For gaming 8GB is still fine, no need to buy more unless you need it.
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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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For gaming 8GB is still fine, no need to buy more unless you need it.
kittoo
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What? Why?
CornBurrito
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Ok so this is what I have planned out right now (basically just copying the build listed by mkenyon).
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M9jW
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M9jW/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M9jW/benchmarks/
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 74.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre Pro 148.7 CFM 200mm Fan x4
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit)
Not sure how everything would fit in the final case. I don't want stuff sticking out the back of the case like was mentioned.
Things I'll also need: Keyboard, speakers, monitor, and thermal paste. Any recommendations?
Do I actually need thermal paste?
Also might switch the i7 with an i5...
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M9jW
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M9jW/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/M9jW/benchmarks/
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 74.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 680 2GB Video Card
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case
Case Fan: BitFenix Spectre Pro 148.7 CFM 200mm Fan x4
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit)
Not sure how everything would fit in the final case. I don't want stuff sticking out the back of the case like was mentioned.
Things I'll also need: Keyboard, speakers, monitor, and thermal paste. Any recommendations?
Do I actually need thermal paste?
Also might switch the i7 with an i5...
No. There's paste on the block with the H60.
Whoops...didn't mean to put that H77 there...that's the first board I ended up not using. I have an ASRock Z77M LGA 1155.
I probably shouldn't even attempt to overclock. Feel like I'm in over my head at times with this anyway and coming from years of console gaming, I'm pretty happy with the performance.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
I am not planning to actually drown it or anything. I meant using a wet cloth or something. Still no good? I read at a few places that its fine as long as you let it dry completely.
It your really need to use a liquid use 99% isopropyl alcohol. Water is will leave residue and or could rust something. Unlikely but best to just use air and alcohol.
Solid build. Your cooler will come with paste. Unless you are doin multimedia work the i5 is a better choice. Power supply is fine. The sticking out is only for ones longer than 16cm.
Lots of good keyboard and mouse and monitor recommendations in the op
You don't need paste no.
What price is that Seasonic PSU? Try to get 2 RAM DIMMs if you can for dual channel, if the price difference is significant don't worry too much.
Yes it works, no its not the only thing you can use. There are branded products from most thermal paste companies to remove it as well
It helps clean it better.
At home I'll use the proper remover. At work I'll use a paper towel. Doesn't matter much.
CornBurrito
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Solid build. Your cooler will come with paste. Unless you are doin multimedia work the i5 is a better choice. Power supply is fine. The sticking out is only for ones longer than 16cm.
Lots of good keyboard and mouse and monitor recommendations in the op
What's actually the difference between an i7 and i5 for the CPU? I feel like I don't need an i7 but haven't a single clue how much/what it will effect.
I... what's dual channeling?
Can someone tell me the difference between these two ASUS monitors?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005BZNDS0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058UUR6E/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005BZNDS0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0058UUR6E/?tag=neogaf0e-20
If you're just gaming the i5 will suffice.
I'll let Crucial explain. They say 10% difference, it is usually a bit less iirc
http://www.crucial.com/kb/answer.aspx?qid=3751
CornBurrito
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1. Well I'll be web-browsing and gaming. So yeah I'll switch to an i5.
2. That's a bit over my head to be honest. I think I'll stick with not dual channeling. Computers are basically a black box for me. Admittedly I have next to zero understanding of what I'm doing. I'm just blindly following lists/suggestions and video building guides.
Two sticks is proper, its not any more complicated than one stick.
metalshade
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Thanks guys, 7950 is in without a hitch.
My tv is now displaying everything comfortably at 1200p, and framerates are great.
Unfortunately, at 1200p, comfy couch means sometimes things are too small to see clearly. I either need a bigger tv, or to sit about 1.5 feet closer.
My tv is now displaying everything comfortably at 1200p, and framerates are great.
Unfortunately, at 1200p, comfy couch means sometimes things are too small to see clearly. I either need a bigger tv, or to sit about 1.5 feet closer.
TV? 1200P? No TV is 1200P
CornBurrito
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I'm not even sure what part we're talking about to be honest. kharma mentioned the PSU, and googling DIMM I can't figure out how it relates to the PSU.
It doesnt relate to the PSU, all it means is two sticks of RAM vs one stick. So 2x4GB instead of 1x8GB for example.
CornBurrito
Member
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. The PSU comment threw me way off. Alright I'll do 2x4GB then instead of 1x8.
The Dutch Slayer
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1. Yeah an i5 3570K would probably suit well then, and then just overclock it.
2. If you've a Microcenter nearby you can get two sticks for less than the price of that single one http://www.microcenter.com/product/...l_Desktop_Memory_Kit_(Two_4GB_Memory_Modules)
Amazon has this but the shipping time is quite long http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0098WZV1Y/?tag=neogaf0e-20
NCIX has this http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffi...5600&vpn=KHX16C9B1RK2/8X&manufacture=Kingston
Basically two is better than one by a small bit.
That has them going up an average of 20-30$ over their Ivy counterparts. I can believe it.
I was wanting to also know the price of your PSU to see if I could get a better one for the same cash.
metalshade
Member
Oh.
My tv's manual says that it has a maximum of 1200p, and catalyst or whatever amd's program is called reports a maximum of 1200p, and it is set at that, and so are my games.
Am I missing something?
Ps. My tv also has specific pc settings, and VGA ports (although I'm using HDMI) etc. Its a 37 inch ALBA something or other.
Looks like it accepts a 1200p signal but it is only a 1080p screen. I would set it to 1920x1080
EDIT: this one? http://www.play.com/Electronics/Ele...h-Full-HD-Freeview-LCD-TV/ListingDetails.html
CornBurrito
Member
Thanks for the info. Shipping time is actually a non-issue for me since I plan on building this over the summer, or at the start of next semester. I've got a good couple of months to wait.
Price of the PSU is $75.98 @ Newegg according to PCpartpicker.
metalshade
Member
Oh, I didn't realise. Sorry, I must look like a right berk.
Yeah that looks like the one, we've had it for about 3 years now, its been a good investment I think, does us well.
I guess going down to 1080p would make things a bit bigger from a distance too?
Deaf Spacker
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Can anybody foresee any problems with this build? -
Case - Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl Chassis
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3, Intel X79 Chipset
CPU - Intel Core i7 3820, 3.6Ghz Quad Core + Hyperthreading, 10MB Cache
CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Hydro CPU Cooler
Overclock - 4.4Ghz
RAM - Corsair Memory Dominator Platinum 16GB DDR3 1866 MHz
CPU - 4GB EVGA GTX 680 Classified, 1111MHz GPU, 1536 Cores, 6008MHz GDDR5
System Drive - 2TB Seagate Barracuda, SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache
DVD Drive - Samsung SH-224BB - 24X DVD Writer
Wireless - Edimax EW-7622UMn 11n 300Mbps Wireless USB Adapter
OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
Case - Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl Chassis
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-X79-UD3, Intel X79 Chipset
CPU - Intel Core i7 3820, 3.6Ghz Quad Core + Hyperthreading, 10MB Cache
CPU Cooler - Corsair H100i Hydro CPU Cooler
Overclock - 4.4Ghz
RAM - Corsair Memory Dominator Platinum 16GB DDR3 1866 MHz
CPU - 4GB EVGA GTX 680 Classified, 1111MHz GPU, 1536 Cores, 6008MHz GDDR5
System Drive - 2TB Seagate Barracuda, SATA 6Gb/s, 7200rpm, 64MB Cache
DVD Drive - Samsung SH-224BB - 24X DVD Writer
Wireless - Edimax EW-7622UMn 11n 300Mbps Wireless USB Adapter
OS - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
I had been considering an i7 for the gaming PC I had posted on the page before (or two pages before). Is the i7 overkill? I'd rather spend a bit more now if it means the PC will be future proof just a bit longer.
Thanks for the info. Shipping time is actually a non-issue for me since I plan on building this over the summer, or at the start of next semester. I've got a good couple of months to wait.
Price of the PSU is $75.98 @ Newegg according to PCpartpicker.
Oh well then don't order now. Wait for the next generation of parts that release in June, and then just keep your parts list handy and keep an eye out for sales.
Lot of machine to not bother with an SSD...
Futureproofing is irrelevant. Get what you can get, and upgrade. If you want to upgrade later then spend more, if you want to upgrade sooner spend less. We don't know if things in the future are going to move onto taking advantage of hyperthreading or not. Just get what you can/want to now and don't worry about the future - because no matter what it is going to change.
Thanks for the info. Shipping time is actually a non-issue for me since I plan on building this over the summer, or at the start of next semester. I've got a good couple of months to wait.
Price of the PSU is $75.98 @ Newegg according to PCpartpicker.
Patriot stuff could be a good buy then, well priced for 8GB of 1866MHz RAM, although it doesn't look all that low profile now I look at it again :\ I'd look about RAM now, the price is trending up at present so could be worth sourcing some out, even if delivery is a bit off
Consider swapping your PSU to this 550w XFX. Still enough power for a single GPU and still Seasonic (it's internally the same unit as that one you've picked) made but $15 less http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004RJ8EKI/?tag=neogaf0e-20
kennah makes a good point I agree with, if you're not ordering until summer maybe hold off on most components as Intel is launching Haswell in June.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
I will be getting an SSD, just not yet.
If you don't mind my asking why the wait? It'd be easier to just get it from the off rather than having to move or reinstall Windows to it.
CornBurrito
Member
Yup. I was planning on waiting in case of any significant price drops/sales. I'll certainly be keeping an eye out.
I'll consider it. Thanks a bunch.
edit: Almost forgot
Do I need/should I get a soundcard?
Deaf Spacker
Memb
It won't be used for Windows and to be honest load times don't bother me.
Avoid anything that isn't ASUS with the 3820.
It's not just load times, it makes the entire computing experience much more snappy and responsive.
I guess I was confused by the Windows 7 at the bottom of your parts list
What're you going to be using it for?So, you don't want your computer being more snappy and responsive? Load times are only a minor reason. Seek times being ~0 is the big main reason. There's a reason why people using a SSD will never going back to just a HDD. It's the biggest upgrade in PCs for years. Any upgrade or new build should include one, even just 64GB for only the OS.
Deaf Spacker
Memb
I guess I was confused by the Windows 7 at the bottom of your parts list
Sorry, I meant when I get an SSD drive it won't be used for Windows, just games.
At the moment I can't justify it (I know it's ironic considering how much I'm spending).
Infinite Justice
Member
Depends on how much you value the sound experience.
If you just want to hear something decently the integrated ones on a Mobo are ok for that imo.
How about drop the 680 Classified to a standard 680? That right there gives you the extra money you need. Getting a case like the R4 and then going for a comparatively loud EVGA card seems inconsistent anyway.
CornBurrito
Member
I use crappy in ear headphones with my laptop currently, so sound quality isn't a huge issue.
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