electricpirate
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The deal on the Rosewill expired, so I'm jumping in on this one, thanks! I think it's only going to end up at 10 dollars more.
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The deal on the Rosewill expired, so I'm jumping in on this one, thanks! I think it's only going to end up at 10 dollars more.
GHG
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Go for the 3GB. To repeat myself from what I've said in a previous post on here:
Also, despite what a lot of people say on here, I'm not convinced 2GB VRAM will be enough over the years to come. I own 2 3GB 660's in SLI and frequently see my VRAM usage go well above 2GB on MSI afterburner when playing modded Crysis, Skyrim and GTA IV at 1080p. If you want to downsample in any game whether its modded or not, the 3GB will also definitely come in handy.
If they are in a similar price range, its a no brainer to be frank.
So, what was in the box!?
A twin frozr 660! Finally the wind tunnel in my living room will be tamed.
How are your temps? My 7950 twin frozr temps are garbage.
Idles at 45c and hits over 80c under load.
First off - use this RAM http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00592002W/?tag=neogaf0e-20 Overclocks like crazy and runs cool and small, will fit under any cooler (is smaller than the clips that hold it in)
Second - you can't multiplier overclock on that motherboard, meaning that you're wasting money by buying a K series chip. So either change your CPU to a non-K or change your motherboard to a Z77.
Go with an SSD now and get your larger drive later, which will be VERY SOON if you're doing video editing
No clue, I just got the card an hour ago and haven't gone home from work yet.
Also I'm going to finish up my 13.2 testing before installing this one, and man that'll be hard to resist doing for an evening!
mere_immortal
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Yeah it seems to be getting good reviews across the board too.
Think I'll stick with it just because of the better RMA support from EVGA in the UK, also if I change my mind anymore I think I'll end up with a brain hemorrhage. Roll on Thursday.
There was a dodgy batch of them that went out, Overclockers UK got them. They were doing free swaps or MSI was allowing you to reapply the thermal paste without invalidating your warranty.
Just sayin'
More than 2GB will be necessary some day, no question. When is what is up in the air. What also is up in the air is how that will affect performance.
What also seems clear is that these cards choke at higher resolution (like downsampling) because they don't have the power. With insane resolutions used to force as much memory usage as possible, the 4GB versions of the 660/670/680 don't really perform any better. That doesn't indicate that increased memory DOES NOT help, but it throws out the only other VRAM argument people use to justify more memory besides mods.
It seems like mods are the only place where VRAM usage should be a concern, at least for the time being.
Those temps are fine. 7900 cards run hot. What you should be concerned about is noise. If it is really quiet, then that is a good 80C. If it is loud and hitting that temp, then something is wrong.
I'm assuming GPUs don't generally have great resale values? I've already got the upgrade bug. I'm fairly impressed with my 660Ti, but I will probably upgrade within a year, heh. Guess I'll wait and see on the 7xx series. Another 6 series/79xx so soon doesn't seem to justify the cost so soon after this build.
Koroviev
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My TF 7850 idles at 26C and hits 56C under load. Some variation, but generally around there.
It does get really loud, actually. I'd say it's unbearable, but I always have my speakers turned up or a headset on.
As for the temps, I forgot to mention that I have the card stuffed into an Antec 300 and the thing barely fits in there. So I'd say that's one big reason why my temps are so bad.
Ivan A Nguyen
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My wife is having someone build a computer for me, but I feel kinda warry about their desire to go with SLI. Luckily the cards they wanted to use got discontinued so it's delayed, but should I go with SLI or just one beastly graphics card?
sorijealut
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Talking about GPU temps, my Sapphire 7950 runs extremely cool at 29C idle and ~50C+ on load (playing games like Deus Ex, Dota 2).
BUT I found out the fans make a churning sound, and tried to target it to eliminate it.
Turns out it only happens in the 30% fan speeds, so I made my card avoid that percentage altogether (with MSI afterburner)
I think it helped. Pretty proud of my first problem fix.
BUT I found out the fans make a churning sound, and tried to target it to eliminate it.
Turns out it only happens in the 30% fan speeds, so I made my card avoid that percentage altogether
(with MSI afterburner)I think it helped. Pretty proud of my first problem fix.
Interesting, I'll keep that in mind. Could end up softening the blow on an upgrade down the line.
On the flip-side, does anyone have experience buying used parts like this? Is there any way to verify you're not getting a dud?
When buying request to see it functioning in a computer. If the guy starts giving you the run around then no deal.
minasodaboy
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First off - use this RAM http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00592002W/?tag=neogaf0e-20 Overclocks like crazy and runs cool and small, will fit under any cooler (is smaller than the clips that hold it in)
Second - you can't multiplier overclock on that motherboard, meaning that you're wasting money by buying a K series chip. So either change your CPU to a non-K or change your motherboard to a Z77.
Go with an SSD now and get your larger drive later, which will be VERY SOON if you're doing video editing
Thanks! For me it is really Creative Suite, Adobe Lightroom 1st and Games 2nd. Would you recommend the AMD over then Intel then in a budget build?
mere_immortal
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Not sure if this is best somewhere else but as I'll be running an SSD it there a way to install Steam itself to it but have a choice of which drive to install games to?
Right now, any game running with the new CDN(Content Delivery Network, a new way to patch games), gives you a choice where to install the game.
It's still well within limits for heat, but you could always re-apply the thermal paste properly if you wanted to, but double check with MSI it won't invalidate your warranty where you are.
ss_lemonade
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Changed plans to wait until the middle of this year to build a rig, but this is one tempting deal. If I order this now, what are the chances of receiving a malfunctioning psu? Guess I'll have to borrow a computer to test it out
With Seasonic, highly unlikely. But there is a 7 year warranty.
Though it is not perfect to test slight odd issues, you could jump it with the paperclip method to see if it actually turns on. Just plug a fan into one of the other connectors as the internal fan will not turn on unless the PSU is under heavy load.
Though it is not perfect to test slight odd issues, you could jump it with the paperclip method to see if it actually turns on. Just plug a fan into one of the other connectors as the internal fan will not turn on unless the PSU is under heavy load.
Pagusas
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you can always jump it and test its at least not DOA.
Here: http://www.overclock.net/t/96712/ho...supply-psu-test-a-power-supply-and-components
I'll take it that these two items are useless to keep for my new PC?
Pagusas
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nothing wrong with keeping an old hard drive, especially a 1 terabyte drive. Could be good for system images/backups or a media drive.
only get SLI once the best single GPU card isn't enough
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ss_lemonade
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I see. Well, I placed the order already just to catch the deal. Thanks!
Did you find some?Or in my case, get 2 670's for the price of one 680
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Can you guys help me?
When I try to run Half Life 2 episode 1, it crashes at launch. The resolution gets all fucked before the crash, so I thought it was that my drivers aren't updated. I tried to use amds auto detect driver/update, and that failed (download failed 404).
When I try to run Half Life 2 episode 1, it crashes at launch. The resolution gets all fucked before the crash, so I thought it was that my drivers aren't updated. I tried to use amds auto detect driver/update, and that failed (download failed 404).
Calibrated Chaos
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Are these decent prices?
Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor 1 $189.99
SKU: 425470
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Universal CPU Cooler 1 $29.99
SKU: 303198
ASRock Z77 Pro4 LGA 1155 ATX Intel Motherboard 1 $69.99
SKU: 391573
Microcenter
Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155 Processor 1 $189.99
SKU: 425470
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Universal CPU Cooler 1 $29.99
SKU: 303198
ASRock Z77 Pro4 LGA 1155 ATX Intel Motherboard 1 $69.99
SKU: 391573
Microcenter
Koroviev
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Killer prices. Go, go, go!
sorijealut
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If I were to be anal with prices, my price for 3570k at MC was 169.99 in early january, and 212 Plus was $15 at newegg after rebates.
but still damn good prices at Microcenter.
SpanishExplorer
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Are those prices in-store only? I live near one and I NEED that motherboard. I can't find the ad though.
flipswitch
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What program would I need to show CPU/GPU usage on my screen so that I can monitor it when playing games?
RumblingRosco
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I have the Asus VE247H (maybe that's what you meant by VE24H?) and it has been just fine for me. Got it for around $150 I believe back in May 2011. My only complaint is with ghosting on any screen that is light grey or white. I found a setting with the menu options that fixes that issue, but it's sort of a hack if I remember correctly and doesn't save the settings each time you turn the monitor off, so I have just learned to live with it. I am overall happy with it for gaming or otherwise.
Kryptonite
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I recently upgraded my old non-gaming laptop with a new SSD and Windows 8 (up from a 5400 RPM hard drive and Windows Vista) ... OMG ... the difference is staggering. I still can't run many games, but it is soooo much faster for regular day to day use. I'm extremely happy that I upgraded my old laptop.
Now, I can probably hold off on upgrading my computer for a couple more years. I may upgrade from 3 GB to 4 GB of RAM now that I am using 64-bit, but I'm not sure it will make a big difference.
Now, I can probably hold off on upgrading my computer for a couple more years. I may upgrade from 3 GB to 4 GB of RAM now that I am using 64-bit, but I'm not sure it will make a big difference.
Depends on what you're doing with it. For gaming, you can build a killer rig for quite a bit less.
Mmm, it'll be mainly for gaming. Considering I'll probably use this PC I'm on now for work.
And when i say $2000, I mean in Australian dollars, so I'll probably get a shit PC for $2000 with the prices they have here in Australia. :/
HarryDemeanor
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I echo these words. It really depends on what you want to do with your PC.
That's not true at all, our prices aren't as good but they aren't shit, just need to find the right stores, I would recommend http://www.umart.com.au/ and http://www.pccasegear.com/
I built my brother an i5/660ti PC with accessories (KB/m, monitor, wireless card etc) for around 1200 a few weeks ago.
Again, I'm shit with PC stuff, so I'm guessing those specs are really good?
I'll definitely have a look at both those websites, thanks.
Those specs will handle the large majority of games at 1080p, the builds in the OP are good guides for what you should be buying at whatever price range you fit into so take a look at those.
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