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I don’t like female protagonists.
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PeteBull
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Balducci30
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Those graphics are actually pretty awesome?It's OK.
I will just drop this here.... from my last playing session at 3am this morning.
Eve says hi
To anyone thinking it's just boobs. This game got fantastic combat and exploration. The world is very well done and lore is great.
I would say - if there was not a single boob in this game, it would be just as good.
It's a proper scifi game
MikeM
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
yeah that's what I've been saying all this time and getting ignored
Everyone just thinks it's an anime game or something
Balducci30
Member
I’ll admit I thought that - I’m actually intrigued after seeing more of it. Never really payed much attention to the gameyeah that's what I've been saying all this time and getting ignored
Everyone just thinks it's an anime game or something
sono
Gold Member
Why make exceptions how do your exceptions work in your mind
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Some levels are open, some levels are more linear. It's a mix.
Combat plays kinda like souls game mixed with like god of war 3.
And when you sit on a chair, enemies respawn.
I think it's an excellent game
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clarky
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Sport says otherwise. A woman cant beat a dude at anything other than deception.
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Putonahappyface
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N30RYU
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There are times, and im talking here especially about modern day western games, u really dont wanna relate to female protag, like at all:
On the other hand, as a man u are exposed to this in western game:
In this cases if it was a man being fucked by another man would you have been ok? Or is just a problem with the script or just bad writing... not them being a woman?
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
Jill Valentine is a woman written as a woman. She isn’t riddled with male aspects and fits into the overall story. She doesn’t have brutal takedown moves like Chris Redfield.
She’s just a woman trying to survive in a post-apocalyptic world. If they brought in a bunch of feminine issues I wouldn’t like it though.
So while it’s not my preference it’s acceptable. I can appreciate it from an artistic perspective.
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
The only thing that matters is how does the narrative meet the gameplay and in that respect it doesn’t matter who or what the main characters gender is. Bayonetta isn’t better or worse than say Dante or Ryu Hyabusa in an action game simply because she is female.
There are so many genres that make this point irrelevant. Like does it matter in Smash or Street Fighter if your main matches your gender? Racing games? Metroid? I get if you want to be fully immersed to a degree but it sounds strange to me but what the hell does The Grand Nagoya know about females?
There are so many genres that make this point irrelevant. Like does it matter in Smash or Street Fighter if your main matches your gender? Racing games? Metroid? I get if you want to be fully immersed to a degree but it sounds strange to me but what the hell does The Grand Nagoya know about females?
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MikeM
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I’m comparing to average, real world males. Probably helps that my gym is full of public safety workers (i.e. police, fire, military).
PeteBull
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Personally, as a straight male, i wanna play(prefer it simply
as a man, and if any fucking or even kissing/romance is involved in the story, conventionally attractive(6/10 so above avg is plenty, doesnt have to be crazy hot babe status;p) woman (robot looking like a woman is perfectly fine too ;p) has to be on the other side, no masculine bitch on peds, no 50yo martha kent lookalike, no 2m tall cow with horns, no blasian baldie either.Ofc im sure plenty ppl dont have problem with any of that, and good for them, let them enjoy it fully, who am i to judge, u asked about my personal preferences here after all
Preference to play as a man here is so strong, that witcher4, with ciri as protagonist, will have to have really amazing story and gameplay(improvements to combat are utmost welcome too ofc), to convince me to buy it at launch, not saying its impossible, coz again- played many amazing games with female protags, but quality has to be top notch there, not ur avg solid 7-8/10 game but 9/10 and higher, and i mean actual quality, not inflated by modern reviewers 9/10 scores where they give brownie points for DEI to mid or below avg games
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Some of my favourite games have great, strong, brave females as leads/playable chars:
- Bayonetta1, 2, 3, DMC4:SE, Nier:A, FFXII, Beyond, Heavy Rain, Parasite Eve, SH3, RE2, 3, Street Fighter, Metroid, Mushihimesama, Donkey Kong etc etc.
Thank Daffy i'm not a misogynistic fuck, or else i'd have skipped these masterpieces and many others.
PeteBull
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Im a misogynistic fuck(at least in the eyes of ppl who use those words in a serious way, aka leftists clowns and feminists ;p), yet i enjoyed many of the games with female protags, including some(not all, but many;p) u named
marjo
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What an idiotic statement. I guarantee you a top pro female athlete, like Serena Williams, would wipe the floor against 95% of amatures out there in a Tennis match , regardless of whether they have a ballsack or not.
The Cockatrice
I'm retarded?
Nobody likes those, especially women.
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
Strawman argument and wrong.
Here’s Serena Williams discussing men vs women here:
Women can’t touch men when it comes to physical activity and it’s not even close.
Calverz
Gold Member
I honestly loved playing as Lara Croft as an 11 year old and then later as Joanna Dark.
They kicked ass. Now female characters feel like plants tbh. Or have all these RL problems to deal with. I could not give a shit! Lara Croft has been ruined. Joanna Dark may be next but we’ll see….
They kicked ass. Now female characters feel like plants tbh. Or have all these RL problems to deal with. I could not give a shit! Lara Croft has been ruined. Joanna Dark may be next but we’ll see….
Gamer_By_Proxy
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For a dude that can’t relate to women, you really sound like it’s your time of the month. Ha!
When given a chance, I almost always play as a hot Asian chick due to my yellow fever. But sometimes play as a guy. Depends on the game.
When given a chance, I almost always play as a hot Asian chick due to my yellow fever. But sometimes play as a guy. Depends on the game.
DoubleClutch
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Here are the top female soccer players in the world getting decimated 12-0 by tier 2 over the hill old men.
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StreetsofBeige
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Diablo II. Bowazon and Valkyrie combo were awesome!
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
“Let me stand up for women by associating you with degrading insults about them”.
marjo
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She's talking about professionals. Do you actually think she couldn't beat an average male? You think you've got a chance against her? What a joke!
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
I bet a recreational male tennis player who’s good at the game could beat her in a match.
If you’re talking about an average male player who’s never picked up a tennis racket, that’s a strawman argument.
It’s not that women can’t be talented, they can just never be as physically powerful and dominant as men all things equal.
marjo
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Another wrong and idiotic post
https://www.thejournal.ie/wrexham-soccer-us-womens-team-tst-the-soccer-tournament-6115125-Jul2023/
Let me guess, you get all your news from places like Breitbart.
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marjo
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No one is saying that a pro woman can beat a pro man. That's not the point. If you were to plot the athletic abilities of women vs men, you would get a pair of overlapping bell curves. The degree in which they overlap is dependant on the activity. But for many things (such as Tennis), it's fairly significant.
StreetsofBeige
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Canada's women's hockey nation team would play exhibition games against 15 year old boys in some no name league in the prairies. No contact rules too. High school kids would beat them. I cant find it but there was a women's team that played in a league so they played 20+ games. Probably due to scheduling they didnt play the same number of games as the other teams, but they played a lot. I think they won 5 games in 20 and were one of the worst teams in the league. But I remember they werent the worst. But one of the worst.
Another article I read played way back was no contact and the men's amateur team played shorthanded a player all game. The men's team either won or it was a draw. I've never ever heard in life any hockey game where one team is purposely gimped a man down all game. lol
Here's a laughable article from 2022. Got destroyed by Junior A players. That's pretty much high school kids who tap out not making it higher leagues to get drafted by the NHL.
Canadian women's hockey team battle-tested for Beijing by men's Junior A teams - TSN.ca
The Canadian women's hockey team was pushed out of its comfort zone in pre-Olympic preparation. The players didn't always like it.
www.tsn.ca
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DoubleClutch
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So those are not the best female players in the world? Should I have said one of the best?
Your argument is akin to saying, a woman could beat a man in a fight if you break his legs, blindfold him, and give her an AK-47.
Because if you want to compare like for like then compare the top female athlete against the top male athlete.
Show me any woman in the history of humanity who could beat Mike Tyson in his prime.
DoubleClutch
Gold Member
Canada's women's hockey nation team would play exhibition games against 15 year old boys in some no name league in the prairies. No contact rules too. High school kids would beat them. I cant find it but there was a women's team that played in a league so they played 20+ games. Probably due to scheduling they didnt play the same number of games as the other teams, but they played a lot. I think they won 5 games in 20 and were one of the worst teams in the league. But I remember they werent the worst. But one of the worst.
Another article I read played way back was no contact and the men's amateur team played shorthanded a player all game. The men's team either won or it was a draw. I've never ever heard in life any hockey game where one team is purposely gimped a man down all game. lol
Here's a laughable article from 2022. Got destroyed by Junior A players. That's pretty much high school kids who tap out not making it higher leagues to get drafted by the NHL.
Canadian women's hockey team battle-tested for Beijing by men's Junior A teams - TSN.ca
The Canadian women's hockey team was pushed out of its comfort zone in pre-Olympic preparation. The players didn't always like it.
Yup, well said, I remember this too. People honestly have no idea how much of a gap there is. I could take a team of the worst triple AAA 16 year old boys, assemble a team of them, and have it easily beat the best women in the world.
Moriarty1889
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Have no problem with female protagonists as long as they aren’t designed for ‘Modern Audiences’.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
In hockey, women's skaters will always get destroyed. And that even excludes hitting which would make it an even bigger massacre.
BUT, assuming she has some height a female goaltender I think can do decent. Or at least have a chance. In my bro's beer league hockey he does, one time they had to find a goalie and somehow (I forget how) a female goalie from a university team sub in. He said they all agreed she was the best goalie they've ever had and I think they won 2-1.
PeteBull
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None would be even able to beat current manny pacquiao , and he is 5'5tall, in his 40s
Even in a sport that has 0 contact, requires 0 physical strenght and muscular endurance, but mental endurance alone is required (for both a match and to train it, especially to pr0/world class lvl), like chess, we got:
Top1 female player
GM Hou Yifan 2633
The Top Chess Players in the World
Learn about the top chess players of today and the past. Read player profiles including bios, best games, photos and their most important moments.
www.chess.com
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Kamina
Golden Boy
I kinda agree. In games where i have a choice I usually play a guy.
For example in Souls games: I‘ve tried several Female characters in Elden Ring, but I always end up playing a dude. Female animations in suits of plate armor just look off…
I did play female Elves in Elder Scrolls games though, as Archers or Mages.
For example in Souls games: I‘ve tried several Female characters in Elden Ring, but I always end up playing a dude. Female animations in suits of plate armor just look off…
I did play female Elves in Elder Scrolls games though, as Archers or Mages.
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marjo
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Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you really that thick? Not once did I say, or even imply, that a professional woman can beat a professional male. I said a professional female athlete will usually beat an average male. And nothing you or anyone else has pointed to disproves that at all.
BTW, you never answered my question. Do you think you could take Williams in a Tennis match?
Mister Wolf
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DoubleClutch
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I, who have never picked up a tennis racket in my life would almost certainly lose in a tennis match to one of the greatest female players of all time.
However, I’m 100% confident though I would whoop her ass in a boxing or wrestling contest however.
Zathalus
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Team sports are an odd way to compare physical male advantages over woman as you are comparing way more then just physical stats, the entire competition and professional scene can vary widely between genders. Use actual Olympic records instead, while males still have that advantage it is not nearly as lopsided as some team sports would lead you to believe, with woman actually have close records in activities that require stamina and speed. Strength still heavily favours men of course. This is the cream of the crop though, for the average non-professional man and woman the differences between the sexes are usually greater.
That being said, I’m not exactly sure what it’s got to do with most video games. Punching a boulder in Resident Evil is silly for anybody supposed to be a regular human, be it male or female. When it comes to more fantastical elements it really doesn’t matter does it? Do you think it makes any difference to Bayonetta how much men can lift at the gym?
That being said, I’m not exactly sure what it’s got to do with most video games. Punching a boulder in Resident Evil is silly for anybody supposed to be a regular human, be it male or female. When it comes to more fantastical elements it really doesn’t matter does it? Do you think it makes any difference to Bayonetta how much men can lift at the gym?
DoubleClutch
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Here’s a rapper casually breaking the women’s Olympic powerlifting record. He identified as a woman when he did this so don’t judge, bigot.
Zathalus
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What’s that got to do with anything I said?
DoubleClutch
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You said use Olympic records since they’re not lopsided as much.
Zathalus
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vagabond-
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