I'm not discounting it. I said they deserve credit for publishing it. But it's worth mentioning that it's a third party game because that plays to their strategy. It means they don't have to take a core team off a safe franchise.
Sure but it's still a Nintendo IP and published by Nintendo exclusively for Nintendo platforms. Whether Miyamoto or whoever actually touched the game or not has little to do with it. They've had Zelda games made by Capcom in the past (among other third party outsourcing), that doesn't diminish those games as Nintendo games.
It's likely only one of those makes it before the Wii U reaches two years of age.
We'll see. I agree both of their releases are totally up in the air right now but it is also almost certain that there are titles we don't know about coming next year. We do know Miyamoto and Intelligent Systems are both working on unannounced new IPs so there is definitely more in the pipeline.
I love FE:A, and if anything, it was a bit of a shake-up. They essentially rebranded a hardcore strategy game as a dating sim for many people. Kid Icarus was the only other 3DS game you mentioned. And Xenoblade was for their last gen console. If you have to dig that far back, there's a problem.
It came out (in America) in 2012, just last year. Last console or not it doesn't mean I am "digging that far back". Is it wrong to say that The Last of Us shook things up since it came out this year on PS3 rather than PS3? No, it isn't. Xenoblade was the same situation last year. There are plenty of other 3DS games Nintendo has released as well that fall in this category, which I think you know seeing as you mentioned a few of them later in your post.
I like PushMo too, but they need to do more, or you'll see more and more threads echoing the sentiments of the OP.
But they do do more. People just ignore anything that isn't one of their big long term franchises and then complain when there is "nothing" but them, even though there is.
Arguable on a per game basis. As a Wii U owner, I didn't even buy NSMBU. The series killed my interest in 2D Mario (which was once one of my favorite of all franchises). 3D World looks fun, but worrying in that it's not an entirely new take on the franchise a la Galaxy. Donkey Kong, again, looks fun, but it's a direct sequel to DKC Returns. And their latest Zelda was a remake.
I don't really think it is that arguable on a per game basis as I can't recall any game in these franchises in the last few years that was actually met with anything but praise from most people. I think it is wrong to dismiss these games because they are direct sequels as they are still innovating in their franchises.
It's not that simple. I could just as easily say "It's kind of easy to argue against Nintendo's 'safe' strategy when you look at the sales of Wii U." Even Guitar Hero put up monster numbers at one point. Nintendo is lacking foresight with this safety first strategy.
The Wii U is not in the shitty situation it is in due to the quality of the software. Outside of Game and Wario all of Nintendo's releases on the system have been top notch and all of the ones they have announced seem to be continuing that trend. Nintendo fucked up Wii U's launch, is continuing to screw up marketing the system, and blatantly lied about having games ready for the months after the platform came out which left a large drought. That is why the system is failing. That had nothing to do with the quality of the games they put on the thing though, or the quality of their games in general.
It's not even just new IPs. Their existing IPs aren't seeing the kind of reinvention necessary for freshness. There's a reason we have a thread on the front page of people still posting about Mario 64. That wasn't the first Mario game, but it was a "holy shit" moment.
I think it is hard to judge games not out before they are actually out. Based on the little we know so far 3D World and DKC:TF both seem to be doing things previous entries have not. Their next Zelda, which is on 3DS, also seems to be taking the franchise in a bit of a new direction.
Compare that to a direct sequel to 3D Land or NSMBU or Donkey Kong Country 5 or a remake of Wii Sports or Wii Fit 3 or Wii Party 2 or Mario Party 3DS. Some of their freshest games are fantastic sequels, like Pikmin 3 or Luigi's Mansion 2, but they're fresh mostly because the sequels are coming 9 years after the originals. Nintendo needs to invest in new experiences even more than new franchises.
See above.
NeoGAF posters have the luxury of dismissing posters who say that their love for Nintendo is fading or who proclaim that the magic is gone. Nintendo, on the other hand, would do well to pay attention.
I am not dismissing anyone. Peoples' tastes change as they grow. For some that means they stop liking Mario and Zelda. My point is Nintendo is more than those big franchises and it sort of aggravates me when that side of Nintendo's software output is continually completely ignored. In the end if Nintendo has to keep releasing Mario, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, etc. (which all do in fact continue to sell ridiculously well) in order to give me a couple games like Wonderful 101, Kid Icarus, X, etc. every year then I am alright with that.
). I even tried some AAA games this year (like Assassin's Creed III) and most had weird floaty controls with slo-mo action moments that made me think "Am I really controlling this character?" So oddly enough I also learned to appreciate the "gamey" feel of Nintendo games after trying some AAA games to broaden my perspective. I'm actually playing Donkey Kong Country Returns right now and wow, it's like a crazy Disneyland Ride like Splash Mountain at times, and I actually have to worry about my life balloons running out (sometimes they do run out).
