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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 1. Haswell, Crysis 3, and secret fairy sauce. Read da OP
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Agreed. At first I was "WTF is this shit?!", but after a few more minutes of understanding it, I like it. Boots to Metro, click game or Steam, Profit.
I was wondering if anyone has bought the following case and if they have what their thoughts are on it.
I just this past weekend took my gaming/HTPC system and brought it into the living room. I hate having the case I currently having sit on the ground. I wanted to get this case to place it on my AV stand with all the rest of my components and seems to be a bit taller in height over my receiver.
COOLER MASTER HAF XB RC-902XB-KKN1 Black Steel body
Just to make sure you are aware, while that thing is shaped like a HTPC case, it is not a small from factor(itx/matx). It is still quite large, you can look at videos of it on youtube to see how large. If that doesn't bother you that is fine, just want to make sure you know that it is still quite sizeable and not gonna fit into any traditional entertainment center.
Burgess_101
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Guys I am in the market for a new card and have had enough of not being able to downsample easily on AMD and am coming home to Nvidia. I am selling my two 7870's and looking at buying a 4GB GTX 670 is it worth the extra money for the 2GB more VRAM?
I figured it would help at the higher resolutions I will be multi/supersampling from. Though when I am not doing anything like that I use a 2560x1440 monitor.
I am getting around £300 for my 7870's a normal GTX 670 is £250-£280 and the 4GB is £320 (I have a back up at ebuyer for £350 though). My budget is preferably £350 tops.
I will definitely be SLIing it in future but I am not sure when so for a while I will have only one card.
I figured it would help at the higher resolutions I will be multi/supersampling from. Though when I am not doing anything like that I use a 2560x1440 monitor.
I am getting around £300 for my 7870's a normal GTX 670 is £250-£280 and the 4GB is £320 (I have a back up at ebuyer for £350 though). My budget is preferably £350 tops.
I will definitely be SLIing it in future but I am not sure when so for a while I will have only one card.
memecomplex
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Hey Andy how much does it take to ship a CL case to the EU? I'd say don't discount it, I'm working on a Lian Li case for a friend and the all aluminum construction has made me a believer. It's so light and beautiful! My next case is going to be full aluminum for sure. If you're tri-SLI-ing with full WC, you should just go all the way ;-P
Thanks for the heads up DTKT and Andy.
There's nothing that indicates the extra memory on a 670 helps at higher resolutions. The card chokes before that extra memory is helpful due to limited bandwidth.
I think a better plan is to get a single 670, and then sell it when the new 7xx series is released with more memory and memory bandwidth. Seems like it's almost an inevitability with PS4 specs being what they are. I have reservations about the current class of cards being a good 2-3 year investment, but am basing that statement purely on speculation and zero hard data. It's just a gut feeling.
I think a better plan is to get a single 670, and then sell it when the new 7xx series is released with more memory and memory bandwidth. Seems like it's almost an inevitability with PS4 specs being what they are. I have reservations about the current class of cards being a good 2-3 year investment, but am basing that statement purely on speculation and zero hard data. It's just a gut feeling.
Burgess_101
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Don't want an AMD card not a fan of the CCC or being unable to multi/supersample.
Burgess_101
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Yes I know but you can not update your drivers so its pretty pointless.
memecomplex
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Switched to an Asrock Z77E-ITX in preparation for my Compact Splash Case.
Got my hands dirty with a manual overclock, got my 3770K up from 4.6Ghz (previously on auto overclock on the Maximus V Gene) to 4.7Ghz stable @1.368V. Chip seems willing to go to 4.8Ghz but I'll wait till I get my watercooling gear and possibly a hammer and vice delidding job before continuing. Dat heatwall.
Also bent some CPU socket pins and rebent them back, shorted out my CPU fan header and had to return a Lian Li case because of factory defect (can ya believe it?) and a malfunctioning Corsair H80i, been a real busy PC building and learning week! Feel like I've ranked up!
Got my hands dirty with a manual overclock, got my 3770K up from 4.6Ghz (previously on auto overclock on the Maximus V Gene) to 4.7Ghz stable @1.368V. Chip seems willing to go to 4.8Ghz but I'll wait till I get my watercooling gear and possibly a hammer and vice delidding job before continuing. Dat heatwall.
Also bent some CPU socket pins and rebent them back, shorted out my CPU fan header and had to return a Lian Li case because of factory defect (can ya believe it?) and a malfunctioning Corsair H80i, been a real busy PC building and learning week! Feel like I've ranked up!
CaptainZombie
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Thanks, yeah I saw some videos of it online last night and understand that this thing is quite the size. It seems to have some good reviews on several sites that I have looked at.
You can update your drivers, you just have to revert to those older drivers to set the custom resolutions.
It is kinda annoying though, and in my experience a res higher than 2720 x 1350 was not achievable. But that might just be my monitor's fault.
Splashbuddies! I'm thinking of selling my Asus P8Z77-I and getting the Gigabyte board instead so I can hackintosh easily.
Though I'm pretty sure my 2550K will do 5ghz stable under water with the Asus, since I could get it to post, boot and run windows at that speed on air (crashes under any load though). Decisions!
And this is all if I don't put the Splash on hold for a couple months because I need a new MacBook for work..
theSlacker
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Don't sell yourself short. The knowledge that the next gen is right around the corner, raising the lowest common denominator, is a pretty good factor for making that assumption. Though AMD really needs to step up their game to keep Nvidia and Intel from stagnating or being too big of jerks with pricing.
Calibrated Chaos
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What's the verdict on this puppy?
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=9579&seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=11307&cs_id=1130703&p_id=9579&seq=1&format=2
memecomplex
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Splashbuddies! I'm thinking of selling my Asus P8Z77-I and getting the Gigabyte board instead so I can hackintosh easily.
Though I'm pretty sure my 2550K will do 5ghz stable under water with the Asus, since I could get it to post, boot and run windows at that speed on air (crashes under any load though). Decisions!
And this is all if I don't put the Splash on hold for a couple months because I need a new MacBook for work..
Hey Splashbuds!
Get that Macbook for work now then sell it when you can hackintosh with the Splash? Interesting bit about using the Gigabyte board for that, never knew. Might explore that option one day!
I got a new PC and I find that my Western Digital VelociRaptor 600 Go 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s is really noisy. I kept my old 7 year-old HDD too and it's actually making less noise.
What worries me is that the noise isn't rotational, sound more like half second blurps that happen in a row, and then nothing for a while (more frequent when the HDD is working)
Anyone seen or heard anything about this? I just finished making the computer and putting the OS & drivers on it. I would be really pissed if the new HD dies on me.
What worries me is that the noise isn't rotational, sound more like half second blurps that happen in a row, and then nothing for a while (more frequent when the HDD is working)
Anyone seen or heard anything about this? I just finished making the computer and putting the OS & drivers on it. I would be really pissed if the new HD dies on me.
Hey Splashbuds!
Get that Macbook for work now then sell it when you can hackintosh with the Splash? Interesting bit about using the Gigabyte board for that, never knew. Might explore that option one day!
Technically you can with just about anything, but the Gigabyte boards - for some reason - don't require special drivers. They just work.
Vinegar Joe
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OK, so I ran the Bioshock Infinite benchmark (not overclocked) and it flicked to 975 for a split second at the start of the test. It then fluctuated between 501 and 925 for a bit before settling on 925. I ran the Tomb Raider benchmark on max settings and the same thing happened - it only hit 975 for a second in the middle of the test. The rest was 925 or 501. There are peaks and troughs, but it's mostly 925.
I wouldn't be so bothered about this 'turbo boost' nonsense if it wasn't seemingly the only way to overclock the thing! If it isn't faulty, it seems like a daft feature. Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
TimeToLiveCustoms insanely long 900D case review. I want to buy it and just sit it in my living room until the arrival of Maxwell.
Hawk269
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Quick Question....
I am going to be removing a Hard Drive from my system, Drive H and replacing it with a newer higher capacity Hard Drive. I already removed all the files from the drive and cleaned it out. Before removing it physically, do I have to do anything within Windows to remove it or can I just take it out and pop in the newer HDD and there wont be issues?
I am going to be removing a Hard Drive from my system, Drive H and replacing it with a newer higher capacity Hard Drive. I already removed all the files from the drive and cleaned it out. Before removing it physically, do I have to do anything within Windows to remove it or can I just take it out and pop in the newer HDD and there wont be issues?
Is it just a storage drive? If yes then it should be that easy.
Hawk269
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Yes, it is just for additional Storage. I have the OS on a SSD and just wanted a HDD to the mass storage since I might be doing some video stuff in the near future.
Fixed.
Corsairs website appears to be down, atm. =\
Was looking up their fans and the H60i
Should be able to just install and get at it.
Go to 'computer management', 'disk management', and get it active before windows will see it in my computer if it is a totally fresh drive.
Was looking up their fans and the H60i
Should be able to just install and get at it.
Go to 'computer management', 'disk management', and get it active before windows will see it in my computer if it is a totally fresh drive.
Didn't know Corsair made SFX PSUs
Hmm...can you run a test again and take a picture of the core clock graph and post it up?
Didn't know Corsair made SFX PSUs
lol.
Angry Fork
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What video cards under 300$ will be able to handle consumer Oculus Rift (whenever it comes out) to the best of it's ability, without lag, visual issues etc.? Do processors matter for Oculus or it's basically just the video card?
Vinegar Joe
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The Broken Ska Record
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I moved all my parts and stuff into my new case, and it's amazing. So damn quiet. My old case sounded like a jet engine. Not only that but installing drives was so easy.
Dave_6
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Ok I put the RAM in the correct slots, tried it and still wouldn't post. Took the GPU out, plugged the 6-pin into the mobo and then hooked it up to the TV via the mobo HDMI. Voila, it now boots! Got into the BIOS too and checked it out. I don't have the OS yet (will be here tomorrow) so I really can't do anything. Can I update the BIOS without Windows to see if that's why I'm having problems?
Terbinator
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Does a Titan fit in an FT09-Mini, does any body know?
Definitely not what I was expecting, as the boost cards tend to "throttle" between their two speeds. What resolution are you running?
Edit: I just noticed that you are not getting a core voltage reading...did you attempt to change the values? If so, click reset, then apply, and run the same test again. Before overclocking, I want to make sure we are starting at the default settings so we can tell if the card is working properly.
Irobot82
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Yeah most modern BIOS have a flash inside them or can download the new bios from inside the bios and install it. I don't think there is anything wrong with your PC at all, some mobo's just don't like to boot certain ways. Once you install windows, reconnect your card, download the driver, shut down, connect to your card, then you should be fine.
Looking for a motherboard for this build :
COOLER MASTER Storm Stryker SGC-5000W-KWN1 Black and White Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel ...
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR240GB 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM
SeaSonic M12II 650 SS-650AM 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Semi-modular Power ...
EVGA SuperClocked+ 03G-P4-3663-KR GeForce GTX 660 Ti 3GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
I want to spend no more that 170 tops, I am kind of overextending as it is.
I was looking at GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD4H LGA 1155 but have heard that there are better options for the money.
I will not be doing much if any overclocking right away.
Looking to not have to worry about much pc wise for a while.
COOLER MASTER Storm Stryker SGC-5000W-KWN1 Black and White Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Intel Core i7-3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I73770
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel ...
Mushkin Enhanced Chronos MKNSSDCR240GB 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM
SeaSonic M12II 650 SS-650AM 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Semi-modular Power ...
EVGA SuperClocked+ 03G-P4-3663-KR GeForce GTX 660 Ti 3GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
I want to spend no more that 170 tops, I am kind of overextending as it is.
I was looking at GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD4H LGA 1155 but have heard that there are better options for the money.
I will not be doing much if any overclocking right away.
Looking to not have to worry about much pc wise for a while.
You guys were saying that if you went with a closed loop water cool on Ivy bridge you'd go with H60 right?
I don't think I'm willing to delid the cpu, even though it reads like that's the best way to handle ivy's heat, but I might replace these sleeve bearing fans I have placed horizontal on top pretty soon and thought maybe I'll do the cooling swap while I'm at it. (was originally going to wait until new line of GPU was introduced and add cpu cooling then, but that could be a while.
I don't think I'm willing to delid the cpu, even though it reads like that's the best way to handle ivy's heat, but I might replace these sleeve bearing fans I have placed horizontal on top pretty soon and thought maybe I'll do the cooling swap while I'm at it. (was originally going to wait until new line of GPU was introduced and add cpu cooling then, but that could be a while.
Dave_6
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Ok I'll leave it alone for tonight and wait till the OS gets here tomorrow before messing with it any further. Then I will keep my fingers crossed tomorrow night.
Doubtful, too many different variations with GPU blocks.
theSlacker
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Hate to keep bringing this case up, but gets more more annoyed after waiting around for it. Just saw a corsair rep in another forum mention that them spending money to design and implement the new SSD cage was more important then other aspects people have been complaining about, like the top mesh. Kinda dumbfounded me since I didn't even realize people would care about a specialized SSD mounting cage, when you can just stick them anywhere, even hidden behind the motherboard. Am I wrong? Do people actually want a new mounting system for SSDs? At most I would think the way the bitfenix prodigy does it would be perfect. Little slots that you can just slip them in, but don't add any extra real cost.
Meh I must be wrong, and need to stop hoping for the case I want.
ok lets say for 200
Vinegar Joe
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I'm running at 1920 x 1080.
To be honest I've never had the core voltage available in Afterburner. Not sure why. Those are the default values though, I ran the tests on stock.
Get one of the enthusiast boards in the OP. The MSI MPower is quite good, or you could spend less and get an Asus P8Z77-LK which is still a solid board but a lot cheaper. The OP is there for a reason friend
Motherboard choice comes down to a lot of personal preference, I know I agonized over my current motherboard for a couple months before choosing (and I still want to change it).
Celcius
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You mean FT03-Mini? Looks like it would require modifying the case.
Get one of the enthusiast boards in the OP. The MSI MPower is quite good, or you could spend less and get an Asus P8Z77-LK which is still a solid board but a lot cheaper. The OP is there for a reason friend
I went for one from the op but realized almost too late that it was an ITx , I think the MSI is the winner.
Thanks!
Hero_of_the_Day
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Just acquired a free old computer. Not really sure what I'm going to do with it. Thought about turning it into a media center. It has:
Think that's powerful enough to handle HD files? Was thinking about going full on crazy and ripping ISOs of at least some of my favorite blu-rays. Wasn't sure it'd be able to handle it though. The ram seems so tiny, and sadly there's no empty slots for me to just throw in more. Thoughts?
EDIT: To be a little clearer, I was just going to have a windows install set to boot straight into XBMC.
- Q6600
- 2 Gigs DDR2
- Radeon 4770
Think that's powerful enough to handle HD files? Was thinking about going full on crazy and ripping ISOs of at least some of my favorite blu-rays. Wasn't sure it'd be able to handle it though. The ram seems so tiny, and sadly there's no empty slots for me to just throw in more. Thoughts?
EDIT: To be a little clearer, I was just going to have a windows install set to boot straight into XBMC.
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