. It's a tense, oppressing atmosphere. you get thrown into a world that's fucked before you can even do anything about it and now have to find a way to survive in that hostile world. Nocturne is very gameplay centered and the story bits are few and far in between, but what's there is intruiging. DDS on the other hand puts quite a lot of focus on its story, with lots of cutscenes and dialogue.
You have to see if those are for you. Definitely great games, had a lot of fun with them.
 

PKrockin

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Shit, I can tell you how it went.

Baikal argues women have the potential to be just as strong as men, cites no evidence.
Me and others state this is patently false/ridiculous. Some present evidence. I just get madder.
Baikal ignores all evidence and basically says 'fuck, I don't know, Ranma 1/2!'
My brain explodes
The end.
That is absolutely ridiculous, and just the kind of thing she would say.
 
And just saying .?. ar tonelico is an AMAZING game. Excellent soundtrack and ok battle system. The 2nd game is the Best of the series ( best soundtrack , best Waifus ( mir da best ) , best ending and best hymnos)

Just don't start with tonelico Qoga.
 

Arcadius

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I can definitely sympathize with you. I never wrote anything off because it was "anime", but i never understood the mentality and why people could like anything anime based. Persona 3 changed that for me too, i can understand that mentality so much better now. It did change alot of things in my own life too, so Persona 3 means alot to me, but in different ways than yours. Glad to see you were able to come to an understanding.

The Answer is basically a straight dungeon crawl, with story in certain sections. Not at all like The Journey in Persona 3. Depends if you liked P3's gameplay enough to play it, but i legitimately enjoyed the story.

Thanks for this post, love your avatar. I will play through The Answer as I enjoyed everything about Persona 3, even the dungeon crawling (first game with it I played). I guess my posts are a bit hard to comprehend, that's a fault of my own. I didn't write anything and everything "anime" off. I've played Tales of Games which are pretty anime, I guess Persona was just too different for me. Persona 3 really did help me a lot, as did someone else.

I'm glad that you sympathized with me.
 

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Shit, I can tell you how it went.

Baikal argues women have the potential to be just as strong as men, cites no evidence.
Me and others state this is patently false/ridiculous. Some present evidence. I just get madder.
Baikal ignores all evidence and basically says 'fuck, I don't know, Ranma 1/2!'
My brain explodes
The end.
Oh my god, I just googled Ranma. I laughed as soon as I saw the pictures in the sidebar.
 

Arcadius

Banned
And just saying .?. ar tonelico is an AMAZING game. Excellent soundtrack and ok battle system. The 2nd game is the Best of the series ( best soundtrack , best Waifus ( mir da best ) , best ending and best hymnos)

Just don't start with tonelico Qoga.

Isn't Qoga the 3rd in the series? I keep hearing the 2nd is the best, can't wait to play it. I really did like Ar Tonelico. I could have written just as much about it as I did for Persona 3. You're write on the music front, I really loved it. The Hymns were top notch, loved the vocal works.
 

sensui-tomo

Member
Shit, I can tell you how it went.

Baikal argues women have the potential to be just as strong as men, cites no evidence.
Me and others state this is patently false/ridiculous. Some present evidence. I just get madder.
Baikal ignores all evidence and basically says 'fuck, I don't know, Ranma 1/2!'
My brain explodes
The end.

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I wouldnt believe that answer from anyone but holy.
 
ITT HolyBaikal hatches a daring plan to break into the house of a GAF member who had wronged her in the past and write a massive soliloquy in which she expounds the virtues of.... herself! DUN DUN DUNNNN

But really, I don't think she's ever getting unbanned. But glad you enjoyed the game and had a growing moment from all this.
 

Anura

Member
I think she was pretty fun poster. I may not have agreed with much of what she said, but I can't hate that enthusiasm.
 

Arcadius

Banned
I'd just like to mention, the poster that created the "dramatic reading" of my post, I just finished it all, thanks for reading my post. I should have revised, did some more proof reading before posting, but in the end, glad with how it came out.

Thanks for reading it out.
 
Isn't Qoga the 3rd in the series? I keep hearing the 2nd is the best, can't wait to play it. I really did like Ar Tonelico. I could have written just as much about it as I did for Persona 3. You're write on the music front, I really loved it. The Hymns were top notch, loved the vocal works.

Qoga is the third , but is only worth playing after you're done with the first 2.
It's sad , but Qoga only appeal is :
-Seeing the story end.
-The hymnos
-The potential waifus.

The game is just destroyed by a very bad level design and a very unintresting battle system.
I know about it since i've plat that game without cheating , meaning that i've finished that game 11 times across 100h52m.
And i only did that because i'm a hardcore tonelico fan.

But yeah , do play the 2nd game...If you've got the true ending of the first game you're in for a ride that you won't forget.
 

P44

Member
Holy Baikal
You've been down too long in the waifu scene
Oh what's becoming of me

Ride the pillow
You can see the spots but you know she's clean
Oh don't you see what I mean

Gotta get away
Holy Baikal

--Dio "Holy Baikal"

Doing Dio's work son.

Also if anybody read the tl;dr, backtrack and read the posts. Next level what the fuck.
 

cajunator

Banned
I'd just like to mention, the poster that created the "dramatic reading" of my post, I just finished it all, thanks for reading my post. I should have revised, did some more proof reading before posting, but in the end, glad with how it came out.

Thanks for reading it out.

I dont think you are creepy. You wrote that with heartfelt emotion. Its a good thing. Keep your head up dude!
*gives you a penguin :)
 

Arcadius

Banned
Qoga is the third , but is only worth playing after you're done with the first 2.
It's sad , but Qoga only appeal is :
-Seeing the story end.
-The hymnos
-The potential waifus.

The game is just destroyed by a very bad level design and a very unintresting battle system.
I know about it since i've plat that game without cheating , meaning that i've finished that game 11 times across 100h52m.
And i only did that because i'm a hardcore tonelico fan.

But yeah , do play the 2nd game...If you've got the true ending of the first game you're in for a ride that you won't forget.

Wow 100 hours. I played the first twice to get everything unlocked and stuff, so I believe I obtained the true ending, although I'm not sure now.
You can save Mir in the end, right?
I will definitely play the 2nd though, it's sitting around me somewhere.

I dont think you are creepy. You wrote that with heartfelt emotion. Its a good thing. Keep your head up dude!
*gives you a penguin :)

Thanks for this, penguins are pretty amazing. I like to visit the Vita thread, because of the penguins sometimes, hahah. My head will stay up, I'm proud of what I wrote and what I posted.
 

Sirim

Member
I respect OP and his passionate post. If only we all cared so much about something.

I get where you're coming from OP and I often get this way about things I feel guilty about that build over time. I understand how vulnerable it must be to put it out there only to see GAF react this way.
 
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