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Ajemsuhgao
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What would be the best option for nvidia video cards under $200?
I keep looking at this one here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130596
Which..seems good to me, but I don't really know that much about video cards.
Then while browsing newegg today, I see this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162079
and this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130652
Which seem better to me, judging by clock speed and amount of memory. But memory interface is 192-bit vs 256-bit on the first card I linked.
So basically, I don't know crap about video card specs, and I'm just looking at numbers and confusing myself in the process.
Of these three, which would be the best choice? And are there any on newegg that would be better for around the same price? The under $200 thing is before tax of course, my budget isn't extremely tight, but I'd like to stay around the 200 price point.
For reference, my current card is a 1 gig Zotac 9600GT 256-bit GDDR3. So any of these cards would be a pretty big jump I think...
I keep looking at this one here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130596
Which..seems good to me, but I don't really know that much about video cards.
Then while browsing newegg today, I see this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162079
and this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130652
Which seem better to me, judging by clock speed and amount of memory. But memory interface is 192-bit vs 256-bit on the first card I linked.
So basically, I don't know crap about video card specs, and I'm just looking at numbers and confusing myself in the process.
Of these three, which would be the best choice? And are there any on newegg that would be better for around the same price? The under $200 thing is before tax of course, my budget isn't extremely tight, but I'd like to stay around the 200 price point.
For reference, my current card is a 1 gig Zotac 9600GT 256-bit GDDR3. So any of these cards would be a pretty big jump I think...
SneakyStephan
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nilbog21 said:
Holy cow, I wonder what the shipping cost would be to order one of those from europe...
That's only 128 euros for a 6950... over here that powercolor card is 200 euros, and most other brands are 230-260...
RumblingRosco
Member
scogoth said:
Figured as much. Thanks.
knitoe said:
Yeah, when I use the script to unlock shaders only and then use atiwinflash; I can get the memory and clock to 810/1250 but shaders stay locked.
I've followed these - http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=3475.0
- http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137136 (but used my bios and other 6950 ones that were modded, not the 6970 ones)
- http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/923129-hd-6950-810-1250-mhz-shader.html
No luck with the actual shaders lol.
Maybe I"ll just start all over again. It's switch to bios 2; boot into dos prompt, switch to one, then log in normally?
Shader unlock Mod Patch file:http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40916&d=1299190853RS4- said:
1) Switch should be in position 1. Only use 2 if flash goes wrong and you can't boot up the video card.
2) Use Winflash to save your current video card bios.
3) Run the patch to create a modify bios.
4) Use Winflash to flash the card with the modify bios.
vitaminwateryum
corporate swill
Hazaro said:
Thanks. Went with your suggestion on the PSU and grabbed a GD65 as well. What kind of difference does the voltage make?
knitoe said:
Much appreciated! A friend was telling me that the voltage doesn't really matter and the ram timing was more important. But since I more than likely won't be overclocking the small difference in ram timing won't make a huge impact anyway, right?
With Torchligth 2 on the horizon I've come to the conclusion that my current 8400 GS doesn't cut it anymore and I'm looking for a replacement, and I guess I have some rather unusual requirements.
As a Linux user I'm unfortunately limited to Nvidia cards. I want good performance in Torchlight and old games such as HL2, preferably in 1920x1200 resolution, with full effects and at least a little bit of AA, and that's something my current card doesn't come close to being able to deliver. I want DirectX 11, OpenGL 4 and modern video acceleration and CUDA, and due to disliking noise and having previously had a scary 7600 GT fan failure I'd very much like for the card to be passively cooled. I'm willing to a hundred dollars, maybe a bit more.
This seems to cut down on my options to almost nothing. Browsing newegg I can find GT 210, GT 220, GT 430 and GT 520, of which it only seems that the 430 is even an option. After reading a few benchmarks my mostly uninformed impression that the 430 could possibly do what I want it to do, but I couldn't help noticing that the GTS 450 also featured in the same benchmarks is only slightly more expensive and completely destroys the 430, which makes me question its value. The 450 has a fan though.
Is the 430 a good buy or should I be looking at something else? Or am I silly for wanting a passively cooled card? Are there some quiet, cool and most importantly very stable, actively cooled cards I should be looking at, cards that definitely won't start melting and catch fire after months of 24/7 use? Or are there new lower end cards that are coming soon that would serve my needs better than the current crop?
Actually, if someone would just tell me that the 7600 GT was a hot-running accident waiting to happen, I'd settle for just that. That accident really freaked me out.
As a Linux user I'm unfortunately limited to Nvidia cards. I want good performance in Torchlight and old games such as HL2, preferably in 1920x1200 resolution, with full effects and at least a little bit of AA, and that's something my current card doesn't come close to being able to deliver. I want DirectX 11, OpenGL 4 and modern video acceleration and CUDA, and due to disliking noise and having previously had a scary 7600 GT fan failure I'd very much like for the card to be passively cooled. I'm willing to a hundred dollars, maybe a bit more.
This seems to cut down on my options to almost nothing. Browsing newegg I can find GT 210, GT 220, GT 430 and GT 520, of which it only seems that the 430 is even an option. After reading a few benchmarks my mostly uninformed impression that the 430 could possibly do what I want it to do, but I couldn't help noticing that the GTS 450 also featured in the same benchmarks is only slightly more expensive and completely destroys the 430, which makes me question its value. The 450 has a fan though.
Is the 430 a good buy or should I be looking at something else? Or am I silly for wanting a passively cooled card? Are there some quiet, cool and most importantly very stable, actively cooled cards I should be looking at, cards that definitely won't start melting and catch fire after months of 24/7 use? Or are there new lower end cards that are coming soon that would serve my needs better than the current crop?
Actually, if someone would just tell me that the 7600 GT was a hot-running accident waiting to happen, I'd settle for just that. That accident really freaked me out.
Looks good to me.GuiltybyAssociation said:GAF, please help, just a quick look over. I'd like to order soon so I just need to know everything's fine:
Is this fine? No glaring missteps here? I have everything else I need already, of course.
Personally I'd get the 3 slot ASUS 570 for its cooler.
SB is specced for 1.5V, but can run on 1.65V RAM.vitaminwateryum said:
Timings don't really matter. 1-3% at most.
Well if that is all you need, you'd be good with a GTS 450.pmj said:
The MSI Cyclone is a good version: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127521
and around your price.
It's about $120. Now, if you spend $150, you'll be getting something like 40% better performance from a GTX 460 768MB. (ASUS GTX 460 768MB).
The cooler is much better on the MSI though.
Peterthumpa
Member
I need a quick help from GTX580-GAF.
Just bought a used ECS GTX 580 from a friend. Until now, everything seems fine, awesome card.
My only concern is about fan speed. nVidia Inspector shows that the fan speed is @ 70%, even at idle, on my desktop right now, and the minimum to set manually is also 70%.
Is this normal? If not, which fan setting is recommended?
Just bought a used ECS GTX 580 from a friend. Until now, everything seems fine, awesome card.
My only concern is about fan speed. nVidia Inspector shows that the fan speed is @ 70%, even at idle, on my desktop right now, and the minimum to set manually is also 70%.
Is this normal? If not, which fan setting is recommended?
I posted few pages ago but got nothing. The gist of my issue is that I can't get a folder to stay non read-only, and I'm not entirely sure why. I have the Windows 7 UAC thing turned off but the read-only box still gets reverted to being checked immediately after i turn it off...
vitaminwateryum
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Ahh. Good to hear. I had a feeling it couldn't too big of a difference.knitoe said:
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
Definitely that first card. It's got a really nice OC already too. The 550Ti is worse than the 460 768MB (which is worse than the 460 1GB), you definitely don't want to go that route.Ajemsuhgao said:
If you really need to get a Dell, that second one is far better, but it's still not a great buy. What do you plan to do with it? Both have garbage GPUs.yankeehater said:
ok. i think this is my final build that i talked to you guys about a few days ago... i just want to double check a few things.
does this look good?
also... my two other questions are:
1. the graphics card has hdmi out... will this carry audio out as well? my television has its audio set out to my receiver with optical audio. so i want to know if just the one cable to my tv will do the job, or if i need to figure out a special plan to hook this up to surround sound?
2. will the graphics card be compatible with this mother board?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ark=&IsFeedbackTab=true&Page=4#scrollFullInfo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157229
one of the reviews on the graphics card says: "This card takes up THREE slots! Which means the only motherboard that can hold these cards in SLI is the Rampage Extreme which has 4 PCI Express 2.0 slots."
sorry i'm still new to all this pc building stuff!
Thank you. I live in Sweden and I'm having trouble finding these cyclone cards from MSI. The one I can find anywhere that's in stock is a cyclone GTX 550 which seems to be in the same range as the GTX 460 both in price and performance, but I'll look around a bit more before I pull the trigger.Hazaro said:
And I take it that failures related to cooling are rare then?
Saw this posted elsewhere and thought the Silverstone FT03 would be a great high end case for a HTPC. It looks great and really is small, looks like a Sub-woofer.
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=2664666&postcount=141
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=2664666&postcount=141
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
First of all, check for some combos on your parts or similar ones, you could probably save yourself a little more money.Jeramii said:
1) Not sure, but it should. You'll just have to make sure it's set as your default output device in your sound settings.
However, my receiver wouldn't accept sound from my PC over HDMI, even though my TV would. Yet the same receiver DOES accept sound over HDMI for my PS3 and 360. YMMV I guess.
2) The card will work fine on any motherboard. But the card will cover up the second PCIe x16 slot on most motherboards, so you couldn't run two cards in SLI. For the record, there are several boards that could run those in SLI, but if you aren't using two cards it won't matter.
Other than that, I'd say you don't need a wrist strap unless you just want to be extra cautious. As long as you work on a solid (not carpet) floor and wear shoes or work barefoot you should be fine. You can also keep your arms touching the case as you work in it to prevent screwing stuff up with static.
You can get faster, cheaper RAM.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
And maybe a cheaper P67 motherboard, but I don't know if that one has features you want/need.
Also not sure about the case. The 900 is pretty old and you could probably get a comparable or better case cheaper than that (and there is a new version of the 900 for $20 more). I'd probably go with a HAF 922 or CM690 II Advanced in that price range, but it's your call if you prefer the way that one looks.
Yeah no luck for me. Still stays at 810/1250. Even uninstalled the video drivers, restarted and gpuz detected it as an Asus card; reinstalled drivers and no shaded unlock, just the above numbers.knitoe said:
Flashed it back to stock. Will run bench, then flash and run them again and see if it's just gpuz not working properly.
- if I do the command line stuff with atiwinflash (...unlock rom; -f -p ...) its successful
- I run atiwinflash gui to make sure and it says the vbios is the same version.
Hey guys, I'm doing a completely new build (my first complete refresh in 7 years), am I causing any bottlenecks with this setup?
Asus ATI Radeon HD 6970 DirectCU II 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1)
Coolermaster HAF X with Coolermaster GX 750W PSU
Asus P8P67 PRO Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION **
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor with FREE Operation Flashpoint Red River Game
G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM)
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD1002FAEX)
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler (Socket AM2/AM2+/AM3/775/1155/1156/1366)
Akasa BayMaster Card & Drive Reader (AK-ICR-10)
Sony Optiarc AD-5260S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM
Asus ATI Radeon HD 6970 DirectCU II 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Crucial RealSSD C300 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive (CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1)
Coolermaster HAF X with Coolermaster GX 750W PSU
Asus P8P67 PRO Intel P67 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard - (Sandybridge) ** B3 REVISION **
Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz (Sandybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor with FREE Operation Flashpoint Red River Game
G.Skill RipJawsX 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM)
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD1002FAEX)
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler (Socket AM2/AM2+/AM3/775/1155/1156/1366)
Akasa BayMaster Card & Drive Reader (AK-ICR-10)
Sony Optiarc AD-5260S 24x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM
I ordered the Amazon MSI 580 GTX price mistake at 370 a piece, and after some haggling got them to price match the EVGA cards, 10 credit, and the rebates to boot.
Not bad..... now to decide on my 3 LED/LCD setup and desk and I'm all set. First new new desktop I've built in 15+ years, hoping it'll last 5-7 years. I'll probably upgrade to a better SSD in a year or 2.
Maztorre said:
1) There's a DirectCu II version of the 6970? Awesome. I can now recommend an alternative to the GTX 570!
2) To anyone buying a new SSD, I recommend going with the Intel 320 series. Other manufacturers tend to have annoying issues that pop up with their drives. Intel is ultra reliable, and comparable in terms of performance.
3) Make sure you know you want a full tower. I got a HAF X for my build, but I find the case far too big. It makes it easy to build, but if ever I need to move it or bring it to LANs, it's a pain.
Everything looks great. Good part selection.
CrankyJay said:
Well he'll be running games off the 1TB HDD...I wouldn't want to RAID 1 a games drive. For Steam games, I'd consider RAID 0. For media and less easily replaceable data, I'd consider RAID 1.
Dosia said:
Yeah I've been seeing that disparity with pretty much all the Sandy Bridge chips. I think the temperature sensors can have a margin of error of around 10C, due to their positioning in relation to the cores. Use the hottest one as your baseline. And 65C is fine. Stop your overclock when you reach low 70's. 65C was the rule for the old Core 2 Duos...the newer chips tend to run hotter safely.
Hi there, I just got a new 23'' monitor that's 120 Hz and 1080p, so I'd like to gift "him" a new PC.
Gaming is the focus, by the way.
I'm italian, so don't be surprised by the names and prices... ^^
EK00001963 Assemblaggio e Test PC 35,00 35,00 0,00%
EK00005604 Alimentatore PC Modulare Corsair Professional Series HX750 750W 80Plus SLI-Ready 112,10 112,10 0,00%
EK00006411 Hard Disk Interno Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200rpm 32MB SATA2 HD103SJ 43,70 87,40 0,00%
EK00013828 Case Midi Cooler Master 690 II LITE ATX Pure Black 77,00 77,00 0,00%
EK00013950 Masterizzatore Interno Sony AD-5260S 24x DVD/CD SATA Bulk Nero 17,80 17,80 0,00%
EK00015302 CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz Socket 1155 95W con GPU Sandy Bridge Boxed BX80623I52500K 172,80 172,80 0,00%
EK00015529 VGA Gainward GeForce GTX 570 "Phantom" Core 750MHz Memory GDDR5 3800MHz 1280MB 2xDVI HDMI DisplayPort 282,20 282,20 0,00%
EK00017156 Scheda Madre Asrock P67 Extreme4 rev.B3 Socket 1155 Intel P67 DDR3 SATA3 USB3 ATX 117,50 117,50 0,00%
EK00017880 .RAM DDR3 G.Skill Sniper F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 1600MHz 8GB (2x4GB) CL9 1.25 Voltage 81,00 81,00 0,00%
TOTALE: 982,80
What do you think?
Main doubts:
- is it overkill? I do not have that much time to play unfortunately
- should I wait for Z68 and/or AMD Zambezi Bulldozer?
- could that build be ready for a quick SLI in the future?
- I never oc'ed and maybe I'll never do it, so it is worth it to buy some cheaper component and be happy with stock speed for life?
Thanks so much for your help, I really need it since I'm no expert (quite n00bish to be honest).
Gaming is the focus, by the way.
I'm italian, so don't be surprised by the names and prices... ^^
EK00001963 Assemblaggio e Test PC 35,00 35,00 0,00%
EK00005604 Alimentatore PC Modulare Corsair Professional Series HX750 750W 80Plus SLI-Ready 112,10 112,10 0,00%
EK00006411 Hard Disk Interno Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB 3.5" 7200rpm 32MB SATA2 HD103SJ 43,70 87,40 0,00%
EK00013828 Case Midi Cooler Master 690 II LITE ATX Pure Black 77,00 77,00 0,00%
EK00013950 Masterizzatore Interno Sony AD-5260S 24x DVD/CD SATA Bulk Nero 17,80 17,80 0,00%
EK00015302 CPU Intel Core i5-2500K 3.30GHz Socket 1155 95W con GPU Sandy Bridge Boxed BX80623I52500K 172,80 172,80 0,00%
EK00015529 VGA Gainward GeForce GTX 570 "Phantom" Core 750MHz Memory GDDR5 3800MHz 1280MB 2xDVI HDMI DisplayPort 282,20 282,20 0,00%
EK00017156 Scheda Madre Asrock P67 Extreme4 rev.B3 Socket 1155 Intel P67 DDR3 SATA3 USB3 ATX 117,50 117,50 0,00%
EK00017880 .RAM DDR3 G.Skill Sniper F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 1600MHz 8GB (2x4GB) CL9 1.25 Voltage 81,00 81,00 0,00%
TOTALE: 982,80
What do you think?
Main doubts:
- is it overkill? I do not have that much time to play unfortunately
- should I wait for Z68 and/or AMD Zambezi Bulldozer?
- could that build be ready for a quick SLI in the future?
- I never oc'ed and maybe I'll never do it, so it is worth it to buy some cheaper component and be happy with stock speed for life?
Thanks so much for your help, I really need it since I'm no expert (quite n00bish to be honest).
Ezahn said:HX750 750W 80Plus SLI-Ready
Samsung SpinPoint F3 1TB 3.5"
Cooler Master 690 II LITE ATX
Sony AD-5260S 24x Bulk
Intel Core i5-2500K Boxed
Gainward GeForce GTX 570 "Phantom" Core 750MHz Memory GDDR5 3800MHz 1280MB
Asrock P67 Extreme4
.RAM DDR3 G.Skill Sniper F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR2 1600MHz 8GB (2x4GB) CL9 1.25 V
TOTALE: 982,80
Thanks so much for your help, I really need it since I'm no expert (quite n00bish to be honest).
There we go, just made it a bit easier to read so peoples eyes don't have to bleed ;D
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Hey guys, so my new build is up and running and fantastic, however I am having an issue with horizontal tearing when playing games. It pretty much only happens when I vertically move the camera during gameplay. I've done a little research and it seems like it could be related to v_sync, however I also read the refresh rate clashes only when the framerate in a game is higher than the monitor's refresh rate. Since Crysis is having this issue and I'm only getting about 40 fps on very high settings, I don't think its that unless I'm understanding it wrong. Any ideas there? Its happening with all my games too; and I'm almost positive its not a performance/overheating issue.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Corky said:download d3doverrider
Sounds like you know whats up; will download when I get home from work. Thanks!
AllIsOneIsNone said:
I'll wager you'll be delightfully surprised.
Here's the Gaf thread which you can follow step by step and also read up on what causes tearing and general info about it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366413
TheExodu5 said:
Thanks to you and CrankyJay for the advice. It looks like I'm going to switch out for the Intel 320 series SSD since the 128GB C300 seems to have completely vanished from overclockers.co.uk.
A couple more quick questions:
Since I'll have a 128GB SSD it's feasible I can keep my Steam client and a couple of games on that drive. I'm vaguely aware of the process of dividing the Steam folder across multiple drives, but does anyone have any experience with this to tell me if there's a noticeable benefit? I imagine something like TF2 at its current client size would see a benefit?
I noticed the C300 is a SATA 6GB/s part whereas the Intel 320 series is a SATA-II part. I really doubt it does but does this have any affect on read/write speeds right now?
DarkChronic
Member
So what's the general consensus on how often to turn off a gaming PC? I've been turning it off before I go to bed each night - curious to see what others do. On/off after every use?
Ok, Gaf. I decided it is time to upgrade my video card. Should I crossfire my current video card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150501 or just buy a new one? My budget is around $200.
I like to set my PC power options to turn off the monitor after 5 minutes of inactivity and sleep after 20 minutes of inactivity. This gives me the option to save power and prolong the life of my proc and the rest of its components while resuming my window state as if windows never shut down.
Darkman M said:
Yes, unless you accept the risks for the added performance you get from the Vertex 3. I own a Vertex 3 240GB...but I don't think the performance differences are very visible in real world usage. As such, I think the Intel is the safer recommendation.
If you're still interested in the Vertex 3, I recommend you do a bit of research, and maybe read the Anandtech review.
The GTX 570 and 6970 are largely equivalent. Get the brand that you're more comfortable with.
Dosia said:
No rule. Just whatever risk you want to take on your CPU. I have heard 1.40+ is bad. Some are more conservative. The way I look at it is I will probably be upgrading my CPU in less than 2 years, anyway...so as long as it's not on fire it is fine.
Personally, I've been running my i5 2500k at 4.7 GHz (1.37v) since day one. Temps are great and stability is great. It all depends on how much you wanna tweak and how lucky you are with the CPU you received. 4.3 GHz may not sound sexy but that's still a helluva OC.
EDIT: for those who care, I finally landed on an ASUS DirectCUII 580 GTX and ordered it late last night. I will be selling my MSI Radeon 6950 2GB with unlocked shaders (ASUS BIOS) once I get settled in with the 580 GTX.
captmcblack
Member
Glorious Master Race, a question:
I have a rig in which the following parts are installed:
CPU - C2Q 6600 (G0 stepping) running @ 3.3GHz
RAM - 4GB PC-1066 DDR2 RAM
VGA - 512MB HIS ATi Radeon 4850
I am about to buy 4 more GB of RAM to max out the memory, but I'm thinking I'm gonna upgrade that video card too as it's 3 years old or so now. It seems that the bang-for-the-buck king in that $100 to $150 range is the Geforce GTX460 family...is that true? Would I see meaningful gains/DX11 support with that card, or should I just rock with that 4850 and DX10 until I update the entire rig?
I have a rig in which the following parts are installed:
CPU - C2Q 6600 (G0 stepping) running @ 3.3GHz
RAM - 4GB PC-1066 DDR2 RAM
VGA - 512MB HIS ATi Radeon 4850
I am about to buy 4 more GB of RAM to max out the memory, but I'm thinking I'm gonna upgrade that video card too as it's 3 years old or so now. It seems that the bang-for-the-buck king in that $100 to $150 range is the Geforce GTX460 family...is that true? Would I see meaningful gains/DX11 support with that card, or should I just rock with that 4850 and DX10 until I update the entire rig?
captmcblack said:
If you are in the habit of playing Day 1 PC releases, I would update the whole rig. You're going to want an i5 or higher really quick here. If you're primarily a WoW player who dabbles in other PC games from time to time, just get the GTX 460.
Don't waste your money on upgrading the RAM, whatever you do. 4 gig is plenty, unless you're doing other stuff with your rig.
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