I don't understand the dislike towards the Xbox consoles

Arsic said:
*shrug* I'd just play them on PC now.

If I wanted to play demons souls remake I can only do that on ps5, or something like Wolverine or Saros next year.

Xbox series X is the only generation of Xbox I skipped.

If they just had exclusives to their console for a year or two before coming to PC I would've absolutely got a Xbox, but my Xbox at this point is my PC.
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Not mad at that. Now that I got a PC, same applies for PS5.
 
cinnamonandgravy said:
most unreliable consoles ive owned
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Aside from the first batch of Xbox 360s, Xbox hardware in general is more reliable than PlayStation and the Series X is a masterpiece of hardware design and reliability, no coil whine, quieter fans, better performance, smaller size, and a cleaner look in comparison the PS5's design is kind of a joke and its reliability is questionable at best, overheating has been a common issue and some consoles even got bricked because of liquid metal leaking onto the motherboard If you place the console in a vertical position

cinnamonandgravy said:
noisiest and most unreliable controllers ive owned (love x360 though)
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Out of the three PS5, Series X/S and Switch, Xbox controllers have fewer problems in general
 
It's not about the hardware. The hardware is fine. It's about Microsoft and the way they have handled Xbox over the past several generations.

If you're new to gaming, it will seem strange, because you are just looking at the hardware itself but not taking in the broader context. If you've been around a couple generations, it will be no mystery.
 
Agreed.

I stand with M m14

This calls for an investigation.

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Ainem Enamas said:
I have Series X and this year I have completed many games. Even yesterday I finished Arkham Knight. Why the dislike towards Xbox, I don't get it. It has access to so many games, and have the features that enhances the experience - like Quick Resume. Why it's not simply seen as a hardware where you play games?
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Well, if you can play Arkham Knight, maybe I should go shell out $800 for it.
 
it is not that people here dislike Xbox its that they would sell all their children to get a ps6 a week ahead of anyone else.
 
I am not really in the loop as I bought my Series S mainly as a retro console. So many titles have been rendered inaccessible due to junk console build quality of past generations and emulation has not fully bridged the gap. I played Soul Calibur HD and Dead or Alive 3 and Ninja Gaiden Black yesterday and am thankful that I had the option. I play that kind of stuff as much as I play modern releases on PC. Had some fun with Hi-Fi Rush the day prior and I am even considering checking out Keeper which releases tomorrow. Mostly looking forward to new Fable when it releases next year. GamePass was a nice bonus feature when it was reasonably priced. Discovered a number of cool games I would have been completely oblivious of otherwise.

Nigel said:
Since 2013 they've struggled to produce good games of any note, and frequent mishandling of their in house developers to the point that 5 year delays, cancellations and buggy messes is a guarantee for an Xbox product. The hardware is great, but they haven't produced a particularly great game in like 12 years.
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Forza Horizon is the biggest racing franchise currently and they keep churning out good ones.
 
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There was a time when there was an equilibrium where the only thing that divides us was which games you could play, either you were on Sony side or Nintendo side but thats about it. Then Microsoft entered and brought up the "corporate" mindset to gaming and with that:
  • Paying for playing multiplayer.
  • Subscription models.
  • DLCs and microtransactions.
  • Paid third party exclusive deals.
  • Paid early access to new games.
  • Always On Console.
  • Camera and microphone live recording.
  • TV and Ads to console.
  • Doritos mentality.
And so many other things. This is because Microsoft didn't come here for the fun, they came for the money. You can sense this on how they talk (corporate) compared to oldschool Sony/Nintendo where the CEOs and such were all gamers themselves or legendary developers.

(Above is a very simplified and inaccurate depiction but you get the point)
 
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Xbox hardware isn't the problem. Never has been (well, outside of the RROD debacle). Microsoft is the problem. Microsoft's behavior of trying to consolidate and own the entire industry (just like they did the desktop and office markets of yesteryear) is why people are fed up with them.

They have had an overall deleterious effect on the industry as a whole (edit: see the succinct bullet point list in the post just above) and their constant greed-based, anti-consumer decisions since around 2011/2012 to present have reached a point where no one trusts them anymore. And why should they? I don't trust buying a single digital game on the Xbox platform at all now.

So despite having every Xbox console at launch dating back to the OG with the weapon sized Duke controller, I'm done with them as of this generation. I'm focusing my entire digital collection on PC and PSN, and Xbox is just a third party developer as far as I'm concerned.

That's where they should have been anyway. Microsoft has been, is, and always will be a software and services company first and foremost.
 
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I dont hate xbox, i just see more value elsewhere.

Why buy a $650 console when the cheaper console still has 80% of xbox's 'first party' games and its own exclusives
 
To be honest, never making a Platinum Trophy equivalent always bothered me. Like if I wanted to be a completionist, there was no little ticker showing me how many I maxed out.

So games feel more temporary, less important. Game Pass reinforces this.

They should have leaned into Halo rankings and made an Onyx Achievement.
 
SuperC said:
Aside from the first batch of Xbox 360s, Xbox hardware in general is more reliable than PlayStation and the Series X is a masterpiece of hardware design and reliability, no coil whine, quieter fans, better performance, smaller size, and a cleaner look in comparison the PS5's design is kind of a joke and its reliability is questionable at best, overheating has been a common issue and some consoles even got bricked because of liquid metal leaking onto the motherboard If you place the console in a vertical position



Out of the three PS5, Series X/S and Switch, Xbox controllers have fewer problems in general
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Of the 80 million odd ps5s sold, this dude some how has information on bricked consoles and overheating, which is "a common issue", that no other major news publication has figured out.
 
SuperC said:
Aside from the first batch of Xbox 360s, Xbox hardware in general is more reliable than PlayStation and the Series X is a masterpiece of hardware design and reliability, no coil whine, quieter fans, better performance, smaller size, and a cleaner look in comparison the PS5's design is kind of a joke and its reliability is questionable at best, overheating has been a common issue and some consoles even got bricked because of liquid metal leaking onto the motherboard If you place the console in a vertical position



Out of the three PS5, Series X/S and Switch, Xbox controllers have fewer problems in general
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my x360 and x1x both had issues (liked the design and heft of the x1x though)

i got 3 bad x1x controllers in a row (original bundled with console, then 2 replacements directly from MS)

even my OG fat ps3 still going strong
 
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It's the console fanboyism disease.

People are allergic to just playing games so they have to stan corpos and hate on the competition.

We're seeing it now with Google drones complaining about JerryRigEverything posting that video about the Pixel Fold battery exploding and they're defending Google to death.
 
MisterXDTV said:
The only reason left to buy those consoles was crazy cheap GamePass with Day 1 games included

Now it's $30 a month

/end of thread
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Got a friend who's fresh out of prison and he wants to start gaming, asked for my advice. Since I know he doesn't buy games, and loves CoD, I told him to get a Series X and sub to Game Pass.
 
Nothing is wrong with the Series X, it's the Series S that gets the rightful flack and the rest is usually Microsofts choices, like going after emulation in the early days, etc, that made the Series S actually viable for something
 
ShadyAcshuns said:
Got a friend who's fresh out of prison and he wants to start gaming, asked for my advice. Since I know he doesn't buy games, and loves CoD, I told him to get a Series X and sub to Game Pass.
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Yes, as someone with probably no guaranteed income for the foreseeable future, it's really good to get them hooked up with a $30/month subscription plan.
 
It's not the console - if anything they have a wonderful piece of hardware that does a lot of cool stuff that the PS5 doesn't do (namely in terms of the back-compat stuff).

They have had a problem cultivating a positive culture surrounding the console because generally that culture is built by making great exclusive games, and they just can't figure out how to do it. You cannot build fans on the back of small-fry features like back-compat or smart delivery, you build it by giving them games to play that are unforgettable.

None of us would be Nintendo fans without Link to the Past or Metroid Prime. None of us would be PlayStation fans without Bloodborne or The Last of Us.

The games that MSFT has been delivering haven't been culturally relevant in 15 years. They are not a creative company and don't really "get it" in terms of making great games. Never have.
 
Ainem Enamas said:
I have Series X and this year I have completed many games. Even yesterday I finished Arkham Knight. Why the dislike towards Xbox, I don't get it.
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You should ask that question to Phil Spencer. The Series X is a nice console but Spencernator decided to spend the entire gen trying to sell subs for GamePass and Series S consoles. Its not like ppl hate Xbox, but more like with day 1 games available on PC thers no need to own one. Now Xbox as a console brand is dead.
 
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Sebastian1295 said:
No one dislikes the xbox hardware itself, it's more so that people dislike microsoft as soon as they bought two publishers and tried taking over the industry by driving the competition out of business with those purchases.
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You know DAMN WELL Sony would do the exact same thing.
Sony outright uses timed exclusives to keep games off of other platforms during the MOST IMPORTANT times, launch date, and doesn't even hide it.
 
It's not the console itself. It's the lack of compelling reason to have one. It literally offers nothing that you can't get at the competition where, whereas the competition offers things you can't get anywhere else
 
It's an unnecessary console, it's like something that has no competitive vigor, it's like a team that only loses, it's like rowing against the wind.
 
Boo Who? said:
Love the Series X as a console. The problem is the MS management team putting a bullet in the head of the brand. That is where the problem lies.
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That's the problem, I think because it's hardware is tied to the brand. But if you think about it - they make the games however they like, and if I want to buy the game - I buy it.
 
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