Kenka said:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=187401&st=0
The entire 400/500 series. It's random and can vary from brand to brand of the same card.
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http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=187401&st=0
The entire 400/500 series. It's random and can vary from brand to brand of the same card.
Johnny2Bags
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Yeah Multiple GPU incompatibilities exist for sure.. I believe mine is Crossfire only. Other than that I'm either confused, or learned something new!
EarsOfASnake
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Ok, making my purchase within the next couple of hours, any glaring mistakes with this?
MikeDub said:
With that many high end products going in there, the only downsides I see are the Cav Green and CAS9 RAM. I'd prefer a cav black (way faster and better reliability), and CAS8 or 7 RAM. If you're trying to bring down the price slighty, those are two good areas to do so.
**edit** I mean, if you're trying to save money, your choices for big HDD and RAM are a good way to do so, as they are both good choices.
This case was posted a ways back and it immediately caught my eye, I really like the look of it. How does it compare to the ABS Diablo Adv. I currently have the Diablo but, if the 600T is a much better case I will gladly buy one when they hit for my new build at the end of the year/early next year.
MisterAnderson
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Hmm... I guess my 4GHz overclock isn't as stable as I thought. I've been running it fine for about two days but today two times in a row shortly after booting up it does a hard lock up on the desktop. No error messages or anything it just freezes completely, can't move the mouse and ctrl alt del does nothing.
Is there anything I can do to try to stabilize it or do I just need to pull it back from 4 GHz?
Is there anything I can do to try to stabilize it or do I just need to pull it back from 4 GHz?
When are the Radeon 7000 series or cards supposed to hit?
I am looking to upgrade my card around August and kind of want to stay away from Nvidia this time around. I would upgrade sooner to that 2GB card (forgot which one it was!), but I dont have the money at the moment and I wont really need to extra performance for a while since I am currently playing through some less demanding games as I try to catch up with the rest of the PC world!
I am looking to upgrade my card around August and kind of want to stay away from Nvidia this time around. I would upgrade sooner to that 2GB card (forgot which one it was!), but I dont have the money at the moment and I wont really need to extra performance for a while since I am currently playing through some less demanding games as I try to catch up with the rest of the PC world!
Blackheim said:
I don't know much about the Diablo case, but just looking at the pictures on newegg I'd venture the corsair would have these improvements.
-Way better cable management, this helps keep temps down and the case looking nice and tidy.
-Better airflow.
-Aesthetics are subjective, but I think that diablo is horrible looking, so the corsair has that one.
-Bottom mounted PSU
-Easier to build in.
-A few pounds lighter.
If that's worth it to you, go for it. The case is the one thing that I think too many people overlook and try to cut back on. I always suggest that the mobo and case are the two parts most worth splurging on.
ZZMitch said:
Maybe Q4 2011. That'll be the 78xx (assuming they keep the numbers the same), however. Any reason in particular you're avoiding Nvidia?
MisterNoisy
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Blackheim said:
I really like that Corsair, too - the cable management holes alone make it look like a joy to build in, and I'm partial to cases with the PSU on the bottom pulling air in from under the chassis.
I was looking at that one too but, why that one over the 600T? I like the the USB ports/location on the 600T and it seems the 650D does not? Well, I really can't tell what's going on with the 650, the picture isn't very helpful :/TheExodu5 said:
MisterNoisy said:
Yeah man, that case is really attractive for a build. The 650d is nice too but, the whole USB thing I mentioned above puts the 600T a little above it.
Blackheim said:
Just upgraded my system into the 600t after a few years with a cheapo case. Huge improvement with that I had previously. The cable management is excellent, lots of room inside for extra long video cards, fan controller is nifty (though the range is quite small). The case is deceptively big for a mid tower, the two 200mm fans are not the greatest but they can be replaced (I replaced the top fan with two 120 Noctuas). The biggest knock against this case is that the air flow won't blow you away. However, they just came out with a different side panel that adds space for 4 fans - air flow is excellent in my case now. I would recommend this case to anyone.
Well I built my first PC last year and my first (and current) card, a GTX 460, has been complete ass for my so far, stability wise. I know the card is the problem, and I have RMAd it once already, but both have been faulty. Currently it is running ok, but in the 4X PCI-E slot since it crashes in the other one.mkenyon said:
I guess I would just like to give the other guys a go this time around!
I didn't think anout upgrading the CPU alone. Last year, my mobo fried and I had to buy anohter. This new mobo has 1333/1600 FSB support, which means I could actually upgrade the CPU (the other CPU only had 1066 support, which is what the qx6700 uses).mkenyon said:
HOWEVER, the only actual upgrade from my CPU is either the Quad Q9650 (which runs at 3.00, which my CPU can run at with a simple multiplier change) or the Duo Q8500, which runs at a measly 3.33. The Q9650 is also 300 bucks. The fastest Sandy Bridge on the market (a Unlocked one with Hyper Threading) costs 350. This is not a smart purchase...
While this computer is somewhat of a beast, I have issues running Bad Company 2 already. I can't imagine what's going to happen on Battlefield 3. I could upgrade just the video card, but since Bad Company 2 is the only game where I see a framerate drop.... I don't know it would do much good.
Damn, i really need a videocard to test this.
drizzle said:I didn't think anout upgrading the CPU alone. Last year, my mobo fried and I had to buy anohter. This new mobo has 1333/1600 FSB support, which means I could actually upgrade the CPU (the other CPU only had 1066 support, which is what the qx6700 uses).
HOWEVER, the only actual upgrade from my CPU is either the Quad Q9650 (which runs at 3.00, which my CPU can run at with a simple multiplier change) or the Duo Q8500, which runs at a measly 3.33. The Q9650 is also 300 bucks. The fastest Sandy Bridge on the market (a Unlocked one with Hyper Threading) costs 350. This is not a smart purchase...
Don't just look at clocks, the 9650 has 12megs of L2 Cache.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/xfx-gf-gtx285-gtx295_11.html#sect1
It's barely below the i7 920 in performance there. It can also be OC'd to 4Ghz. Not trying to convince you, just trying to give you some options if a whole new system is too big of a bullet to bite.
On the topic of cases, we're only a few weeks (days?) away from Fractal Design's official US release.
Yup, no more ~$50 shipping from Canada. Hopefully, they stick to the American distribution schedule they made months ago.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25260446&postcount=1434
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25306454&postcount=1714
CES 2011 : The 650D from Corsair, possibly the perfect case?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXdOO6xaths
CES 2011 - Corsair Unveils HS1A Headset, 650D & 600T Cases, Performance 3 SSDs and Corsair Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD3eveuzhiE
Personally, I think the 650D looks better and it also benefits from improved cooling over the 600T (better fans, plus a smarter top exhaust location). It sounds like you missed where the front I/O is. It's located behind the first 5.25" front panel plate so that it can be hidden from view when not in use. Above that, there's an external SDD/HDD drive dock which some users find very helpful. If it makes a difference to you the front panel is aluminum, and in place of the plastic you'll find on the 600T, the 650D uses steel.
Now it's just a matter of whether you think the 650D's changes over the 600T are worth the $40-50 price increase.
Yup, no more ~$50 shipping from Canada. Hopefully, they stick to the American distribution schedule they made months ago.
Did you miss my brief love affair with the 650D?Blackheim said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25260446&postcount=1434
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25306454&postcount=1714
CES 2011 : The 650D from Corsair, possibly the perfect case?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXdOO6xaths
CES 2011 - Corsair Unveils HS1A Headset, 650D & 600T Cases, Performance 3 SSDs and Corsair Link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD3eveuzhiE
Personally, I think the 650D looks better and it also benefits from improved cooling over the 600T (better fans, plus a smarter top exhaust location). It sounds like you missed where the front I/O is. It's located behind the first 5.25" front panel plate so that it can be hidden from view when not in use. Above that, there's an external SDD/HDD drive dock which some users find very helpful. If it makes a difference to you the front panel is aluminum, and in place of the plastic you'll find on the 600T, the 650D uses steel.
Now it's just a matter of whether you think the 650D's changes over the 600T are worth the $40-50 price increase.
Alright, I know this is the "I need a new PC" thread, but I have a small question. My graphics card's been acting weird. I sent an RMA to PNY, and they accepted. However, I need to send them my card, and they didn't specify how. Should I just send it in any box?
I can't believe they're not going to pay for the shipping.
LaserBuddha
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I'm gonna pick up a 6950 too. Any reason not to get the Sapphire one?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004FPYJFI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004FPYJFI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
MikeE21286
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Just bought my first SSD.
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX90G 3.5" 90GB SATA II
Got it for $102 (w/ free shipping). I can deal with $1.13/GB
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX90G 3.5" 90GB SATA II
Got it for $102 (w/ free shipping). I can deal with $1.13/GB
drizzle said:
The Q6600's have a sort of overclocking hole around 3.1-3.2. You might just be cranking volts needlessly if it's in that gap that the CPU doesn't seem to like. You could try to just shoot for 3.4 and actually find it easier than 3.2. I think i'm sitting at 1.4V running around 3.5.
From The Dust
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Zenith said:
oh man, now I'm afraid to get a 560 Ti. does the Radeons have this problem?
Just wanted to pop in (my first post!) and say thanks to the contributers of this thread.
Im building my first PC this weekend and have been lurking this thread for the last month or two gathering info for my build. Here's what I came up with, parts have already been delivered or are in transit.
Antec 902 Mid Tower Case
MSI P67A-GD55 Motherboard (will be exchanging to MSI in April via cross ship)
Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II
Patriot G Series Sector 5 Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
1 x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM SATA
1 x Crucial RealSSD C300 64 GB SATA III
Very excited to get this put together but just had a couple questions:
Does Arctic Silver 5 go bad? Ive had some stashed away since last year when I had to fix a RROD 360.
Is AS5 good enough for this build or do I need to order something fancier? I plan on doing some mild OCing but nothing crazy.
Finally, If everything else is equal (brand, timings, etc) can I mix RAM sizes? (2 x 2GB + 2 x 4GB)?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220436
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...66&cm_re=sector_5_ddr3-_-20-220-466-_-Product
Sorry for text wall and thanks again!
Im building my first PC this weekend and have been lurking this thread for the last month or two gathering info for my build. Here's what I came up with, parts have already been delivered or are in transit.
Antec 902 Mid Tower Case
MSI P67A-GD55 Motherboard (will be exchanging to MSI in April via cross ship)
Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
MSI N560GTX-TI Twin Frozr II
Patriot G Series Sector 5 Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
1 x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM SATA
1 x Crucial RealSSD C300 64 GB SATA III
Very excited to get this put together but just had a couple questions:
Does Arctic Silver 5 go bad? Ive had some stashed away since last year when I had to fix a RROD 360.
Is AS5 good enough for this build or do I need to order something fancier? I plan on doing some mild OCing but nothing crazy.
Finally, If everything else is equal (brand, timings, etc) can I mix RAM sizes? (2 x 2GB + 2 x 4GB)?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220436
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...66&cm_re=sector_5_ddr3-_-20-220-466-_-Product
Sorry for text wall and thanks again!
MisterNoisy
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MacAttack said:
Nice build - post pics after you get it put together!
AS5 should be fine, though some say that MX is better. At most, you're talking a degree or two tho.
I've had thermal grease separate on me over time, but it doesn't cake up or what have you in my experience. That said, your Hyper 212 should come with pretty serviceable paste just in case your AS5 has somehow gone south.
You can definitely mix RAM sizes with other factors being equal - just make sure to put the matched pairs in their own channel - they should be color coded on your motherboard's slots.
wandering goat
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MacAttack said:
I've heard it said that the TIM that the Hyper 212+ comes with is probably Coolermaster's ThermalFusion 400, which is pretty decent and (as someone mentioned earlier in this thread) comparable with AS5. I don't know if the paste type has ever actually been confirmed though. Either way, the Hyper 212+ TIM works good and is enough for a good OC, let alone a mild one.
[edit] Actually just noticed you already had AS5. Anyway, yeah, should be good enough.
MisterNoisy
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DarkUSS said:
I've had a Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB since August, and it's been a peach in two different motherboards. Admittedly, that was pretty early in the product cycle and things may have changed, but I can't complain at all.
Get 1.5V RAM if you can, both will work though.MikeDub said:
Get a 650 or 750W if you can stretch a bit. The CX isnt the best, but isn't bad.
Get a 7200rpm F3 1TB Samsung hdd
Lastly do you need a 2600k over a 2500k?
As long as it's not caked up or anything. AS5 is fine.MacAttack said:
This is the kind of post I was looking for
Yes I did haha, I browse in spurts. Also Yeah I missed it being being in the front panel, which I though was odd they didn't have something similar for the 650D when the 600T had it. I was thinking that was an e-sata port up top but, really couldn't tell for sure.
With that revelation and having watched the videos, I do believe I am sold on the 650D and will place a pre-order probably as soon as it's available. Only to have it sit around until AMD get their new CPUs and 7000 series video cards out >_>
·feist· said:
Yes I did haha, I browse in spurts. Also Yeah I missed it being being in the front panel, which I though was odd they didn't have something similar for the 650D when the 600T had it. I was thinking that was an e-sata port up top but, really couldn't tell for sure.
With that revelation and having watched the videos, I do believe I am sold on the 650D and will place a pre-order probably as soon as it's available. Only to have it sit around until AMD get their new CPUs and 7000 series video cards out >_>
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