I hope the Nintendo Switch 2 fails really hard!!!

NanaMiku

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You seem to be missing some vital information regarding the Japanese Switch 2. The cheaper $330 model is region locked to Japanese games Only. They are also releasing a $467 model Switch 2 that is multi-language and has no region lock.

Clearly Nintendo is trying to curb scalping and/or costs due to tariffs. The console is not overpriced considering inflation and the tech it has under the hood and in its controllers.

But yeah the software price for MK World is insane.
Is it region locked? From what I read it's only have Japanese text and can be only be used with Japanese account. No mention about region lock.
 
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Pop

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Sorry but that is not what it is, Tariffs leads to budget and production cost inflation, unless they produce the game and the console inyour country and can benefit from Tax cuts from your country to counter the Tariffs then we all live in Big Orange Clown Economy.
So is that why digital games are $80 from Nintendo
 
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L*][*N*K

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So is that why digital games are $80 from Nintendo
Since you are new to video games and this is your first week I gotta tell you Digital games and physical have been sold for the same price since the 2000s, the only difference is Digital games are often discounted regularly, welcome on board.
 

Impotaku

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Dorfdad

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Nintendo is the most anti-consumer company in the entire videogame industry and it's not even close. They've really pushed the boundaries with the Switch 2 stuff. Unreal.
Sorry Apple is hands down... and charges much more.
Nintendo is trying to gain grown as fast as possible however.
 

Mibu no ookami

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This cannot be said enough, games that cost pennies to make like Mario Party, Tennis, 1-2 Switch, Splatoon were already a hard sell at 60$, I am not paying 70$ for them. I will stick with my old library and newer Monolith releases. I also need to get the FastRMX sequel. I still play the OG in splitscreen with my son and will buy the sequel even if it costs 70$.

What Nintendo is counting on is an an inverse situation where casuals may be more willing to pay for games like Mario Kart and Donkey Kong than core gamers... especially if they only really expect to buy key Nintendo titles anyways.
 

Ebrietas

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Competition is good for the consumer. XBox has already have one foot out the door. We need both Sony and Nintendo to succeed in the console space.
So competition results in more expensive games? That’s good for the consumer? Lol.

Nintendo just doesn’t give a shit about the customer or game developers. No amount of outside competition will make them change. They don’t care what other platforms are doing and never have. They consistently rip off consumers because offering a good deal is never part of the equation. This has always been the case.

No the market doesn’t need Nintendo consoles any more than it needs a square enix or a capcom console. They could become third party tomorrow and the industry would be better for it. After the Wii and DS they no longer brought anything new or innovative to the hardware space. They just exist to extort their fans with overpriced garbage. As a platform holder they are absolutely worthless. There is not anything switch 2 does that other devices don’t do better or cheaper.
 
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Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Imagine kids this holiday trying to get their parents to buy the Switch 2.

Johnny: "Mom I want a Switch 2, Mario kart, and another game"

Mom: "Ok, Johnny! How much is it?"

Johnny: "The Mario Kart bundle is only $500, My other game is $80, my memory card is $60, and my pro controller is $80."

Mom: " Johnny have you lost your fucking mind? If your good Santa will bring you something"

Johnny : "OK mom, I will be a good boy"

Mom: (shopping with Dad for Johnny's Xmas present and staring a switch 1 and 2) "Hubby look, the switch 1 is much cheaper and looks pretty much the same. Also their Mario Kart Deluxe is $30 cheaper"

Johnny: butthurt on Xmas day
 

Boss Mog

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I went into that Direct with high hopes of wanting to buy a Nintendo system for the first time since the DS. What I saw was exceptionally bad: touting "chat" functionality as something new and revolutionary, paid upgrade patches, Mario Kart Horizon, no new compelling games, just ports of old games. And then the pricing completely killed what little enthusiasm I had left, especially the physical game prices when you consider that Nintendo published games rarely go on sale.

While I would like to see it fail so other companies don't get bad ideas from it, I know it will be successful because Nintendo fans are like Apple fans, they'll buy and put up with just about anything. It will not be as successful as the original Switch though, especially if Sony and MS enter the portable market.
 

Sebastian1295

Gold Member
You should be more mad about hyper inflation and most importantly of all tariffs from the newest resident across the Potomac River than Nintendo.

Yes poor nintendo we must protect this indie company at all costs. Ignore the themeparks they just opened, the movies they're making, the profits from the switch 1 etc. It's that damn inflation and not corporate greed!!!!!
 
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Trunx81

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S2 releases in June, when Trumps tariffs are in full effect. Japan especially is hit hard by today’s announcements. So I’m sure Nintendo already considered this when planning the pricing (because Japanese businessmen are smart).
 
Yes poor nintendo we must protect this indie company at all costs. Ignore the themeparks they just opened, the movies they're making, the profits from the switch 1 etc. It's that damn inflation and not corporate greed!!!!!

You're barking up the wrong tree.

I don't do console wars.

That's the reality of the situation where everything is more expensive in today's climate.

So fuck off with that console warring bullshit.
 

Sebastian1295

Gold Member
You're barking up the wrong tree.

I don't do console wars.

That's the reality of the situation where everything is more expensive in today's climate.

So fuck off with that console warring bullshit.

The reality is that nintendo are overcharging consumers not because of tariffs but because they can get away with it and just want to make more money. With all the merchandise sales, hardware sales, amusement park revenue etc they're not hurting for cash. Tariffs have 0 to do with why they're overpricing there games and screwing consumers. This is the same company that was charging full price for BOTW 5 years after launch and still sells most of there first party games at full price no matter what. There's no defending them at this juncture.

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Trunx81

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The reality is that nintendo are overcharging consumers not because of tariffs but because they can get away with it and just want to make more money. With all the merchandise sales, hardware sales, amusement park revenue etc they're not hurting for cash. Tariffs have 0 to do with why they're overpricing there games and screwing consumers. This is the same company that was charging full price for BOTW 5 years after launch and still sells most of there first party games at full price no matter what. There's no defending them at this juncture.

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Wait until the other console makers will follow. This is just the beginning of a long, dark period of trade wars. We need the Jedi to interfere.
 

DinoD

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I don't want any game company/game developer to fail. Everyone's product/value proposition is left to market to decide if its success or failure.
 

Moses85

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Nintendo will give their customers what they deserve. Buying the Switch 1 for its overprized price was Not the smartest move. Nintendo thinks their customers are stupid fools and the the Most of them are stupid. All others (Sony, Microsoft..) would be already burning in hell therefor.
 

Crayon

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The game prices are shitty but this thing is going to kill. You guys are nuts. Go back and read the board when they did the switch 1 show. This place was hardcore melting down. It was a disaster 5x compared to the reaction today.
 

Trunx81

Member
If sony or microsoft go this route then i'll call them out as well. 80 dollar for games is insane but especially with nintendo because you know that price is never coming down.
Nintendo prices have already been insane all those years. Mario Kart Deluxe is still a high price game. While other companies offer their games in cheap deals after some time, the lowest I’ve seen MKD was 39,99. Seldom as well.

Inflation is no joke and it’s happening worldwide. I’m not trying to defend Nintendo and I would also be happier with cheaper prices. But someone had to start it and coming from a position of power, Nintendo was meant to be the first.

For us consumer it’s a slap into the face, although I bought SNES games back in the day for similar prices.
 

L*][*N*K

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Not just Nintendo, $70 is already too much.
I %100 agree, but it is the reality of the current economy we live in, my Barber who I started going to in 2000 and have been since then just told me he had to bump up the price I mean it is the same haircut what can I do?
 

hemo memo

You can't die before your death
Fail hard? No. But if it underperforms sales expectations, that could pressure Nintendo to rethink their pricing—which might actually be the best (if unlikely) outcome for consumers.
 

AddiF

Member
Why does inflation not apply to new gaming products (in this case, Nintendo) when everything around us is getting more and more expensive?

I've seen literally everything get more expensive, from groceries, gas, electronics, mortgage, cars, whatever. It's a price hike of 5-50%, depends on the subject. Heck, the industry I work in, I've seen some prices doubled in the last 5 years. At least for me, just being alive, being a homeowner and commuting is a hell of a lot more expensive now compared to pre-2020.

Why and how should consoles, accessories and games in 2025 be excluded from those price hikes? If the gaming industry don't need to because "so very rich", or can't raise prices like every other industry without loud angry protests online by gamers, why does it happen everywhere else and where is the loud angry protests for all those other price hikes around us that make living so expensive?

I hate price increases just like everyone else, but lets be honest here. Everything is getting more expensive by the day almost. It isn't just one big bad company being greedy. It's the whole banking system, global governments, every industry is causing the increase of prices of consumer products. Look at everything around you. I know I feel it everytime I pay for groceries, gas and whatnot.

The cost of living is just going up and it's not just because of Nintendo or Switch 2.
 

Ritsumei2020

Who did they think I was shilling for?
Truth is, inflation is rising but wages are not. Everything feels more expensive.

Then you guys in the US will have to deal with additional taxes on top lol
 

ItsGreat

Member
Imagine kids this holiday trying to get their parents to buy the Switch 2.

Johnny: "Mom I want a Switch 2, Mario kart, and another game"

Mom: "Ok, Johnny! How much is it?"

Johnny: "The Mario Kart bundle is only $500, My other game is $80, my memory card is $60, and my pro controller is $80."

Mom: " Johnny have you lost your fucking mind? If your good Santa will bring you something"

Johnny : "OK mom, I will be a good boy"

Mom: (shopping with Dad for Johnny's Xmas present and staring a switch 1 and 2) "Hubby look, the switch 1 is much cheaper and looks pretty much the same. Also their Mario Kart Deluxe is $30 cheaper"

Johnny: butthurt on Xmas day

Game console buying isn’t the kiddie lead proposition it once was. The family as a whole will decide. Like buying a car.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Why does inflation not apply to new gaming products (in this case, Nintendo) when everything around us is getting more and more expensive?

I've seen literally everything get more expensive, from groceries, gas, electronics, mortgage, cars, whatever. It's a price hike of 5-50%, depends on the subject. Heck, the industry I work in, I've seen some prices doubled in the last 5 years. At least for me, just being alive, being a homeowner and commuting is a hell of a lot more expensive now compared to pre-2020.

Why and how should consoles, accessories and games in 2025 be excluded from those price hikes? If the gaming industry don't need to because "so very rich", or can't raise prices like every other industry without loud angry protests online by gamers, why does it happen everywhere else and where is the loud angry protests for all those other price hikes around us that make living so expensive?

I hate price increases just like everyone else, but lets be honest here. Everything is getting more expensive by the day almost. It isn't just one big bad company being greedy. It's the whole banking system, global governments, every industry is causing the increase of prices of consumer products. Look at everything around you. I know I feel it everytime I pay for groceries, gas and whatnot.

The cost of living is just going up and it's not just because of Nintendo or Switch 2.
Because gaming is an industry where the customer base expects dirt cheap hardware as long as possible. But it's changing. It used to be $300-400 was the upper band, but with PS5 it went to $500 US for the disc option. Who knows how many units PS5 Pro has sold but thats at $700.

Same goes for games. For a long time the standard price of console games was $60, changed to $70 and people bitched, but now accepted. $80 is the next step. People will moan, but will it get accepted later? I think so. Just give it time to adjust.
 

AddiF

Member
Because gaming is an industry where the customer base expects dirt cheap hardware as long as possible. But it's changing. It used to be $300-400 was the upper band, but with PS5 it went to $500 US for the disc option. Who knows how many units PS5 Pro has sold but thats at $700.

Same goes for games. For a long time the standard price of console games was $60, changed to $70 and people bitched, but now accepted. $80 is the next step. People will moan, but will it get accepted later? I think so. Just give it time to adjust.

I think I won't ever understand people complaining about console prices being 400-700 yet expect leaps in technology, for something they buy every 4-8 years but at the same time buy smartphones every year for 800-1300 dollars for marginal upgrades and are happy about that.
 
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You seem to be missing some vital information regarding the Japanese Switch 2. The cheaper $330 model is region locked to Japanese games Only. They are also releasing a $467 model Switch 2 that is multi-language and has no region lock.

Clearly Nintendo is trying to curb scalping and/or costs due to tariffs. The console is not overpriced considering inflation and the tech it has under the hood and in its controllers.

But yeah the software price for MK World is insane.

So where's my $330 English only Region 1 Switch 2?
 

HRK69

Member
Imagine kids this holiday trying to get their parents to buy the Switch 2.

Johnny: "Mom I want a Switch 2, Mario kart, and another game"

Mom: "Ok, Johnny! How much is it?"

Johnny: "The Mario Kart bundle is only $500, My other game is $80, my memory card is $60, and my pro controller is $80."

Mom: " Johnny have you lost your fucking mind? If your good Santa will bring you something"

Johnny : "OK mom, I will be a good boy"

Mom: (shopping with Dad for Johnny's Xmas present and staring a switch 1 and 2) "Hubby look, the switch 1 is much cheaper and looks pretty much the same. Also their Mario Kart Deluxe is $30 cheaper"

Johnny: butthurt on Xmas day
This whole scenario falls apart under basic logic. If Johnny’s parents are already considering buying him a new console, why would they deliberately buy the outdated Switch 1 instead of the Switch 2? That’s like buying a PS4 in 2025 when your kid wants a PS5

It just doesn’t make sense

This argument is just another weak attempt to hate on the Switch 2 by making up unrealistic situations
 

Trunx81

Member
This whole scenario falls apart under basic logic. If Johnny’s parents are already considering buying him a new console, why would they deliberately buy the outdated Switch 1 instead of the Switch 2? That’s like buying a PS4 in 2025 when your kid wants a PS5

It just doesn’t make sense

This argument is just another weak attempt to hate on the Switch 2 by making up unrealistic situations
Fortnite and Minecraft run on them. I´m even considering right now to get my daughter a cheap Switch Lite.
 

HRK69

Member
Fortnite and Minecraft run on them. I´m even considering right now to get my daughter a cheap Switch Lite.
A Switch Lite or an old Switch might make sense if all the kid wants to do is play Minecraft and Fortnite

But if they’re asking for a Switch 2 specifically, why buy a Switch Lite or an old Switch?

If a kid is asking for a Switch 2, then a parent buying a Switch 1 to "save money" is just throwing cash at something that won’t satisfy what their kid actually wanted in the first place
 
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