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"I need a New PC!" 2013 Part 2. Haswell = #IntelnoTIM, but free online. READ THE OP.
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Depends on your definition of good. What do you currently have? Do you want modular or non-modular? what case do you have? are you thinking of Sli ever in the future?
Also - our recommendations for good power supplies are in the OP.
For one Titan, this will do you fine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088
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Unless you have an 8350.
For one Titan, this will do you fine: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151088
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Unless you have an 8350.
Are these also available in the EU ?
And i might as well post my specs again
i7 3770 quad core ( non overklock version .sadly )
Coolermaster case CHIEFTEC
power supply 550w
16 GB ram
HD 2tb
motherboard Asus P8Z77-V
GTX 660 2GB
Windows 7
I think ill manage
As I've mentioned here before, I have the H100i on a 4770k in a HAF XB. Although the temps are great (I haven't OC'd yet), I do find the pump and fans to be slightly louder than I would prefer (when on default/balanced modes). I haven't had an issue with the Corsair Link software luckily. Admittedly, the shape/open design of the case contributes to the fan noise and I knew what I was getting into with this type of cooling (and the 6 other fans). The quiet mode (iirc), does cut the noise significantly, and I would imagine this would be great for a HTPC. If you use it for gaming, just switch the fan profiles.
Edit: I have considered swapping the H100i fans for something quieter, but I think I'll just get used to the fan noise and enjoy the performance. One of the fans was making a clicking noise intermittently, but a quick blast of compressed air seemed to fix that.
Yea, I think it's the fan noise. I'll know more tomorrow when my PWM AF120s come, right now I have 3 pin AF120s on my radiator and they are blowing at 2,300RPM which of course will cause a ton of noise especially when passing through a radiator.
velociraptor
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What are the most powerful and most quietest case fans to get? I want a silent PC hopefully one where the GPU and CPU are still cool. I will probably rock a 2 intake and 1 exhaust setup. Fan size needs to be 120mm.
Need a price range, as well as your idea of quiet. What case will they be going into?
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
i7 3820 at stock. I'm hoping a nice 4.3-4.5Ghz can help out.
Try this out: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/144980/ps2_settings.png
And this for your UserOptions file:
velociraptor
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Fractal Design R3.
Not sure about price range. Depends on how good the fans are. I guess I can spend up to £50 on the three fans.
I just need something cool and quiet. My current case fans audible and they don't really move much air. So need a worthy upgrade.
Although it's pretty hot at 27C, my current temps are off the roof. GPU is 49C, CPU is 41C. I have the Noctua D14 cooler. 2500k @ stock. PC has never been this hot.
Please post some impressions when you get those fans installed.
I think Noctua fans were the consensus, iirc.
Future PhaZe
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The game must be badly optimized then
Those are really low temps. Idle?
If the Fractal fans are too noisy for you, you'll need to look at some ~1000 RPM options. You'll also want some decent pressure for the front fans as they're pretty restricted.
Cougar Vortex, Noctua NF-P12, Corsair SP Quiet, Arctic Cooling F12, Noiseblocker eLoops.
Those are all really really quiet, though you might want to use some in-line voltage regulators to spin them down even more, or get PWM versions to control with your motherboard.
Not poorly optimized, but multiplayer games in specific are really CPU hungry. Taking "state" information, as in, what's happening on the server, and transmitting that to client PCs is really complicated shit that no one has figured out yet. Add in a ton of players and a huge open world, and things get really nasty in no time.
Just about every MP game will give you a really nice boost in performance by increasing CPU frequency.
Yes. But get a good one.
velociraptor
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Those are idle temps. They are low? Thought they were high to be honest. When I look at reviews, idle temps are 38, load temps are 63. I get 48 and 74 respectively (6950 Twin Frozr III).
Others get the same CPU temps as me with the D14 but that's when their CPU is overclocked. So I had expected slightly better cooling I guess.
Alright guys, so this is the Rig I'll be building for my friend. It will be used for gaming for the next 3-4-5 years? [and for some work as well but that's no problem]
I've built over 4 rigs myself so I'm not completely cluless but it's my first time I'm building AND can post on GAF so would love to see your opinions and thoughts!
This it the RIG:
Intel Core i5 4670K + Gigabyte Z87-D3HP
G.Skill RIPJAWS-X 1600Mhz 8GB (4GBx2) CL9
Gigabyte GTX 770 4GB DDR5
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB SSD
Western Digital 1TB Blue 64MB SATA3
Seasonic M12II Modular 650W
SAMSUNG 24X DVD-RW SATA Box
NZXT 210 USB3.0 ATX Case Black
x2 Case Fans + 2.5" to 3.5" SSD HDD Converter
This would be bought from SE-Asia so in USD cost would be roughly USD$ 1500 (yeah no newegg or amazon here ): )
Debating the 770 or a 760 2GB. Nvidia only, so no AMD options. Not sure how long the 760 will last vs the 770. Main use will be The Old Republic, Battlefield 4, Crysis 3, whatever future games there may be (HOPEFULLY GTA V ON PC =D)
Any thoughts on the choice of GFX to go for?
I've built over 4 rigs myself so I'm not completely cluless but it's my first time I'm building AND can post on GAF so would love to see your opinions and thoughts!
This it the RIG:
Intel Core i5 4670K + Gigabyte Z87-D3HP
G.Skill RIPJAWS-X 1600Mhz 8GB (4GBx2) CL9
Gigabyte GTX 770 4GB DDR5
Samsung 840 PRO 128GB SSD
Western Digital 1TB Blue 64MB SATA3
Seasonic M12II Modular 650W
SAMSUNG 24X DVD-RW SATA Box
NZXT 210 USB3.0 ATX Case Black
x2 Case Fans + 2.5" to 3.5" SSD HDD Converter
This would be bought from SE-Asia so in USD cost would be roughly USD$ 1500 (yeah no newegg or amazon here ): )
Debating the 770 or a 760 2GB. Nvidia only, so no AMD options. Not sure how long the 760 will last vs the 770. Main use will be The Old Republic, Battlefield 4, Crysis 3, whatever future games there may be (HOPEFULLY GTA V ON PC =D)
Any thoughts on the choice of GFX to go for?
Go for the 770, or better yet, find a used 680.
Future PhaZe
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Any suggestions for what PSU I should go for for a 680 SLI setup?
With your ambient being 27C, you'll want to look at delta temperatures.
The Define does run a bit warmer than most other setups, but it doesn't really matter as long as it is quiet. Temps from the 70s on down is totally fine and within operating specs.
X760.
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If you don't want single braided cables from Corsair (the reason why I still buy their AX series), then this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207029
That's the least expensive Seasonic 750/760 right now.
Future PhaZe
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velociraptor
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It's a get whatever you find a better deal on. 550w will carry you through most systems. Power consumption has been going down not up.Is that a yes for the 550w or 650w?
No, it's just non-modular, which does suck. The unit itself is good though.
Gentle Typhoons are, but they're crazy expensive for what you get.
I think you'll want P12s though. I don't remember whether or not the R3 can use 140mm fans.
EDIT: never mind, I'm a numpty, Scan has them.
Different question then, is 650W really enough if I want to have an i7-4770, a GTX Titan, an SSD and a 4TB WD Black HDD?
EDIT 2: ack! Maximus VI Impact delayed till mid-August!
EDIT 3: so okay, what are the main differences between the Maximus VI Impact and the Z87I Pro? Looks like it's just the sound and the 802.11ac wireless?
Wait are GT's expensive in the US? Here they are pretty cheap compared to all the other "good" fans out there.
Yep. $20-25 a piece.
They also come without a sleeved cable, no in line voltage regulation adapters, no decoupling mechanisms (rubber inserts, washers, or even push pins), and with relatively cheap housing.
Their performance still can't be matched though.
Alright, thanks for the advice!
Future PhaZe
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Yes, just stick with a good brand. Seasonic, XFX and AX650
Edit: just saw you are getting the silverstone. It should be enough
Lol. I got a seasonic x750 in my build, not because I needed one but because it looked sexy.
Roland1979
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I will receive a R4 and i had the same demand: move a lot of air but as silent as possible. This will always be a balance, more powerful means more noise. But if course some score better then others. Noctua i do see recommended a lot. I got recommended and bought Scythe Gentle Typhoon (Google them) 120mm at 1450rpm (D1225C12B4AP-14).
If you need them to be even more silent you can buy a version with even lower rpm.
OK. And since the Maximus VI Impact is delayed, what's your opinion on the Z87I-PRO? What are the main differences between them, looks like just the sound and the wifi?
Since it's delayed, buy Ivy.
I have an H100i and set custom fan profiles so at idle and light loads the fans stay under 1200rpm and barely make any noise and only spin up seriously when the processor gets into the mid to high 50s. I'd play around with the software before I invested in new fans to see if you find something that works for you.
Regrettably I can't do that, Haswell processor is already on its way.
I'm new to this thread. I've been thinking about building my own machine for a while but money's been a little tight. Well, my co-worker currently has this machine for sale:
8 GB RAM
AMD Athlon II x4 640 CPU
500 GB HD (7200 RPM)
GeForce 8800 GT (512 MB)
He's asking $250, but I might can get him down to $200. Is it worth that much and is it upgradable? Could I use some of these parts, upgrade others and be good for a while? I'm not look for high performance. Just enough to play most, if not all games, at reasonable settings.
EDIT: I don't know the motherboard. I'll ask tomorrow.
8 GB RAM
AMD Athlon II x4 640 CPU
500 GB HD (7200 RPM)
GeForce 8800 GT (512 MB)
He's asking $250, but I might can get him down to $200. Is it worth that much and is it upgradable? Could I use some of these parts, upgrade others and be good for a while? I'm not look for high performance. Just enough to play most, if not all games, at reasonable settings.
EDIT: I don't know the motherboard. I'll ask tomorrow.
Sleeve them yourself!
outunderthestars
Banned
Really dumb question:
If the GTX 670 2GB's are old, why are they more expensive than the 760's?
(new at all of this)
Also, how does one choose between ATI and Nvidia? Are their big differences?
If the GTX 670 2GB's are old, why are they more expensive than the 760's?
(new at all of this)
Also, how does one choose between ATI and Nvidia? Are their big differences?
reposting JIC
The 670s give slightly superior performance than the 760s in most benchmarks.
The 670 is considered a higher model. The middle number show which level it is. 6x0. 660/670/680. Then 760/770/780.
The 670 performs slightly better than the 760 and so the price is higher. Even if it didn't the price wouldn't be lowered. They want you to buy the 770.
As for AMD vs Nvidia. Price is pretty much the deciding factor. The 760 is the best card you can get for $250. Then at $400 it is really close between the 770 and the 7970. Really nothing between the two. Comes to to personal preference and what you can find on a better deal
Nvidia has small benefits like Physx, lightboost on 144hz monitors, but for most they won't be deciding factors.
outunderthestars
Banned
That was incredibly well put together. In 30 seconds you just explained what two hours of trying to read product listings and what not could not.
Do you have a steam wishlist?
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