In SLI/CF, the amount of VRAM is always equal to the smallest card. Never combine. Thus, in your case, it's 1GB.
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In SLI/CF, the amount of VRAM is always equal to the smallest card. Never combine. Thus, in your case, it's 1GB.
Still just one gig, doesn't behave as two gig.
TerryLee81
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Here is my current setup:
GTX Titan Superclock +80 core +100 mem
i7 950 @ 4.1
WESTERN DIGITAL VELOCI RAPTOR 300GB 10K RPM HD
Corsair 6GB RAM @ 1600
Getting around 8400 on Firestrike at the top end. Trying to go to 4.2 on the CPU is not working -- that thing is running way hot as is, might even go back to 4.0 if the performance doesn't suffer too much.
Is it safe to say at this point in terms of what I can do with the parts I have that the hard drive and RAM are holding back the performance? I just don't see much wiggle room in the CPU or GPU right now.
Damn it all now I just want a new PC.Patience....
It plays all the games you want at 60fps, doesn't it? What more do you need?
Looks nice!
Could you run something like Unigine Heaven or 3DMark on loop and see what your max GPU temp is?
Here is my current setup:
GTX Titan Superclock +80 core +100 mem
i7 950 @ 4.1
WESTERN DIGITAL VELOCI RAPTOR 300GB 10K RPM HD
Corsair 6GB RAM @ 1600
Getting around 8400 on Firestrike at the top end. Trying to go to 4.2 on the CPU is not working -- that thing is running way hot as is, might even go back to 4.0 if the performance doesn't suffer too much.
Is it safe to say at this point in terms of what I can do with the parts I have that the hard drive and RAM are holding back the performance? I just don't see much wiggle room in the CPU or GPU right now.
Damn it all now I just want a new PC.
Your CPU is still holding you back since the higher stable OC the better your scores.
When I play FC3 on Ultra it occasionally gets into the 40s and 50s (and this is 1680 x 1050 -- totally unacceptable). Have not tooled around with it too much with other games yet what lead me to even get into optimizing was FC3 being low 40s at points. Bleeeh.
Yeah I know, thanks. Don't think I can upgrade though since Harshwell is coming out so soon. Are there any CPUs you think would be a good idea to get just to swap into the mobo? This one is starting to run really hot, making me wonder if something's up in general (though I can get a stable 4.0 for sure).
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Would this all work together? I haven't put a PC together in about 6 years.
http://amzn.com/w/I860XGSPZW67
Anything that should be switched out/changed/etc?
Alternatively, anything that I can look for cheaper components of, and upgrade to better stuff in a year or two?
edit: what is the cheapest way to get Windows these days, anyway
http://amzn.com/w/I860XGSPZW67
Anything that should be switched out/changed/etc?
Alternatively, anything that I can look for cheaper components of, and upgrade to better stuff in a year or two?
edit: what is the cheapest way to get Windows these days, anyway
The FT03 has probably the best use of space I've ever seen in a case. Nothing is wasted, and there is no underutilized empty space.
The only gripe I have with it whenever I see one is that I feel like they made it three inches too tall in order to accommodate the cable-hiding mechanism.
A big thanks to you two. Bought the BeQuiet 530W. My PC is now quieter than my PS3. What a superb difference in sound.
(Meanwhile, Scan tested the mobo, cpu, and ram, replaced the cpu and sent it all back to me. Problem persists. I reckon it's the mobo at this point. Got a bit testy on the phone to them today)
chickdigger802
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oh yeah forgot to ask earlier... but why do ripjaws look like stuff you buy at the power ranger aisle at Target?
Sometimes I just hate pc gaming lol.
On a kinda off topic thing, but any good office chair recommendations, or are they all ymmv?
Sometimes I just hate pc gaming lol.
On a kinda off topic thing, but any good office chair recommendations, or are they all ymmv?
theSlacker
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I honestly like the normal ripjaw and ripjaw X look. Lower enough profile heat spreader that will fit under a d14. Think the Zs look terrible though. It's heat spreader looks almost as bad as the corsair ones.
Not that it matters much to me anyway, since I don't normally get cases with a window, and the bigger air cpu coolers cover them.
The parts looks good. If you live remotely close to a micro center, get the processor there. For, example, that i5 3570k fr $210 at Amazon is $189 at Microcenter.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388577/Core_i5_3570K_34GHz_LGA_1155_Processor
They also have deals on processor+motherboard combos that are good. If you buy that processor with this motherboard, you get the motherboard for $69.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388327/GA-Z77-DS3H_LGA_1155_Z77_ATX_Intel_Motherboard
That $90 off your costs right there.
If you can't buy at Microecenrer, try looking at NewEggs motherboard+CPU combos.
If you want to knock off even more, you could always get by with a 500gB hard drive and 4gb of RAM for now. You can always add another harddrive and more RAM later and as long as you don't leave a bunch of programs open while you game, 4GB is plenty. Do that and you are probably down another $50 or so without sacrificing hardly any performance.
Dave_6
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I love the 'pure function' look of my Samsung ram!
PoweredBySoy
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That's fine with me, because honestly, despite being sff this case has some of the best cable management I've seen, even compared to the mid-tower builds I've done.
Those do get hot when in use, so the tacky-looking finned heatspreader can help a bit, especially if you have a front case fan or a front CPU fan.
But it's just as much about aesthetics. I think both the manufacturers and enthusiasts like the parts to stand out from typical consumer grade components that have green PCBs and no absurd-looking heatsinks.
Ripjaws are still kind of tame compared to the Crucial Ballistix Tracers with flashing LEDS though.
I wish I lived in the States, right beside a microcenter...
turbosnail
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Just wanted to say THANK YOU to your troopers in this thread, without you guys I would be so clueless on how to build a new PC.
Been lurking for a while, feels good man. A question, (please answer in noob terms)
If i upgrade to an SSD, how does one begin to transfer files from my current HD to the SSD? Any help is appreciated.
Again, thanks a ton guys, so much help!
Been lurking for a while, feels good man. A question, (please answer in noob terms)
If i upgrade to an SSD, how does one begin to transfer files from my current HD to the SSD? Any help is appreciated.
Again, thanks a ton guys, so much help!
I believe you would clone the hdd to the ssd in your case. Something like acronis
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/#overview
personally though i just did a fresh install to my ssd.
Anton668
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well lets not go crazy now. they arent in the most family friendly areas.
although, the one in Chicago does have a tiger direct right down the road. so, thats convenient.
well lets not go crazy now. they arent in the most family friendly areas.
although, the one in Chicago does have a tiger direct right down the road. so, thats convenient.
I was going to go to the one in Chicago when I was driving past last year.
But then I got scared of going to Chicago.
Acronis is neat, but what's the best method for completely reinstalling Windows purchased as a digital download if you no longer have access to the files? Is it possible to restore to a new HDD using a repair disc?
(this isn't directed at Jakfu.)
Anton668
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meh, coming from a podunk lil town (pop less than 6000), I love Chitown. Thought its been said my driving style fits right in so... lol
Chicago, the city where if you can see daylight between 2 cars, somebody will try an park a HumVee there!
I'm Canadian. We pretty much just assume that everyone in Chicago, LA and Detroit will just get murdered eventually.
Anton668
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we think the same way in the US
That how I feel about Winterpeg
Glad you're pleased with the PSU, i hope the brand grows in popularity in time as they have a lot of very good products.
I know this isn't directed at me but what do you mean you don't have access to the files? You mean the actual os? You could just redownload it. You still have the key right? I believe pirating a key is illegal, not the actual OS ISO. If you still have a valid key then just download the iso
I'm thinking of selling my gtx 570 and getting a 680.
First, what do you think I should sell my 570 for? No packaging(the pc came prebuilt) and no manual or other stuff. It is an EVGA 1.280 GB.
Second, how should I ship it if I do sell it?
Third, should I get a 680 2gb or 4gb? What is the performance gap there?
Thank you for any help!
First, what do you think I should sell my 570 for? No packaging(the pc came prebuilt) and no manual or other stuff. It is an EVGA 1.280 GB.
Second, how should I ship it if I do sell it?
Third, should I get a 680 2gb or 4gb? What is the performance gap there?
Thank you for any help!
That's fair. There are parts of Winnipeg that the rest of Winnipeg feels that way
Man I want to move
Edit back on topic. 570s seem to go for 130-150 depending. You would be best shipping it in an antistat bag that has been put in a padded box.
OverBlood 3
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This is what I currently have and I want to keep it as is for a good while, but what's the next logical step for upgrading?
AMD FX 4100 (4x 3.60GHz)
8gb Ram
GTX 550 Ti
Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M LX
Power Supply - 500w Cooler Master Elite
I realise the graphics card isn't up to snuff but for now I'm okay without running things full resolution etc. Anyway any feedback would be welcome.
Also the next gen of consoles, what sort of PC would we be talking to be near enough the same as them? How much would they cost?
CHEERS!
AMD FX 4100 (4x 3.60GHz)
8gb Ram
GTX 550 Ti
Motherboard Asus M5A78L-M LX
Power Supply - 500w Cooler Master Elite
I realise the graphics card isn't up to snuff but for now I'm okay without running things full resolution etc. Anyway any feedback would be welcome.
Also the next gen of consoles, what sort of PC would we be talking to be near enough the same as them? How much would they cost?
CHEERS!
I mean i'd say graphics card but since i read your description, an ssd would be the next upgrade i'd consider
OverBlood 3
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Yeah I've been thinking about getting one and I will down the road. So with an SSD I just run the OS off it or what other benefits are there?
This is my first gaming PC so I'm new to everything I've had it a while now and I'd love to stay a PC gamer forever. It's a dream compared to owning a console.
Edit: Another question to anyone, I hear that with some motherboards some graphics cards will not work with them etc and sort of the same thing with the power supply? So what I'm actually asking is what I have capable of being upgraded for now, where will I run into problems in the future?
ideally, you'd want to get an ssd as your boot drive and use your current hdd for storage, things like music, movies, documents etc... With the ssd as your boot drive you will experience faster load times and faster boot times. A good size would be 120GB and up. I personally wouldn't bother with a 60GB at the price currently. I'd recommend a
Samsung 840 Pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147192
or a
Crucial M4
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=20-148-529&IsVirtualParent=1
for about $100 i'd recommend
Samsung 840
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147188
or
kingston SSD Vnow 300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820721107
That's fair. There are parts of Winnipeg that the rest of Winnipeg feels that way
Man I want to move
Edit back on topic. 570s seem to go for 130-150 depending. You would be best shipping it in an antistat bag that has been put in a padded box.
Hmm, 130-150 eh.. Well I guess that's not too bad. Hmm, maybe I should wait for the next set of cards.
Ah, no wonder I didn't find it. That option is grayed out for me on my Optical output. Here's a screenshot.
In theory I should get DTS in surround sound using this ASUS MB and SPDIF/Optical out. I'd really like to figure out how to do this or I'm afraid it's back to consoles if I want to play on my big TV in surround.
OverBlood 3
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Right okay, so run the OS off it and games leave everything else to my 1tb. Makes sense. Thanks!
One last thing, eventually you'll run out of space with all your games on the ssd so move the ones you don't play as often on the hdd and keep the one's you'll return to on the ssd. Use steam mover
http://www.traynier.com/software/steammover
OverBlood 3
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Cheers! That's really helpful.
Hypothetically speaking if I were to upgrade to a better graphics card, what would be a decent affordable route to go?
PoweredBySoy
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well lets not go crazy now. they arent in the most family friendly areas.
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St Louis Park is a great city. =P
It really depends on what you mean by affordable
OverBlood 3
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Okay maybe around £200 ($300)? Keeping in mind would I have to upgrade any part of my PC to use this card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121656.
I don't think you have to upgrade anything else. But im honestly not sure. Unless you want to wait for the next gen of cards which is apparently 6 monhts away?
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Or this,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125441. I'd ask others for suggestions as well. If you want to AMD you could go for the 7950
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202030.
Comes with two games as well
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I used to live down the street from the Chicago one. Spent a lot of time there just poking around. I'm only like an hour drive away now though, at least.well lets not go crazy now. they arent in the most family friendly areas.
although, the one in Chicago does have a tiger direct right down the road. so, thats convenient.
With some help from kind people at overclock.net here's my final* build:
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H-WB WIFI (guess I'll sell my wifi card too? got an extra one in a box somewhere, don't need 3 )
120GB Samsung 840 Series
DIMM DDR3 8GB 1866MHz Patriot Venom Red CL10, P38G180UR - unless I find better
Arctic Silver Céramique 2 Warmeleitpaste, 2.7g, - rethinking this
LGA775/1156/1366/AM2/AM3 Xigmatek Gaia SD1283, 120mm/PWM - good enough
PSU Seasonic M12II-750Bronze, 750W, 12cm fan, EPS/Active PFC/80 PLUS (SS-750AM) PROBABLY
amd 7970, probably asus, adding 2nd down the road and buying 120hz monitor, probably around christmas
stuff that I will reuse/not sell:
BenQ G2400WD Black 24" 5ms, 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Support
SAMSUNG Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Windows 98SE/ ME/ 2000/ XP - OEM floppy LOL but I figured I might need it some day, should probably disconnect it or something and keep it in a box biggrin.gif
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive x2 for storage
Asus XONAR DG soundcard
*still open to changes lol
Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H-WB WIFI (guess I'll sell my wifi card too? got an extra one in a box somewhere, don't need 3 )
120GB Samsung 840 Series
DIMM DDR3 8GB 1866MHz Patriot Venom Red CL10, P38G180UR - unless I find better
Arctic Silver Céramique 2 Warmeleitpaste, 2.7g, - rethinking this
LGA775/1156/1366/AM2/AM3 Xigmatek Gaia SD1283, 120mm/PWM - good enough
PSU Seasonic M12II-750Bronze, 750W, 12cm fan, EPS/Active PFC/80 PLUS (SS-750AM) PROBABLY
amd 7970, probably asus, adding 2nd down the road and buying 120hz monitor, probably around christmas
stuff that I will reuse/not sell:
BenQ G2400WD Black 24" 5ms, 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
ASUS 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model DRW-2014L1T LightScribe Support
SAMSUNG Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Windows 98SE/ ME/ 2000/ XP - OEM floppy LOL but I figured I might need it some day, should probably disconnect it or something and keep it in a box biggrin.gif
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive x2 for storage
Asus XONAR DG soundcard
*still open to changes lol
OverBlood 3
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I think I'll end up waiting it out and seeing what happens with the next gen of consoles and cards but I'll keep an eye out for that card see what sort of deals there are. Anyway I'll take my gaming PC ignorance elsewhere for now.
Thanks for the help!
theytookourjobz
Junior Member
I keep thinking about buying a new card but my 6870 still runs everything at 1080p and looks damn good doing it. Definitely has more legs than I thought it would when I built my rig a year ago. I wonder if we will see anything that pushes hardware before next gen rolls around. If I haven't bought a new card before this fall, it's gonna be a tough decision between that and a PS4/720.
I dont have it saved but I think the license key is displayed somewhere in PC info. I'll try that. Thanks.
Yeah, totally. I shouldn't have worried about it much with such an easy RMA, but you know the excitement of putting everything together and then wanting it to work. The MB will be here after tomorrow already.
Make sure that Samsung is a Pro and that RAM looks OOS/discontinued on newegg while it takes over a month to ship from Amazon. Kinda weird because the date on it in Amazon is not old.
Looks pretty great though either way.
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