Ohhh that Asus looks nice. Me want. But the Phillips is about $150 cheaper at $649.
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"I Need a New PC!" 2014 Part 1. 1080p and 60FPS is so last-gen and your 2500K is fine
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:s The Asus one is awesome, if the TN panel holds up since apparently it's not your average TN panel. What I want is a 1080p VA/IPS Gsync, the Asus being 1440p gives me pause for media consumption, 1080p scaled to 1440p :I
PigSpeakers
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I finally changed fans on my main build. One is a coolermaster blue led 120mm and the other is a nzxt 140mm. I've had two broken fans on this case (nzxt source 210 elite, I think) since I got it. One broke while putting it together, the other came broken. I no longer have to stack things on my case to get it to stop vibrating violently. Recently, it started rattling, so i said no more and bought two new fans.
Eizo!
crap monkey
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I've never used more than one hard drive in a build before and I'm thinking of getting a cheap SSD for putting the OS on and nothing else. My question is, how do you designate the "main" HDD. I ask because I know some programs like Steam don't give you an option of where to install things. So how would I install Steam to my 1TB drive and not to the SSD?
Steam does give you an option of where to install things.
When you install a new program, you tell it where it gets to be installed. The option is always there outside of mandatory windows stuff.
Objectively Bad Opinion
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Yikes, 27-inch TN panel. My experience with big TN panels is very poor; the color at the top doesn't match the color at the bottom...
Can't judge these without seeing them though.
How much of this is based out of OCD, and how much of it is based out of being picky because that's what monitor folks like to pick at?
I don't mean to target you here, but there can't really be that many people that care this much when you're talking about a gaming panel. I can't even imagine how that'd be noticeable in a game.
If you're a graphics designer or do a lot of photoshop stuff for website creation or whatnot, that's one thing. But a gaming panel?
I'm sure the same could be said about me and blur, but blur really does affect graphic quality in games. A slightly different shade of a color doesn't, especially since colors are almost never uniform.
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I mostly regret my tone. I'm sorry in advance.
LMK how you like em
650 Ti BOOST is best value if you can find one. A used 460, 650 Ti Boost, or a new 750 To should hold you over.
Get someone to check your wiring.
I'm no electrician but nothing good is going on. The crackling noise...
I'd suggest resetting the main breaker but I think this problem goes deeper =/
Objectively Bad Opinion
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Mostly OCD if I'm being honest-- obviously the high refresh rate rules over better IQ in this case (and a lot of other cases too; reduced eye strain etc). But honestly at 800 dollars... we should have both.
Like I said though, not all TN panels are created equal, some are better than others. Can't really say this will be so extremely bad that it will be unbearable.
And TN-ness is most certainly noticeable, even while playing games.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Perspectives and all that.
To me, I'm never focused enough to tell if the water in Dota 2's river looks different on one side of the monitor than the other, or if the tan brick in a CS map is a different shade of tan. But if I move the camera quickly, and everything becomes a blurry mess, that rustles my jimmies pretty fierce.
To me, I'm never focused enough to tell if the water in Dota 2's river looks different on one side of the monitor than the other, or if the tan brick in a CS map is a different shade of tan. But if I move the camera quickly, and everything becomes a blurry mess, that rustles my jimmies pretty fierce.
Depends on the bundle in question really. But try to find ones with parts in the OP.
Objectively Bad Opinion
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Can't speak about sound quality yet as I've not had much time with them. Preliminary opinion though after about two hours listening to music, nothing stands out as annoying. They sound pretty good actually.
Comfort is good, the headband feels very light on the head. However, the cans put pressure just behind my jaw which feels... odd. They should loosen up a bit over time, so it should get better. I've had them on for two hours and don't feel any fatigue or pain which is fantastic. They came with a set of pleather earpads installed by default, which I took one look at and decided weren't going to touch my skin, ever. Instead, I swapped them for the velour set that was also included. These feel great. So no pain, ear fatigue, or sweaty earpads-- pretty much perfect for comfort. <---- this IMO is what I'd consider most important for gaming.
Build quality is questionable, as they're mostly plastic. However, they don't rattle or creak while they're on my head, which is good. There are no outright signs that they will break. These aren't headphones you will be carrying around as they're quite big so they shouldn't be exposed to any danger. The cable is removable, but the plug on the cans is male, not female. So that's not a point of failure. And they don't feel flimsy, just cheap.
Aesthetically they look quite good actually, but that doesn't matter as they're so big nobody will ever see you wearing them away from your desk.
The mic is horrible, it picks up sound from every direction, lol. God damn it's bad. I've tried turning it down but even then I'm pretty sure it'll pick up my jet engine R9 290 trying to fly away. And it's making me regret getting a Cherry MX Blue keyboard. I'll try muffling it with a small sticker later to see if it won't diminish the fainter sounds. There might be a point of equilibrium with regards to volume vs background noise and my voice, but mostly I think the issue is it doesn't have any foam. So I may be able to correct it with a simple mod. Key here may be speaking louder with a lower volume set in the sound settings, keyboard way too loud + close to mic to tune out I think. Overall I wouldn't buy the mic over again.
The headphones though are pretty damn good I'd say. These are the ones I have: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BWUHHYE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
This is the mic: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00029MTMQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
No gsync on the FS2333 though, that monitor sure is tempting though. Eizo plz
FG2421 is a VA panel, does 120Hz with a firmware based strobe that doesnt degrade quality, like the ULMB from G-Sync.
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TrueMenace
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Do I need to replace my GTX 480?
Alright, thanks!
Only you can say if it's not giving you the performance you want from it.
No variable refresh rate lolFG2421 is a VA panel, does 120Hz with a firmware based strobe that doesnt degrade quality, like the ULMB from G-Sync.
That's the thing I care most about out of gsync.
Neeeeed? No. Should? Yes. Unless you don't care that much about performance/graphics and just want to play the game
chickdigger802
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So 780 comes tomorrow. 3 monitor setup, which combination of cables is required for this to work? I recall having to do double mini dp and dvi to work on my ati card. For some reason hdmi wouldn't work.
Hey PC gaf, I am currently planning a new build for my brother & family. They want a decent PC but really the main uses are going to be web browsing, homework and stuff like that. Not much gaming but I will try to get him into more PC gaming
I've outlined the build below but need a little help with the blanks as its been about 2 years sinceI built my current PC. So I'm not sure which mobo, PSU and gfx card to go for. Not gonna be overclocking. It'll probably be used for light gaming, half life 2 etc. Any tips for what I need or any suggestion on the stuff I have selected so far? the total so far is around £490 and the budget is £600-700
Case: Corsair 200R £46 ebuyer
PSU:
Mobo:
CPU: Core i5 4440 £128 amazon
RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz £60 amazon, ebuyer
GPU:
HDD: Crucial M500 240GB £84 ebuyer
Optical: Samsung 24x Retail SATA DVD Writer £13 amazon
Wifi: TP-Link TL-WN822N £15 amazon, ebuyer
Keyboard, Mouse: Logitech MK270 £20 amazon
Monitor (includes speaker): Iiyama XU2390HS £125 ebuyer
I've outlined the build below but need a little help with the blanks as its been about 2 years sinceI built my current PC. So I'm not sure which mobo, PSU and gfx card to go for. Not gonna be overclocking. It'll probably be used for light gaming, half life 2 etc. Any tips for what I need or any suggestion on the stuff I have selected so far? the total so far is around £490 and the budget is £600-700
Case: Corsair 200R £46 ebuyer
PSU:
Mobo:
CPU: Core i5 4440 £128 amazon
RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz £60 amazon, ebuyer
GPU:
HDD: Crucial M500 240GB £84 ebuyer
Optical: Samsung 24x Retail SATA DVD Writer £13 amazon
Wifi: TP-Link TL-WN822N £15 amazon, ebuyer
Keyboard, Mouse: Logitech MK270 £20 amazon
Monitor (includes speaker): Iiyama XU2390HS £125 ebuyer
ThoseDeafMutes
Member
1080p G-sync monitors exist yet?
Yes and no. Yes they exist but its the modded ASUS one and its sold out or require buying a computer with it.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/3fSoA
What does everyone think. It seems it will come to around £450 maybe even £400 if I shop around well enough. Any reasonable cost cutting measures? I heard the Palit GTX 660 ain't good for some reason and the 750 is apparently weaker than it. Any changes or recommendations?
What does everyone think. It seems it will come to around £450 maybe even £400 if I shop around well enough. Any reasonable cost cutting measures? I heard the Palit GTX 660 ain't good for some reason and the 750 is apparently weaker than it. Any changes or recommendations?
OldAsUrSock
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Thanks, that makes more sense, but couldn't Nvidia and AMD implement a VRAM lock that blocks the adding of more data than what the lowest VRAM GPU has? So that would mean if you have a 1GB and a 2GB card, only 1GB of the 2GB will be used on the larger VRAM card.
Objectively Bad Opinion
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I thought they did this already
Well yes one it hits the cap of the VRAM it can't use anymore. So then it uses system RAM, which is far far slower. Games are obviously designed to run on their minimum requirements but you can push VRAM usage up past what you have through resolution, AA, texture modes, etc.
This is just PC life, if you want to push your VRAM usage past what you have nothing is going to stop you.
Okay I know this is moving into Electrician GAF but I found one bad power outlet. Had a burn mark on the outside and an exposed wire on the inside. Checked all the others on the affected fuse and none look burned on the outside.
Has anybody ever had electricity problems with more than one desktop in the same room?
Has anybody ever had electricity problems with more than one desktop in the same room?
Yes but usually the breaker trips not burn the outlet.
GTX 660 cheaper here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/GeForce-DirectCU-Graphics-DisplayPort-Surround/dp/B0098VKIRC/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1395711773&sr=1-2&keywords=gtx+660
And mATX board option
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00D6FEGF6/?tag=pcp0f-21
And an mATX chassis option
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cases/miniitxcases/FractalDesign/FD-CA-CORE-1000-USB3-BL.html?#utm_source=affiliatewindow&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=PCPartPicker
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The Everyman
for most modern games at 1080p? naw.
but for power efficiency and not using your PC as a heater...maybe
When I had my Titan I used two DVI cables and a displayport -> DVI adapter . This one here.
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The Everyman
fair enough.
Xisiqomelir
Member
re: IPS vs TN I am firmly on the (S)IPS camp. Motion blur doesn't bother me as much as color correctness and viewing angles.
How does this look?Hey PC gaf, I am currently planning a new build for my brother & family. They want a decent PC but really the main uses are going to be web browsing, homework and stuff like that. Not much gaming but I will try to get him into more PC gaming
I've outlined the build below but need a little help with the blanks as its been about 2 years sinceI built my current PC. So I'm not sure which mobo, PSU and gfx card to go for. Not gonna be overclocking. It'll probably be used for light gaming, half life 2 etc. Any tips for what I need or any suggestion on the stuff I have selected so far? the total so far is around £490 and the budget is £600-700
Case: Corsair 200R £46 ebuyer
PSU:
Mobo:
CPU: Core i5 4440 £128 amazon
RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz £60 amazon, ebuyer
GPU:
HDD: Crucial M500 240GB £84 ebuyer
Optical: Samsung 24x Retail SATA DVD Writer £13 amazon
Wifi: TP-Link TL-WN822N £15 amazon, ebuyer
Keyboard, Mouse: Logitech MK270 £20 amazon
Monitor (includes speaker): Iiyama XU2390HS £125 ebuyer
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor (£127.19 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus B85M-G Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£53.82 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£61.96 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£81.46 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card (£109.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£32.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£35.94 @ Scan.co.uk)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£11.72 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£16.00 @ Reddit)
Monitor: Iiyama ProLite XU2390HS-B1 23" LED IPS Monitor (£125.00 @ ebuyer.com)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN3800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (£19.98 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Combo MK270 Wireless Standard Keyboard w/Optical Mouse (£20.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £696.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-03-25 07:53 GMT+0000)
I've reduced the case down to the Cooler Master N200 (still an excellent case and a bit smaller), popped in a decent B85 mATX motherboard, good quality EVGA power supply, swapped the wireless adapter for one that fits inside the machine, included Windows and picked a suitable graphics card to go with it.
Mohonky
Member
So I'm at bit of a cross road. My PC is getting on a few years now and I get the occasional freeze etc despite recently reinstalling Win 8.1
Basically I don't know if it's worth upgrading right now, or whether there is some big leap about to hit on the CPU front.
Right now specs;
Intel Core i7 920
Gigabyte X38UDR (I think)
6gb DDR 1333mhz
nVidia GTX670
1tb Seagate HDD
Cooler Master 800watt psu
NZXT Phantom820
Anyway long story short, the CPU is going on quite a few years now, the ram along with it. I've also never gone with an SSD. The case and video card are fine for the moment but I'm wondering whether it's worth upgrading the CPU and ram at this point in time. With games taking advantage of next gen engines now and in the near future, will a CPU and ram upgrade net sizeable improvements in current games (Crysis 3 etc) or should just do a modest upgrade now and wait for the next best thing?
Basically I don't know if it's worth upgrading right now, or whether there is some big leap about to hit on the CPU front.
Right now specs;
Intel Core i7 920
Gigabyte X38UDR (I think)
6gb DDR 1333mhz
nVidia GTX670
1tb Seagate HDD
Cooler Master 800watt psu
NZXT Phantom820
Anyway long story short, the CPU is going on quite a few years now, the ram along with it. I've also never gone with an SSD. The case and video card are fine for the moment but I'm wondering whether it's worth upgrading the CPU and ram at this point in time. With games taking advantage of next gen engines now and in the near future, will a CPU and ram upgrade net sizeable improvements in current games (Crysis 3 etc) or should just do a modest upgrade now and wait for the next best thing?
Mohonky
Member
I did have it at 3.2hgz but it started getting a little unstable. Though maybe I should give all the fans a clean and give it another crack. it may not have been OC'd properly either as I am not very experienced in doing it.
Palom
Member
I finished building my PC this evening. I don't post much, but I lurk this thread often and appreciate all the advice given. Between this thread and the ease of putting something together through PCPartPicker, I had no problems.
Final specs:
Corsair 250D Mini ITX case
i5-4670k with H60 cooler
MSI Z87I AC motherboard
8GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance
EVGA GeForce GTX 760 (bought from Anustart here on GAF)
Corsair CX600M PSU
Crucial M500 120GB SSD
I'm upgrading from a Core 2 Duo E6700 OCed to 3.4GHz, 4GB DDR2-800, GTX 260 that was built in 2007 (GPU is from 2008). I spent more than I wanted, so I'm only reusing my old 320GB hard drive for storage, but I never came close to filling it up before. I was hoping to reuse my old DVD drive so I can read PS2 and Wii discs, but the drive is IDE and I have nothing to connect it to.
Speaking of connections, holy hell everything was bare-fucking-bones. All my motherboard came with were 2 SATA cables, WiFi antennae, and the backplate. PSU came with the bare minimum of cables. I had to jack a couple molex converters from my old PC to power the case fans since the motherboard only had connectors for 2 (both taken by the H60). There weren't even enough thumbscrews for the case (holes in four corners for drive bay and PSU cage; only came with three in each), so I pulled two off my old case....
Some pics, from my Nexus 4 potato:
First try, it fired right up. This thing is so quiet compared to my old computer. I'm looking forward to overclocking it. Once I'm able to spare some more money, I'll upgrade to a 1TB storage HDD, a Blu-ray drive so I can read my PS2 and Wii discs, and wireless HDMI so I can broadcast to my TV instead of running an HDMI cable across the room. Now I'm just bummed I missed out on the cheap Skyrim Legendary Edition deal last week.
In any case, I appreciate all the useful discussion in this thread. It helped me out a bunch. Thanks.
Final specs:
Corsair 250D Mini ITX case
i5-4670k with H60 cooler
MSI Z87I AC motherboard
8GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance
EVGA GeForce GTX 760 (bought from Anustart here on GAF)
Corsair CX600M PSU
Crucial M500 120GB SSD
I'm upgrading from a Core 2 Duo E6700 OCed to 3.4GHz, 4GB DDR2-800, GTX 260 that was built in 2007 (GPU is from 2008). I spent more than I wanted, so I'm only reusing my old 320GB hard drive for storage, but I never came close to filling it up before. I was hoping to reuse my old DVD drive so I can read PS2 and Wii discs, but the drive is IDE and I have nothing to connect it to.
Speaking of connections, holy hell everything was bare-fucking-bones. All my motherboard came with were 2 SATA cables, WiFi antennae, and the backplate. PSU came with the bare minimum of cables. I had to jack a couple molex converters from my old PC to power the case fans since the motherboard only had connectors for 2 (both taken by the H60). There weren't even enough thumbscrews for the case (holes in four corners for drive bay and PSU cage; only came with three in each), so I pulled two off my old case....
Some pics, from my Nexus 4 potato:
Stack of boxes
Empty case
Motherboard in, radiator in
CPU block installed
Top view
All components in. Just did a little cable management before closing it up.
The ceremonial peeling of plastic.
Installed in its new home next to the couch. I had to remove the drawer from the table to fit my old mid-ATX case.
First try, it fired right up. This thing is so quiet compared to my old computer. I'm looking forward to overclocking it. Once I'm able to spare some more money, I'll upgrade to a 1TB storage HDD, a Blu-ray drive so I can read my PS2 and Wii discs, and wireless HDMI so I can broadcast to my TV instead of running an HDMI cable across the room. Now I'm just bummed I missed out on the cheap Skyrim Legendary Edition deal last week.
In any case, I appreciate all the useful discussion in this thread. It helped me out a bunch. Thanks.
Yeah you should be able to get it up to around 3.6-4GHz for most chips.
jfoul
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