Alt-F for Planetside show the FPS and what is currently bottle necking the game near the bottom left of your screen. And yes, those are good temps.
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Alt-F for Planetside show the FPS and what is currently bottle necking the game near the bottom left of your screen. And yes, those are good temps.
I wouldn't run that long. Run 10 minutes on Prime95, then 30 minutes with linpack with AVX (OCCT has this, but doesn't work with Windows 8).
Then you can do something overnight. Why? Because one may hit instability in minutes while the other runs hours.
Then you can do something overnight. Why? Because one may hit instability in minutes while the other runs hours.
in other news - the CM Storm Spawn a good deal for$20 after rebate? (30 before)? Or should I just save up for a Sensei Raw
Oh h cool I just passed the 10 minute mark with no errors at 4.5GHz. Awesome.
Oh h cool I just passed the 10 minute mark with no errors at 4.5GHz. Awesome.
SquiddyCracker
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It showed me 59FPS, dipping to 49FPS in certain scenes, and said GPU (though it might have said CPU, wasn't looking closely).
Is that on-par for a HD 7950?
I guess I'll wait with overclocking until I want to see more performance, a la console power unlocks mid-gen.
I guess motherboards do matter (when they work anyway). Z77 Sabertooth got Ivy to 4.6 GHz with 1.22V VCore without a single hick and the absolute max temp was 70C. I'm too tired to try any faster, probably doesn't matter. That or I won the CPU lottery hard.
Probably both. MOtherboards do make a big difference. The Sabertooth series has serious power regulation features. Allows further clocks. Really 4.5 out of an ITX... I can't complain about that. Could probably push it a bit further, but I leave my computer on 24/7 so no point. This'll be a massive upgrade from my Q6600 anyway 
Edit:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6202161
P8484
My previous score was P5870.
Edit:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/6202161
P8484
My previous score was P5870.
Windows for sure, I have a few games on my SSD but most of my Steam library sits on my previous 500GB drive.
Most ppl install the Operating system on the SSD (Windows), and have another regular HDD for games etc. You could also install some games on the SSD depending on storage space etc.
Both if you want. For sure Windows though.
Speedy Blue Dude
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So I got my new PC today, these are the specs:
Does this seem fine to you guys? I plan to upgrade to Windows 8 later, and maybe buy an SSD and definitely getting a new GPU, I plan to go with either an AMD 7950 or a Nvidia 670.
This isn't really for gaming, but I will game on it, I mostly bought this for Video and Photo editing, and After Effects (and for the hopefully real, Halo 3 Steam Port)
I also want to ask, are SSD's really worth it? I'm fine with a long/longer start up and loading times, do SSD's give any other benefits aside from that? If it makes editing better, I'll definitely get one.
And, is there any way to still get Windows 8 for cheap? I got Windows 8 for my laptop for $15 through some promotion, would love to get it for that again, or even for $40, anything but $100+
Does this seem fine to you guys? I plan to upgrade to Windows 8 later, and maybe buy an SSD and definitely getting a new GPU, I plan to go with either an AMD 7950 or a Nvidia 670.
This isn't really for gaming, but I will game on it, I mostly bought this for Video and Photo editing, and After Effects (and for the hopefully real, Halo 3 Steam Port)
I also want to ask, are SSD's really worth it? I'm fine with a long/longer start up and loading times, do SSD's give any other benefits aside from that? If it makes editing better, I'll definitely get one.
And, is there any way to still get Windows 8 for cheap? I got Windows 8 for my laptop for $15 through some promotion, would love to get it for that again, or even for $40, anything but $100+
rohlfinator
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It's mostly loading times, but that makes your PC feel faster in ways you wouldn't necessarily expect. Opening any program, opening/copying/moving files, multitasking, etc. My home PC feels a lot snappier than my work PC due to the SSD, even though the work PC has a pretty recent i5 in it.
RibbedHero
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I don't have any screws in my flat, they're all back in my parents' house. Is there any way I can attach my HDD to one of those HDD trays from Fractal without 6-32 screws? I don't feel like like trekking to my nearest PC shop on a Sunday to buy overpriced screws...
Trays look like this:
Trays look like this:
LowParry
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So I'm a bit confused on my setup when it comes to configuration. Just to give you a quick nitty gritty on my new rig,
CPU: 3750K
GPU: 7950 Boost
Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme 4
SDD
RAM: SSkill Sniper DD3 1866
Loaded up Crysis and the game runs extremely sluggish from the beginning. Even at the lowest settings. So there's something I'm missing and I needed help. I'm pretty sure I did an update with all my bios and everything is on the latest drivers. I'm not sure where to go from here.
CPU: 3750K
GPU: 7950 Boost
Mobo: ASRock Z77 Extreme 4
SDD
RAM: SSkill Sniper DD3 1866
Loaded up Crysis and the game runs extremely sluggish from the beginning. Even at the lowest settings. So there's something I'm missing and I needed help. I'm pretty sure I did an update with all my bios and everything is on the latest drivers. I'm not sure where to go from here.
I don't have any screws in my flat, they're all back in my parents' house. Is there any way I can attach my HDD to one of those HDD trays from Fractal without 6-32 screws? I don't feel like like trekking to my nearest PC shop on a Sunday to buy overpriced screws...
Trays look like this:
What size hard drive are we mounting here?
There's always tape, and you don't have to go to a PC shop for screws as there are hardware stores.
I would prefer that you mount hard drives with screws.
I welcome Haswell knocking it out of the park, but realistically I'm guessing 10-30% over Ivy. The real gains should be in the new GPUs coming out in Q3-Q4. 1.5 years will be a full Moore's law 2x, or so we can hope.
RibbedHero
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3.5" HDDs. Can't really mount them with tape like SSDs I guess.
rohlfinator
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I think you'd be fine with tape temporarily until you can pick up some screws. Just make sure they don't fall out or something.
Speedy Blue Dude
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Guys, I'm wondering, what's considered "hot"?
My CPU is at 60c right now, and my motherboard at 28c, playing Battlefield 3. Is that bad? Not sure what's considered bad.
My CPU is at 60c right now, and my motherboard at 28c, playing Battlefield 3. Is that bad? Not sure what's considered bad.
Guys, I'm wondering, what's considered "hot"?
My CPU is at 60c right now, and my motherboard at 28c, playing Battlefield 3. Is that bad? Not sure what's considered bad.
That's alright for load temps.
Speedy Blue Dude
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At what point should I be worried? I remember one time my Laptop got to 90c haha.
I'm also getting these temperatures from Speccy, is there anything better for getting temperature then Speccy?
Anything over 70 without overclocking is kind of suspect and if you are using the stock Intel cooler, you will be probably hit higher temperatures. I've been using CoreTemp for a while now.
Looks good, Planetside 2 is definitely CPU bound. My 670 is barely used while my i5-750 is struggling even when OC'ed to 3.7. I really need to change my MB and get a 3570k.
Guys, I'm wondering, what's considered "hot"?
My CPU is at 60c right now, and my motherboard at 28c, playing Battlefield 3. Is that bad? Not sure what's considered bad.
I generally aim for 70C max under stress tests, though 80C should be fine. 90C is dangerous.
Speedy Blue Dude
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I am using the stock Intel Cooler. Haven't bought one myself. Maybe I should. Any recommendation?
Guys, I'm wondering, what's considered "hot"?
My CPU is at 60c right now, and my motherboard at 28c, playing Battlefield 3. Is that bad? Not sure what's considered bad.
Tjmax (when they shut down automatically to prevent damage) is around 100C on most chips. You'll be fine, you can even remove the heatsink while the CPU is stressed and it will just shut down automatically.
K series CPU? If not then a different cooler is useless unless you find the stock cooler noisy. The CoolerMaster Hyper 212 is commonly recommended here for its low price.
Are you running in 1080p? Crysis might be running at 24Hz, can you check your screen refresh rate?
Anton668
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this reminds me of a article i real awhile back....
Why Moore's Law, not mobility, is killing the PC
For storage, nope.
"Even counting a modest boost for the new Sandy Bridge CPU, performance is increasing at just 10 percent per year for desktops"
Okay, that's just wrong. Sandy Bridge was a massive jump over westmere. It was Ivy that was a mere 10%, but that was expected. What wasn't expected is Haswell, but it's not due to Moore's Law ending. All of the new transistors are going into the integrated graphics. If Intel had high performance x86 CPU competition, we'd have 8 core desktops. If software was being pushed on desktops instead of mobile, we'd have a need for 8 core desktops.
I work in software, and it's depressing how many applications are still single core intensive. The worst offender is Xilinx, which is a suite to compile FPGA designs. It takes hours, and it uses 1 core basically to compile a design for a chip that's about parallelism.
And the irony is I'm reading an article designed for 600x800 or 1024x768 resolution while the lastest smartphones are 1080p and iPad is some higher resolution and it's talking about computing being good enough for general use.
But I'm not holding my breath for the new GPUs. I might even just go to console land for a year with PS4 and return for AMD 9000 series when we get a die shrink. I upgraded last time with 6000 series and I feel like I'm in the tick of GPU releases and want to align with tocks.
I realise that intel are investing in the gpu to make laptops etc good enough for gaming without needing a discrete GPU, and lack of competition means no need for more than 4-6 cores on the CPU, but would it kill them to have some variety? Those of us that use a separate GPU in our PCs are just wasting the IGP. Intel could have a gamer sku that cuts out the GPU and sells for less as a result, or allows them to give us 6-8 core CPUs at a premium price.
It was a good jump but I wouldn't call it massive across the board
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/191?vs=288
Slackbladder
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Yeah, I'll try that before anything else. I'll hook up to my monitor and see if that works.
Guys,
I need a nod from someone, that can tell me, if I have everything and what should I change - if I should change something or add something.
I want this PC to last me looong time, so that is why there are components that are there.
Is there room for OC with that 620W? Minimum gfx wattage is written as 600W.
Thanks
I need a nod from someone, that can tell me, if I have everything and what should I change - if I should change something or add something.
I want this PC to last me looong time, so that is why there are components that are there.
Is there room for OC with that 620W? Minimum gfx wattage is written as 600W.
Thanks
stanley1993
Neo Member
Does anyone know what might be the problem with my browser. Every time it loads a new page on another tab, it doesn't immediately load the page. What it does is show the image of the page from the previous tab when i switch to the new tab. I know that the page is loaded behind the page i am seeing but i cannot access until i switch to the old tab and switch back to the new. When the new tab loads and shows the page image of the previous tab, it is unresponsive. Just an image. I can not scroll or interact with anything on the page but when i switch tabs back and fourth to get to the new page, it is fixed. I do know that i have incredibar, which i can not completely remove, installed to my browser, but that is the only add-on i think would be able to affect my browser in such a way. I have been dealing with it for a while but it has gotten more annoying.
Im using google chrome most of the time. I did try re-installing it once to get rid of incredibar but it just came back.
Im using google chrome most of the time. I did try re-installing it once to get rid of incredibar but it just came back.
Guys,
I need a nod from someone, that can tell me, if I have everything and what should I change - if I should change something or add something.
I want this PC to last me looong time, so that is why there are components that are there.
Is there room for OC with that 620W? Minimum gfx wattage is written as 600W.
Thanks
Where are you buying from? That 620w is plenty of headroom for overclocking.
Pay more for a good PSU. You might want to go CF/SLI later on. I don't know why people always try to save money here. First, a good PSU can be reuse for many new builds. You can't say that for any other component. The added cost comes out to be little overtime. Secondly, PSU are most efficient and last longer running ~50% load. After 7+ years and many CF/SLI builds, my 1000W PSU is still going strong.
That is a good PSU.
He should still get a better in case he wants to CF/SLI later on. PSU are really the on component that can be "future proof".
minasodaboy
Member
1) BUY MORE RAM. 8gb is the absolute minimum for AE.
2) SSD's are something to be experienced. Definitely upgrade eventually.
3) Look at Nvida GPU's if you're using Creative Suite (better GPU acceleration on PC).
Yeah. That's brilliant. Save some money to spend more later on. The guy is already spending close to $1000, $50 more is going to break the bank. Did you miss the part about most efficient and last longer keeping PSU around 50% under load?
Doesn't make sense to me, but hah, do whatever they want.
CoachKevin
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Anyone have experience with the Lenovo y500? I am thinking of picking it up vs a 15" Macbook pro as I need to leave the desktop behind when I move to Tokyo in a few months. Mostly will be for video editing but some Steam gaming would be a plus.
Seems like it has gotten very good reviews and is a nice looking laptop.
Seems like it has gotten very good reviews and is a nice looking laptop.
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